EPTTL Chess Match 6 - Page 60
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Ipsy12
Germany48 Posts
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KarlKaliente
United States434 Posts
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
44... Rd1 + Show Spoiler [Votes] + 44... Rd1 (4): chesshaha, Ipsy12, KarlKaliente, hp.Shell ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BRflboB.png) + Show Spoiler [gone inactive] + + Show Spoiler [gone active] + + Show Spoiler [unused time this move] + 0:00 White's turn. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
Poll: What should be done when a team has not voted by the deadline Take an extension for them. (2) Other (1) Forfeit 'em. (0) 3 total votes Your vote: What should be done when a team has not voted by the deadline (Vote): Forfeit 'em. Vote on what you think the rule ought to be in general, if you please, rather than on what you think would be the best outcome for this particular game. | ||
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KarlKaliente
United States434 Posts
I'd hate to see the game end this way, but I'd rather not check back every couple days for the next month either. Maybe give them one or two extensions? Or find some middle ground... | ||
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Zen5034
United States384 Posts
Pretty sure we're dead. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4758 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On April 11 2013 09:56 KarlKaliente wrote: Hmm, perhaps that's the best approach in general: limit the number of extensions that can be taken per move.Maybe give them one or two extensions? In any case, in this particular game, all three options ended up converging. After one day's extension, the White vote ended up split between resigning and playing on: same as last move, except that this time, the "Resign" vote got in first, so by the tie-breaking rule, it prevails. Final vote: 45. White resigns + Show Spoiler [Votes] + 45. Resign (1): Zen5034 45. Rb5 (1): Malinor + Show Spoiler [gone inactive] + + Show Spoiler [gone active] + + Show Spoiler [unused time this move] + -24:00 Black wins! Congratulations to the Black team and thanks to everyone for playing. Good game! | ||
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KarlKaliente
United States434 Posts
Also shoutout to both team members for keeping this alive for so long, and especially black for carrying team Karl :p I'll definitely sign up for the next one should anyone want to run it again. | ||
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
On April 12 2013 00:27 KarlKaliente wrote: Hey thanks qrs for seeing this through the 7+ months it took to finish this. Was a nice way to spend some time and I learned a lot of chess along the way. Also shoutout to both team members for keeping this alive for so long, and especially black for carrying team Karl :p I'll definitely sign up for the next one should anyone want to run it again. gg to all, till next time. | ||
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Zen5034
United States384 Posts
Would like to know where we went wrong, haha. | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
 On April 12 2013 04:43 Zen5034 wrote: OK, so I was curious about this too, so after the game, I reviewed it very quickly with an engine—just a few seconds per move, so the following is not deep analysis by any means, just a basic overview of a couple key points.Would like to know where we went wrong, haha. The game was closely matched for quite a while: with the edge going back and forth several times. White probably had his biggest advantage at move 36, right before capturing Black's a5 pawn. Here (36. Rxa5) White missed an important tactic when he allowed Black to round up the d-pawns. The a5 pawn is obviously not a crucial priority at this point in the game: it's hanging and Black has no way to save it. What's slightly less obvious is that White has the ability to save his d-pawns: at a quick glance it looks like there's no way to do that, as they are double-attacked, and there's no way to get a second defender to them, but the move immediately spotted by an engine is 36. Kc2! Once you actually look at the move instead of dismissing it out of hand, the tactical point is obvious: if Black captures with the Bishop, 37. KxR, of course, and if he captures with the Rook, White has 37. RxB, removing the guard of Black's Rook. In fact, after 36. Kc2, with the d-pawns off the table, and the Black Rook more or less trapped in enemy territory, Black's counterplay grinds to a halt, and White has a comfortable advantage. So, missing 36. Kc2 was one big mistake on White's part, allowing Black's counterplay to continue, but Team White was still doing fine overall, at that point. The mistake that permanently turned the advantage from Team White to Team Black was the decision that immediately followed—after the semi-forcing sequence 36...RxP+ 37. Ke2 RxP, White played 38. Re5: a move that doesn't do very much in particular. Here White woefully underestimated the strength of Black's counterplay with ...b3! advancing the pawn with tempo, and sealing the deal with ...Bc2. We all saw how that worked out in the game. Instead, the engine suggests that White could have kept a lid on things with 38. Rd2. Finally, even in the final position, Black did not necessarily have a winning advantage according to the engine—White could have kept fighting with Malinor's 45. Rb5—although it would certainly have been an uphill battle. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4758 Posts
Also I wanted to play 45. Rb5 two days before, but I wanted to wait if someone saw something better. Since now my vote came second and only therefore the resign vote took priority over mine makes me unhappy. It certainly looked very bleak, but I did not yet see a clear winning plan for black, so we should have kept fighting a little bit longer. Anyway, it was a nice experience and I have started to play some (a lot) of online chess lately (correspondence chess with 3-7 days to move - but of course you can move earlier). So if anyone is interested in playing, drop me a PM. FWIW, I am playing on a german site right now and am ranked ~1900ish, But I'm willing to migrate to an englisch speaking site to play with you Thanks again to everyone. | ||
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Tansu
Finland63 Posts
Thanks for qrs!! | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
gg all | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
Since people are interested in another game, I think I'll start a preliminary thread to gauge interest in TL Chess Match 7 (edit: thread is here), although I'm not sure whether I'd run it again. If anyone's interested in running it, by all means volunteer. | ||
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popzags
Poland604 Posts
 I was offline for couple weeks and someone followed with Re5 instead of Ra7; the Knight wasn't pinned, and it's activity decided the outcome. OK, too early to call it with a certainity, but I feel we could at least hold that ending by keeping that Rook active instead of just wander Ra5-e5-a5 for no reason. Anyway, gg guys, though I guess qrs could just call it a draw once the number of participants hit one digit. | ||
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