• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:09
CET 23:09
KST 07:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros9[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win52025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION2Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest5
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four DreamHack Open 2013 revealed RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Kirktown Chat Brawl #9 $50 8:30PM EST 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats Map pack for 3v3/4v4/FFA games BW General Discussion SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile The Perfect Game Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
more word salad -- pay no h…
Peanutsc
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1760 users

Final Fantasy XIV - Page 14

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 114 Next
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 08 2013 12:31 GMT
#261
Yeah I guess your right its just kind of the nature of the genre.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
buMf00d
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands194 Posts
July 08 2013 12:49 GMT
#262
Guess I'll have to give this game a more serious try. I played a bit in an earlier BETA and I liked it but only leveled until level 5 or something. Seems like this is the kind of game you have to play a lot of to really enjoy it. Anyone that could explain what makes this game so fun for them?
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 08 2013 15:13 GMT
#263
On July 08 2013 21:49 buMf00d wrote:
Guess I'll have to give this game a more serious try. I played a bit in an earlier BETA and I liked it but only leveled until level 5 or something. Seems like this is the kind of game you have to play a lot of to really enjoy it. Anyone that could explain what makes this game so fun for them?

probably same reason people play every other MMO. to feel badass running around killing stuff with a super strong dude/girl!
blabberrrrr
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 15:21:11
July 08 2013 15:18 GMT
#264
On July 08 2013 21:15 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 20:58 PassiveAce wrote:
There seems to be a lack of ways to make your character unique aside from the ability to level any class.

Isn't this true for all MMORPGs though? I can't really think of anything making you unique in WoW, Rift, GW2 etc...


The Transmog system in WoW lets you be a little more unique, I'd loooove to see a system like that pop up in ... well, every MMO, but FF14 for sure :D

e: Definitely agree that the combat could use some work, but overall the game seems like it'll be a good way to spend some time with my friends. Mostly just excited cause a bunch of my old FF11/WoW friends are coming to try it out :D
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 08 2013 15:26 GMT
#265
Did they keep the materia system from initial release? It's actually a really smart (if annoying) system, though it would be much better if implemented in D3 instead.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 17:38:16
July 08 2013 17:34 GMT
#266
Upcoming Beta Test Schedule: Jul. 10th 2:00 a.m. to Jul. 15th 2:00 a.m. (PDT) / Jul. 10th 9:00 to Jul. 15th 9:00 (GMT) (this is still phase 3 closed beta)

I still don't really know how the materia system in ffxiv works, at all. The instruction manual on beta site doesn't say much. Does anyone know a decent guide or anything that explains it? Basically how do you get the materia and affix it to your gear. You need to meld it or something? What kind of stats are on it etc. Would be appreciated.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 20:57:01
July 08 2013 18:02 GMT
#267
On July 09 2013 02:34 Tachion wrote:
Upcoming Beta Test Schedule: Jul. 10th 2:00 a.m. to Jul. 15th 2:00 a.m. (PDT) / Jul. 10th 9:00 to Jul. 15th 9:00 (GMT) (this is still phase 3 closed beta)

I still don't really know how the materia system in ffxiv works, at all. The instruction manual on beta site doesn't say much. Does anyone know a decent guide or anything that explains it? Basically how do you get the materia and affix it to your gear. You need to meld it or something? What kind of stats are on it etc. Would be appreciated.

This is long, but explained it pretty comprehensively for me.

Here's a long ass TLDR: as you use gear it gets spiritbonded. At 100% spiritbond you can convert gear into materia, provided you have the appropriate craft levelled. Materia conversion consumes the gear.

That materia can be affixed to gear by a crafter, with use of a catalyst. You get catalysts from the gathering classes.

You can affix more materia than there are slots on an item via 'advanced materia melding', but the attempt can fail (think 40% chance of success for your first advanced meld, 20% second etc.). Failure consumes the materia & catalyst.

Finally, there are item level-based stat caps. I presume this encourages you to diversify your items stats, rather than stacking +crit materia on an item with innate +crit, for example, as well as limiting equipment power/materia stacking.

The lodestone has some info on how the system changed from 1.0, as well as all the materia currently in for launch.

I probably missed stuff, so feel free to correct me anyone.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 08 2013 20:32 GMT
#268
On July 09 2013 03:02 Jehct wrote:
You can affix more materia than there are slots on an item via 'advanced materia melding', but the attempt can fail (think 40% chance of success for your first advanced meld, 20% second etc.). Failure consumes the materia & catalyst.


So the item itself doesn't blow up now? In 1.1 if you fail you lose everything, including original item and materia on it, also the odds were significantly lower, 2nd materia only had success rate of 10-20%, making anything beyond 2 materia extremely rare and expensive (like only a handful of people in each server has them).
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 21:17:51
July 08 2013 20:55 GMT
#269
On July 09 2013 05:32 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 03:02 Jehct wrote:
You can affix more materia than there are slots on an item via 'advanced materia melding', but the attempt can fail (think 40% chance of success for your first advanced meld, 20% second etc.). Failure consumes the materia & catalyst.


So the item itself doesn't blow up now? In 1.1 if you fail you lose everything, including original item and materia on it, also the odds were significantly lower, 2nd materia only had success rate of 10-20%, making anything beyond 2 materia extremely rare and expensive (like only a handful of people in each server has them).

Nope, that silly systems gone. As I said, the lodestone has all the changes here, including that, the 'max values' stuff, how 1.0 materia/equipment transitions and so on.

The stat cap comes across as a much better limiter for the materia system to me. Then again, I lost interest in 1.0 after really briefly trying its beta, so I don't know much about how it's systems actually played out.

As for the odds, that was just based on some lower level beta screens, so it might be different at max level with high rank materia
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 21:02:22
July 08 2013 21:02 GMT
#270
Kinda sad that it doesn't blow up the whole item. The adrenaline rush was the main reason I would do it. Also made godly items more rare.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
July 08 2013 21:05 GMT
#271
Old Material system was quite dumb. Getting like say a +60 stat (material x3) item was ridiculous. You had to craft tons of weapon/armor and spiritbond farm a majority of the time. Though if you had an efficient party like ours, you could clear out camps in no time with a bunch of Marauders and complete whole sets quickly.
Liquipedia
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 21:56:48
July 08 2013 21:53 GMT
#272
On July 09 2013 05:55 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 05:32 ragz_gt wrote:
On July 09 2013 03:02 Jehct wrote:
You can affix more materia than there are slots on an item via 'advanced materia melding', but the attempt can fail (think 40% chance of success for your first advanced meld, 20% second etc.). Failure consumes the materia & catalyst.


So the item itself doesn't blow up now? In 1.1 if you fail you lose everything, including original item and materia on it, also the odds were significantly lower, 2nd materia only had success rate of 10-20%, making anything beyond 2 materia extremely rare and expensive (like only a handful of people in each server has them).

Nope, that silly systems gone. As I said, the lodestone has all the changes here, including that, the 'max values' stuff, how 1.0 materia/equipment transitions and so on.

The stat cap comes across as a much better limiter for the materia system to me. Then again, I lost interest in 1.0 after really briefly trying its beta, so I don't know much about how it's systems actually played out.

As for the odds, that was just based on some lower level beta screens, so it might be different at max level with high rank materia


While it was pretty rage inducing it also kept crafting profitable. Even with everyone max craft can still make a decent profit make stuff, which can't be said for other MMOs. I wonder what will be the new way to keep market stable.

On July 09 2013 06:05 blahz0r wrote:
Old Material system was quite dumb. Getting like say a +60 stat (material x3) item was ridiculous. You had to craft tons of weapon/armor and spiritbond farm a majority of the time. Though if you had an efficient party like ours, you could clear out camps in no time with a bunch of Marauders and complete whole sets quickly.


Before they nerfed steel cyclone you can get lvl 40-50 in an hr lol

Though the best place to materia is the ant boss at Cutter's Cry, hold princess/marshal and let them heal up and kill pops, can get 10 full set per run.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 09 2013 18:23 GMT
#273
Are there any (semi)popular unofficial ffxiv forums? As always, the official forums are a cesspool of...idk, bad things. I guess reddit is probably the best alternative?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 18:33:07
July 09 2013 18:32 GMT
#274
Order of the Blue Gartr is sorta like TL of FFXIV
More general ones are ZAM and ffxivrealm
Old school might want check out KillingIfrit
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 09 2013 19:08 GMT
#275
On July 10 2013 03:32 ragz_gt wrote:
Order of the Blue Gartr is sorta like TL of FFXIV
More general ones are ZAM and ffxivrealm
Old school might want check out KillingIfrit

I've been on blue gartr since 2006 but their ffxiv forums are just a fraction as popular as the ffxi ones. It's mostly just forum regulars arguing amongst each other over silly shit. was just there this morning before I posted that question ;p Killing ifrit ff11 forums died a long time ago, doesn't look like 14 is doing much better judging by post dates.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 09 2013 19:17 GMT
#276
English FFXIV forum are all in a sorry state due to state of initial release and comparatively better official forum. Most of the meaningful communication was done within LS anyway.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
July 09 2013 19:29 GMT
#277
Ah man I haven't heard of BG in a long time. I used to prowl their forums back in like... '05? '06 maybe? I was a level 30 WHM with an underleveled subjob trying to unlock BRD. Some guy told me about their site, and how much of an awesome resource it was.

On topic though. FFXIV is good. Many times better than 1.0. However, I'm finding questing to be a bit of a pain. I pick up quests, and then have a hard time finding out where they actually are. I think it's because I opted to play the beta on my PS3, and navigating the UI on the PS3 is like pulling teeth sometimes. I really should just play it on my computer I guess. So much for relaxing on my couch and playing.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 09 2013 23:14 GMT
#278
For those deciding on a server for release here's an interesting pic of server distribution in p3 beta taken from June 30th.

[image loading]

It's surprisingly even in regards to non-legacy NA servers, though some seem to favor greater populations of EU/JP than others. I'm leading towards Gilgamesh myself since higher population servers tend to have more people around to do events with and more balanced economies.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 10 2013 00:07 GMT
#279
We are looking for some new blood in Balmung, for people who are going to play dedicated end game content (new / migrated welcome), mostly NA night time.

My YT channel has some stuff we did in initial release at http://www.youtube.com/user/ragzGT
Or can PM me for more info if interested.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 10 2013 03:15 GMT
#280
got my key today updating the game now
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 114 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
19:00
Open Quali #3
LiquipediaDiscussion
SC4ALL
14:00
SC4ALL - Day 1
Artosis684
RotterdaM683
ComeBackTV 531
IndyStarCraft 227
SteadfastSC166
CranKy Ducklings140
PiGStarcraft2
LiquipediaDiscussion
Epic.LAN
12:00
Epic.LAN 46 Playoffs Stage
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Artosis 684
RotterdaM 683
IndyStarCraft 227
SteadfastSC 166
ProTech90
CosmosSc2 77
PiGStarcraft2
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 108
NaDa 30
Terrorterran 27
Dota 2
LuMiX2
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1565
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu402
Khaldor188
Other Games
FrodaN4067
Grubby3687
Pyrionflax247
KnowMe226
Skadoodle78
Mew2King42
nookyyy 36
Dewaltoss19
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1797
StarCraft 2
angryscii 30
Other Games
BasetradeTV13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 31
• musti20045 15
• HeavenSC 6
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki45
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2933
• Ler57
League of Legends
• Doublelift3814
Other Games
• imaqtpie1360
• Scarra597
• WagamamaTV375
• Shiphtur131
Upcoming Events
BSL Team A[vengers]
15h 51m
Cross vs Sobenz
Sziky vs IcaruS
SC4ALL
16h 51m
SC4ALL
16h 51m
BSL 21
20h 51m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Wardi Open
1d 13h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
IPSL
6 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
SC4ALL: Brood War
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.