EPTSo far undefeteated at the tournament Topalov is going to be the new world champion!!!
Topalov[Chess] Topalov World Champion
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
So far undefeteated at the tournament Topalov is going to be the new world champion!!! Topalov | ||
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brite
United Kingdom253 Posts
is there somewhere where you can see the games?? i mean the moves | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7230 Posts
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sdpgposd
United Kingdom1464 Posts
You should check it out, its really good  | ||
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NeverEndingStory
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Soun
Poland373 Posts
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NeverEndingStory
446 Posts
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
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lightman
United States731 Posts
On October 14 2005 01:45 NeverEndingStory wrote: Personally I'd like to see Kasparov,Karpov or even Fischer at the 1st place...since there are not competing maybe Anand will make it,I prefer his style of the game,anyway congratulations Topalov for making it that far and having advantage. but dude, Fischer is in jail and Kasparov is running to become president. Not aware of Karpov's status....... | ||
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Soun
Poland373 Posts
On October 14 2005 04:44 lightman wrote: but dude, Fischer is in jail and Kasparov is running to become president. Not aware of Karpov's status....... Fisher got asylum in Iceland, he's not in jail. Karpov is right now trying to be the FIDE president, and it seems Ilyuminov is a bit afraid of him. He's bashing Karpov every time he can. He played the spanish teams championship last month and at a very low level. And personally, I think Kasparov will play his last match vs Topalov on the old way, candidate vs champion, to finally retire from chess being the world champion. The one I missed in San Luis was Kortchnoi. He wouldn't have won, but he's the oldest and stronger old-schooler right now. I could see him in Igualada, and he stills enjoys playing chess. | ||
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0x64
Finland4601 Posts
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
On October 14 2005 03:48 Beast_Bg wrote: Funny thing is that Bulgaria now has both the WC for men and women. Doubtful, since Topalov is not really the "world champion", Kramnik still has the classical chess World Champion title, and that title is a lot more important, hopefully they will play for unification this time tho. | ||
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NeverEndingStory
446 Posts
Yeah I agree with you that title in classical chess is more important,I hoped Anand will overtake Topalov though. edit: Is this true Karpov and Kasparov are trying to give up chess soon?I have heard that they are not doing well lately.. | ||
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TheBlackJack
57 Posts
I'm disappointed that Topalov was content with drawing his last eight matches to secure the win. He gave one of the greatest performaces in chess history for the first half of the tournament. He could have really left his mark, passing 2800 and maybe even Kasparov. He's not getting any younger and there are few Korchnoi out there. NeverEndingStory, I think Kramnik didn't compete in San Luis because he would have been defending his title against eight people at once. Not to sure about that. Bring on Hydra? | ||
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SurG
Russian Federation798 Posts
It'd great to see FIDE getting a somewhat legitimate title holder. Let's hope that they can manage to organize a championship cycle now. The best thing would be a legitimate cycle and Kramnik loosing match to Topalov. But I would still take a top-form Kramnik over Topalov in a match. The question is will Kramnik ever reach his top form again - he's been playing like shit lately. | ||
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Tiger-
Mexico190 Posts
On October 14 2005 00:55 brite wrote: nice is there somewhere where you can see the games?? i mean the moves http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?tid=47798&crosstable=1 | ||
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yare
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goldrush
Canada709 Posts
However, the way that FIDE did this was fair. They took the average ELO of the contestants over a certain period of time and the top players were invited. Kramnik didn't want to play, so he didn't. passing 2800 He passed 2800 with this tournament. Kramnik, Ivanchuk, Aronian and Bacrot or Grischuk. Ivanchuk is great when he's on form, but when he isn't... Witness the -1 score at Karabakh recently, including a loss on time (!) with a 30 second increment in a simple bishop and pawn endgame. Kramnik, I believe, was invited, but declined. Bring on Hydra? Doubt it. Hydra would rape him, though probably not as bad as Adams. Topalov missed two easy wins against Anand and Morozevich, and playing that way against Hydra is a sure way to lose. But I would still take a top-form Kramnik over Topalov in a match. As you said, the question is if Kramnik will ever be good enough to really compete seriously as the best player in the world. He's lost points in damn near every single tournament he's played in. He's in danger slipping out of the top 10 in the world if he doesn't pick up his game. The sad part? He probably won't agree to a title match for some time, as he recently had that match against Leko. And until Kramnik loses the title, he is still the person who 'beat the man who beat the man who beat Steinitz'. (Well, except for Fischer/Alekhine). | ||
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SurG
Russian Federation798 Posts
As far as Ivanchuk goes, he has some slips once in a while, because he can be very moody. However, He has been very consistent lately for the most part, perfoming well in a lot of tourneys. YHis rating has been climbing, which is even more impressive since he mostly plays in opens nowadays, where even a draw can drop high-rated player like him down in ELO. Kramnik is good enough to compete seriously for a top player title in the world. In fact, I still think Kramnik is a top active player in the world as far as match abilities go. Due to his style, Anand and Topalov will probably always have some edge on him as far as tournament play goes, but in matches he is the man to beat. Leko couldn't win a sick Kramnik in the match... There is nothing wrong with his chess, he just has health and psychological issues to overcome and he most likely will. The man was blundering pieces more often than I do lately - he's not slipping, he is ill. Also note that he's been experimenting with 1.e4 too much and that haven't gone too well. P.S. Don't tell me I like Kramnik 'cause I'm Russian.=) Personally, I can't stand him. | ||
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Jim
Sweden1965 Posts
 . Has Kasparov retired or why isnt he mentioned in any context? | ||
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NeverEndingStory
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TheBlackJack
57 Posts
Doubt it. Hydra would rape him, though probably not as bad as Adams. Topalov missed two easy wins against Anand and Morozevich, and playing that way against Hydra is a sure way to lose. How about a little faith in Humans, you cyborg? Topalov managed a draw against Hydra in Bilbao. Either way it would be an awesome match. | ||
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Jim
Sweden1965 Posts
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game.no
Norway445 Posts
And Kramnik has dropped so unbelievably fast it's shocking. But no surprise, because his play style is quite boring just like Leko. | ||
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NeverEndingStory
446 Posts
How it sounds,I would not mind be at medicore master level at all ; ) Yeah I was very surprised of Topalov winning I thought that Anand can make it.. | ||
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goldrush
Canada709 Posts
How about a little faith in Humans, you cyborg? Topalov managed a draw against Hydra in Bilbao. Either way it would be an awesome match. Draw is by no means a win. | ||
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TheBlackJack
57 Posts
Draw is by no means a win. And it's by no means a rape. | ||
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goldrush
Canada709 Posts
Okay. Maybe not a rape. But neither side can really base anything off of one game... | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
What I hate are Kasparov-style players that use massive amounts of opening preparation. That ruins the effing game. Same for people who short-draw repeatedly. | ||
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SurG
Russian Federation798 Posts
On October 15 2005 18:36 GrandInquisitor wrote: I was rooting for Morozevich all the way. We need more fucking crazy players like him. Same reason I like Polgar. What I hate are Kasparov-style players that use massive amounts of opening preparation. That ruins the effing game. Same for people who short-draw repeatedly. WTF? You hate the man because he works on his openings? You are talking about Kasparov, who revitalized a lot of extremely sharp openings, like Grunfeld, King's Indian and Sicilian Dragon. You praise Polgar and Moro for being "crazy" and creating sharp positions, but there is nobody even close to Kasparov in ability to create and play sharp positions. You say Kasparov wins because he is better prepared in the opening? He wins because he is a better at almost all aspects of the game, including his work ethic towards opening theory. You might want to check out Kasparov - Topalov from Corus 1999. Also I have to remind you that last two tournaments he played he probably had more entertaining games than all of his opponents combined. 1 or 2 short draws in 20-something games, all others were fighting chess. This question keeps popping up, so... Kasparov oficially announced his retirement after the last game in Linares 2005, which he won. It was somewhat controversial, because he won on a tie-break (he had more wins with black then Topalov.) In the last game with Topa he had black and was ahead by full point. Had an easily drawable position, but mentally collapsed from thinking it's his last game as a pro chess player (he decided to quit before Linares started) and blundered terribly, allowing Topa to exchange rest of the pieces on the board and achieve a winning pawn endgame. | ||
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NeverEndingStory
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
On October 14 2005 17:59 SurG wrote: The one player obviously missing was Ivanchuk, no doubt. Polgar is probably not good enough for this level of competition, especially after inactivity. As far as others, I don't think you can take Grischuk instead of Moro or Bacrot instead of Adams. There is virtually no difference in skill there, and given the circumstances it's just plain luck that some were ahead in the rating lists at some point. Case can be made for any out of top 20. As far as Kasim is concerned, I'm not his fan, but he is the only one who went through any kind of competitive selection process, so his place in the tourney really can't be disputed. It'd great to see FIDE getting a somewhat legitimate title holder. Let's hope that they can manage to organize a championship cycle now. The best thing would be a legitimate cycle and Kramnik loosing match to Topalov. But I would still take a top-form Kramnik over Topalov in a match. The question is will Kramnik ever reach his top form again - he's been playing like shit lately. I'd definately want to see Ivanchuk instead of Polgar and Kramnik instead of perhaps Adams or Moro (Moro certainly finished decently, Adams is probably more consistant). Kasim is of course a bit behind in ratings but he earned his spot, and if Ivanchuk would've been top10 he would've been in also. Chuckie is looking seriously hot at the moment though, i'd also like to see Aronian playing, already top10 and improving rapidly, in a few years he'll be top5. | ||
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Dealer
Sweden1368 Posts
I agree with you though, Kramnik in form is as scary as a match player can get, he's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to beat, and his endgame technique is unmatched, which allows him to squeeze out a win from very hard positions. The way he beat Leko in their final game in Switzerland is beautiful, no gambling, no risks, just pure grinding your opponent down. One has to understand the risks Topalov took to compare it. Against a player like Kramnik he would almost never win a game like his white against Adams, and i do believe he would occasionally lose it. Kramnik doesnt take those risks, and sure does agree to more draws than he should. | ||
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