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[Chess] Topalov World Champion

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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
October 13 2005 14:39 GMT
#1
So 1 round before the end Topalov has 1.5 advantage before Svidler and Anand.
So far undefeteated at the tournament Topalov is going to be the new world champion!!!

Topalov
brite
Profile Joined January 2005
United Kingdom253 Posts
October 13 2005 15:55 GMT
#2
nice
is there somewhere where you can see the games??
i mean the moves
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
October 13 2005 16:02 GMT
#3
http://www.wccsanluis.net/home.asp?lang=en
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
October 13 2005 16:13 GMT
#4
Polgar got raped too, only one win balanced against 6 losses and 6 draws.
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sdpgposd
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom1464 Posts
October 13 2005 16:43 GMT
#5
I love chess, the best place on the net is http://www.uschesslive.com

You should check it out, its really good
NeverEndingStory
Profile Joined February 2005
446 Posts
October 13 2005 16:45 GMT
#6
Personally I'd like to see Kasparov,Karpov or even Fischer at the 1st place...since there are not competing maybe Anand will make it,I prefer his style of the game,anyway congratulations Topalov for making it that far and having advantage.
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Soun
Profile Joined September 2004
Poland373 Posts
October 13 2005 16:50 GMT
#7
He he he, I played a game vs Topalov, many many years ago. He was 17, and was playing open tournaments in Catalonia. There was a Masnou blitz after St. Cugat tournament, we both took part, and I had the (i thought) bad luck to play him. Obviously, he totally raped me, I can only remember one more humiliating defeat.

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NeverEndingStory
Profile Joined February 2005
446 Posts
October 13 2005 16:54 GMT
#8
Hahaha ,I'd wish I could play a game vs a top player now,of course I know I'd be totally raped too,but I could at least find out how bad I really am at chess; )
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Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
October 13 2005 18:48 GMT
#9
Funny thing is that Bulgaria now has both the WC for men and women.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
October 13 2005 19:44 GMT
#10
On October 14 2005 01:45 NeverEndingStory wrote:
Personally I'd like to see Kasparov,Karpov or even Fischer at the 1st place...since there are not competing maybe Anand will make it,I prefer his style of the game,anyway congratulations Topalov for making it that far and having advantage.


but dude, Fischer is in jail and Kasparov is running to become president. Not aware of Karpov's status.......
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Soun
Profile Joined September 2004
Poland373 Posts
October 13 2005 20:29 GMT
#11
On October 14 2005 04:44 lightman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2005 01:45 NeverEndingStory wrote:
Personally I'd like to see Kasparov,Karpov or even Fischer at the 1st place...since there are not competing maybe Anand will make it,I prefer his style of the game,anyway congratulations Topalov for making it that far and having advantage.


but dude, Fischer is in jail and Kasparov is running to become president. Not aware of Karpov's status.......


Fisher got asylum in Iceland, he's not in jail. Karpov is right now trying to be the FIDE president, and it seems Ilyuminov is a bit afraid of him. He's bashing Karpov every time he can. He played the spanish teams championship last month and at a very low level. And personally, I think Kasparov will play his last match vs Topalov on the old way, candidate vs champion, to finally retire from chess being the world champion.

The one I missed in San Luis was Kortchnoi. He wouldn't have won, but he's the oldest and stronger old-schooler right now. I could see him in Igualada, and he stills enjoys playing chess.
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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4617 Posts
October 13 2005 23:54 GMT
#12
Topalov and I had the same trainer
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Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
October 14 2005 00:11 GMT
#13
Korchnoi is decent, not more. There are 2 players missing, and that's without a doubt Ivanchuk and Kramnik. Kick out Moro/Adams/Polgar/Kasim. Take in Kramnik, Ivanchuk, Aronian and Bacrot or Grischuk. Sadly those guys, except for kramnik were not in the top10 last year when it was decided. Ivanchuk has leaped up to 5th now tho (4th excluding Kasparov).
h e l l o e
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
October 14 2005 00:14 GMT
#14
On October 14 2005 03:48 Beast_Bg wrote:
Funny thing is that Bulgaria now has both the WC for men and women.


Doubtful, since Topalov is not really the "world champion", Kramnik still has the classical chess World Champion title, and that title is a lot more important, hopefully they will play for unification this time tho.
h e l l o e
NeverEndingStory
Profile Joined February 2005
446 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-14 01:26:48
October 14 2005 01:25 GMT
#15
Dealer you know why Kramnik did not compete in that tournament today?I haven't observed chess scene for quite long time so I am curious,did he lose in eliminations?
Yeah I agree with you that title in classical chess is more important,I hoped Anand will overtake Topalov though.

edit:
Is this true Karpov and Kasparov are trying to give up chess soon?I have heard that they are not doing well lately..
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TheBlackJack
Profile Joined December 2004
57 Posts
October 14 2005 08:08 GMT
#16
Topalov was my WGTour smurf a few months ago. Can I pick 'em or what? http://www.wgtour.com/member.php?datab=broodwar&id=107684

I'm disappointed that Topalov was content with drawing his last eight matches to secure the win. He gave one of the greatest performaces in chess history for the first half of the tournament. He could have really left his mark, passing 2800 and maybe even Kasparov. He's not getting any younger and there are few Korchnoi out there.

NeverEndingStory, I think Kramnik didn't compete in San Luis because he would have been defending his title against eight people at once. Not to sure about that.

Bring on Hydra?
SurG
Profile Joined June 2003
Russian Federation798 Posts
October 14 2005 08:59 GMT
#17
The one player obviously missing was Ivanchuk, no doubt. Polgar is probably not good enough for this level of competition, especially after inactivity. As far as others, I don't think you can take Grischuk instead of Moro or Bacrot instead of Adams. There is virtually no difference in skill there, and given the circumstances it's just plain luck that some were ahead in the rating lists at some point. Case can be made for any out of top 20. As far as Kasim is concerned, I'm not his fan, but he is the only one who went through any kind of competitive selection process, so his place in the tourney really can't be disputed.

It'd great to see FIDE getting a somewhat legitimate title holder. Let's hope that they can manage to organize a championship cycle now. The best thing would be a legitimate cycle and Kramnik loosing match to Topalov. But I would still take a top-form Kramnik over Topalov in a match. The question is will Kramnik ever reach his top form again - he's been playing like shit lately.
Tiger-
Profile Joined October 2002
Mexico190 Posts
October 14 2005 10:37 GMT
#18
On October 14 2005 00:55 brite wrote:
nice
is there somewhere where you can see the games??
i mean the moves


http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?tid=47798&crosstable=1
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yare
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
507 Posts
October 14 2005 10:37 GMT
#19
is there a program where you can enter in chess moves and watch the game on a board? I enjoy chess, but can't really read through a series of moves and imagine the board.
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-14 10:44:51
October 14 2005 10:43 GMT
#20
Polgar performed decently in Corus 2005 (+1 with 7.0/13 and fourth place out of 14) and had an even score in Mtel. One bad tournament does not make her a bad player. Same thing with Adams. Moro, admittedly, tanked Corus, but proved his worth at the chess championship by scoring even (+3 -3 =8) and taking fourth place. Sure, maybe he should've lost a couple of games, but he didn't. Some of the endgame play was superb in this tournament, both on defense and offense.

However, the way that FIDE did this was fair. They took the average ELO of the contestants over a certain period of time and the top players were invited. Kramnik didn't want to play, so he didn't.

passing 2800


He passed 2800 with this tournament.

Kramnik, Ivanchuk, Aronian and Bacrot or Grischuk.


Ivanchuk is great when he's on form, but when he isn't... Witness the -1 score at Karabakh recently, including a loss on time (!) with a 30 second increment in a simple bishop and pawn endgame. Kramnik, I believe, was invited, but declined.

Bring on Hydra?


Doubt it. Hydra would rape him, though probably not as bad as Adams. Topalov missed two easy wins against Anand and Morozevich, and playing that way against Hydra is a sure way to lose.

But I would still take a top-form Kramnik over Topalov in a match.


As you said, the question is if Kramnik will ever be good enough to really compete seriously as the best player in the world. He's lost points in damn near every single tournament he's played in. He's in danger slipping out of the top 10 in the world if he doesn't pick up his game. The sad part? He probably won't agree to a title match for some time, as he recently had that match against Leko. And until Kramnik loses the title, he is still the person who 'beat the man who beat the man who beat Steinitz'. (Well, except for Fischer/Alekhine).
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