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jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
March 18 2012 23:57 GMT
#161
poor maldonado... and that safety car timing was really fortunate for vettel
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1099 Posts
March 19 2012 07:22 GMT
#162
On March 19 2012 08:57 jfourz wrote:
poor maldonado... and that safety car timing was really fortunate for vettel


Have to say after he took our the French Renault driver that name I can't spell, for no reason, he had it coming.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 19 2012 08:42 GMT
#163
Damn SC!! Ruined Mclaren 1-2. Damn, and Button was so lucky, Hamilton mistake with wheel spin at the start gifts Button the line into first corner, Hamiltons gives it him, Button rapes his tyres gets a lead, Lewis gets traffic.

Pits then hamper Hamilton to fuck costing him time getting caught behind Perez, manages to get past him after 3/4 laps then to top it off he pits fine and then vetell gets the luckiest break ever and gets a free 2nd place due to SC in the perfect timing. So annoying!

No one should be allowed too dissapoint Nicole either Damnnnnnn she looked hot!
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 10:13:45
March 19 2012 10:12 GMT
#164
On March 19 2012 17:42 Pandemona wrote:
Damn SC!! Ruined Mclaren 1-2. Damn, and Button was so lucky, Hamilton mistake with wheel spin at the start gifts Button the line into first corner, Hamiltons gives it him, Button rapes his tyres gets a lead, Lewis gets traffic.

Pits then hamper Hamilton to fuck costing him time getting caught behind Perez, manages to get past him after 3/4 laps then to top it off he pits fine and then vetell gets the luckiest break ever and gets a free 2nd place due to SC in the perfect timing. So annoying!

No one should be allowed too dissapoint Nicole either Damnnnnnn she looked hot!


Button lucky, wtf? lucky with Hamiltons retarded start or what? Even after the start Jenson was faster and building a gap to Hammy. Its true SC cost Hamilton sceond place probably but Button beaten him fair and square this time.
oh in the sun sun having fun
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 19 2012 10:21 GMT
#165
On March 19 2012 19:12 mijagi182 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 17:42 Pandemona wrote:
Damn SC!! Ruined Mclaren 1-2. Damn, and Button was so lucky, Hamilton mistake with wheel spin at the start gifts Button the line into first corner, Hamiltons gives it him, Button rapes his tyres gets a lead, Lewis gets traffic.

Pits then hamper Hamilton to fuck costing him time getting caught behind Perez, manages to get past him after 3/4 laps then to top it off he pits fine and then vetell gets the luckiest break ever and gets a free 2nd place due to SC in the perfect timing. So annoying!

No one should be allowed too dissapoint Nicole either Damnnnnnn she looked hot!


Button lucky, wtf? lucky with Hamiltons retarded start or what? Even after the start Jenson was faster and building a gap to Hammy. Its true SC cost Hamilton sceond place probably but Button beaten him fair and square this time.


You didn't read the important bit, Lewis wheel spin cost him the race, it damaged his tyres to quickly, he complained about them before his first pit for a reason. Wheel spin and any slight hinderance on your tyres is CRUCIAL. Anyone can wheel spin on the start and that cost him the whole race due to button getting priority pits! Buttons race to lose, only time he had to race was off the start and after SC.
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 19 2012 10:47 GMT
#166
On March 19 2012 19:21 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 19:12 mijagi182 wrote:
On March 19 2012 17:42 Pandemona wrote:
Damn SC!! Ruined Mclaren 1-2. Damn, and Button was so lucky, Hamilton mistake with wheel spin at the start gifts Button the line into first corner, Hamiltons gives it him, Button rapes his tyres gets a lead, Lewis gets traffic.

Pits then hamper Hamilton to fuck costing him time getting caught behind Perez, manages to get past him after 3/4 laps then to top it off he pits fine and then vetell gets the luckiest break ever and gets a free 2nd place due to SC in the perfect timing. So annoying!

No one should be allowed too dissapoint Nicole either Damnnnnnn she looked hot!


Button lucky, wtf? lucky with Hamiltons retarded start or what? Even after the start Jenson was faster and building a gap to Hammy. Its true SC cost Hamilton sceond place probably but Button beaten him fair and square this time.


You didn't read the important bit, Lewis wheel spin cost him the race, it damaged his tyres to quickly, he complained about them before his first pit for a reason. Wheel spin and any slight hinderance on your tyres is CRUCIAL. Anyone can wheel spin on the start and that cost him the whole race due to button getting priority pits! Buttons race to lose, only time he had to race was off the start and after SC.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98151

i dont see him blaming wheel spin. Just bad start and LACK OF PACE overall

Hamilton conceded he could not understand where his lack of pace was coming from.

"I really don't know, I just struggled out there," said Hamilton. "I got a shocking start which was really the beginning of it all.


even if we assume that by "shocking start" he means wheel spin and damaging the tyres this doesn't explain the rest of the interview.
oh in the sun sun having fun
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 19 2012 10:59 GMT
#167
Yeah of course theres lack of pace, but it was clearly the bad start wheel spin taking chunks of the tyres which caused this, he complained about the tyres themselves during the race over radio . Its a after race interview as well so its not like he had time to look at the race itself xD interview with him during this week will give you a clear answer. Im not taking anything away from Button im just saying he got rather lucky compared to Hamilton who was rather unlucky.

And he wasn't that slow he had the 2nd fastest lap? or 3rd beating his pole position lap time of 1.29.995 beat that with a 1.29.885 or something during the race, Button did get the fastest with a 1.29.600 something?
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 11:42:03
March 19 2012 11:21 GMT
#168
I never said he was slow... just Button was faster overall that day

Lewis is a great driver. Over one lap, or even several laps Hammy is probably quicker one of the McLaren duo. Buttons strengh is his less agressive driving style is getting more life from pirrelis over a stint, and probably is more complete driver (experienced too). But there are tracks where looking after the tyres is less important factor.

And he looked so dissapointed on press conference... right now i think his head is his main threat not Button or Vettel. He needs to stay cool even if few races dont go the way he plans
oh in the sun sun having fun
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
March 19 2012 14:49 GMT
#169

On March 19 2012 19:59 Pandemona wrote:And he wasn't that slow he had the 2nd fastest lap? or 3rd beating his pole position lap time of 1.29.995 beat that with a 1.29.885 or something during the race, Button did get the fastest with a 1.29.600 something?


Hamilton pole 1:24.922

Button race 1:29.187
Vettel race 1:29.417
Webber race 1:29.438
Hamilton race 1:29.538

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 19 2012 15:22 GMT
#170
On March 19 2012 23:49 zere wrote:

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 19:59 Pandemona wrote:And he wasn't that slow he had the 2nd fastest lap? or 3rd beating his pole position lap time of 1.29.995 beat that with a 1.29.885 or something during the race, Button did get the fastest with a 1.29.600 something?


Hamilton pole 1:24.922

Button race 1:29.187
Vettel race 1:29.417
Webber race 1:29.438
Hamilton race 1:29.538



So, im 70% right? Yes thanks for that.
Few 100s of seconds out but basically right. Minus Hamilton was 4th fastest total lap not 2/3.

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Maiden UK
Profile Joined November 2011
England61 Posts
March 19 2012 15:56 GMT
#171
On March 19 2012 16:22 baldgye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 08:57 jfourz wrote:
poor maldonado... and that safety car timing was really fortunate for vettel


Have to say after he took our the French Renault driver that name I can't spell, for no reason, he had it coming.


That was a racing incident, he should have left more space, but he didn't just take him out...

Also, Bruno
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1997 Posts
March 19 2012 16:56 GMT
#172
Well, it was a very interesting weekend that hopefully is the start of a great season. The cars are indeed much closer than last year and I expect a good title battle.
Red bull are quicker than people think, although it was hard to follow at the time due to FOM live timing not working for me I think they have a very similar race pace to McLaren. A sort of role reversal to the start of last year as McLaren appeared around 3/10ths quicker in quali trim, however you can see why if you look closely. They (RB) seem to have a slight tyre warming issue which resulted in Webber needing softs in Q1 and therefore only one run in Q3. Vettel on the other hand had no soft practice in P3 and admiited he made a big mistake on his final lap. If they had run as smoothly over the weekend as McLaren I feel pole would have been a much tighter battle. Tie in the fact that Australia is generally a McLaren track it seems as though they are pretty even at this stage.
Also, Hamilton was faster in the race than it appeared. He lost around 3sec to Button in the first couple laps but matched him after. His first pit-stop was a disaster though, on the lap JB pitted Lewis' tyres were finished. He lost around 3sec that lap to Button and had to do another lap after this. He emerged around 11sec behind and in traffic and despite this closed the gap over the stint. The SC then cost him as we all know and he was destined for third.
I thought Maldonado and Massa can count themselves lucky to escape punishment, I just hope it is a sign of greater leniency from the stewards this season compared with last. Vergne/Ricciardo also looks like it will be tasty, thought they both drove very well.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 17:49:10
March 19 2012 17:48 GMT
#173
nice op :D
i like formula 1, me and my father watched it since i was very young :D
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 20 2012 09:40 GMT
#174
On March 20 2012 02:48 TeMiL wrote:
nice op :D
i like formula 1, me and my father watched it since i was very young :D


y though im not sure why "McLaren team + data" part
oh in the sun sun having fun
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 20 2012 09:48 GMT
#175
On March 20 2012 01:56 Aristodemus wrote:Red bull are quicker than people think, although it was hard to follow at the time due to FOM live timing not working for me I think they have a very similar race pace to McLaren. A sort of role reversal to the start of last year as McLaren appeared around 3/10ths quicker in quali trim, however you can see why if you look closely. They (RB) seem to have a slight tyre warming issue which resulted in Webber needing softs in Q1 and therefore only one run in Q3. Vettel on the other hand had no soft practice in P3 and admiited he made a big mistake on his final lap. If they had run as smoothly over the weekend as McLaren I feel pole would have been a much tighter battle. Tie in the fact that Australia is generally a McLaren track it seems as though they are pretty even at this stage.


Agree, I expect RB to be much closer if not ahead (of maccas) in Sepang. Also its much better track to indicate true order. On the other hand with the grid so close pace-wise the "order" will be so variable with every cars updates... SO COOL SEASON AHEAD!!!
oh in the sun sun having fun
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
March 20 2012 10:28 GMT
#176
Great race, tense till the last lap + Show Spoiler +
happy kimi and ricciardo came in top 10
and looking forward to Malaysia this weekend!

Also, how hilarious was it when kimi radioed what the blue flags were all about. Too much time in rally eh kimster?
Gourmand
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada101 Posts
March 20 2012 19:47 GMT
#177
Kimi wasn't the only one radioing about blue flags.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpistf_2012-f1-australian-grand-prix-pit-channel-team-radio-feature_auto
At 8:15 Jenson asked the same thing.

It was a nice race, there was battle all over the field, and everyone seem closer then last year.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 20 2012 21:20 GMT
#178
On March 21 2012 04:47 Gourmand wrote:
Kimi wasn't the only one radioing about blue flags.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpistf_2012-f1-australian-grand-prix-pit-channel-team-radio-feature_auto
At 8:15 Jenson asked the same thing.

It was a nice race, there was battle all over the field, and everyone seem closer then last year.

Ahh very interesting. Funny how it was taken out of context.
The Mclaren guy thought it wasn't for cars behind but for people exiting the pit lane too.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 21 2012 10:20 GMT
#179
Hottest race of the year this weekend, going to be fun! Hope for another great Qualifying like Australia. Hope kimi turns up this time too! Looked good in the race.
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 12:49:41
March 21 2012 12:49 GMT
#180
Malaysian Grand Prix
1st gear not used on track
Grip evolution during weekend: High
Bumpiness: low
Kerbs: smooth
Understeer in high-speed T5/T6 corners and traction instability
Top speed: T1 or T15
Overtaking chance: T15
Engine severity: medium
Gearbox severity: medium
Aero settings: high
Brake wear severity: medium
Very high ambient temperature and humidity
Forecast Day1: heavy rain
Forecast Day2: heavy rain
Forecast Day3: heavy rain

*crosses fingers for rain*
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