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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 17 2012 12:08 GMT
#121
Hopefully there will be no RB domination this year!! :>

The field is so close with 7* different cars in top 10

hard to say McLaren is fastest in general since Melbourne is more about traction and less about areo than rest of the tracks
but surely they look strong.

Lotus (reanault) was always good at less areo heavy tracks, lets see what they can do in race and next weekend.

Merc (cheaters ) look strong too... and Ferrari is a dog so far
should be interesting season this one

*Perez was given 5 place drop for gearbox change
oh in the sun sun having fun
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
March 17 2012 13:33 GMT
#122
On March 17 2012 20:47 Vagabond wrote:
HRT for the second year in a row has been told they can't race in austrailia, after putting in a request to waver the 107% rule with the stewards. The stewards rejected it from a safety stand point.

I think its time for the FIA to get tougher on HRT since they are realy taking the micheal for the last three years only brining the car to the first race, only for it to brake down or slow everyone else up.


You have to give HRT credit for getting this far, for a brand new team with basically no money they are doing the very best they can.

But I don't think they should be allowed to race becasue they are simply a hinderance to the rest of the pack at the moment.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
March 17 2012 13:35 GMT
#123
On March 17 2012 21:08 mijagi182 wrote:
Hopefully there will be no RB domination this year!! :>
The field is so close with 7* different cars in top 10
hard to say McLaren is fastest in general since Melbourne is more about traction and less about areo than rest of the tracks
but surely they look strong.
Lotus (reanault) was always good at less areo heavy tracks, lets see what they can do in race and next weekend.
Merc (cheaters ) look strong too... and Ferrari is a dog so far
should be interesting season this one

*Perez was given 5 place drop for gearbox change


From watching the onboard shots it seems pretty clear that the McLaren and the Merc are the nicest to drive, and the middle of the pack have caught up ALOT... but yeah, that Ferrari is a mess at the moment and look horrible to drive... they have alot of work ahead of them
Vagabond
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 14:27:22
March 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#124
On March 17 2012 22:33 baldgye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 20:47 Vagabond wrote:
HRT for the second year in a row has been told they can't race in austrailia, after putting in a request to waver the 107% rule with the stewards. The stewards rejected it from a safety stand point.

I think its time for the FIA to get tougher on HRT since they are realy taking the micheal for the last three years only brining the car to the first race, only for it to brake down or slow everyone else up.


You have to give HRT credit for getting this far, for a brand new team with basically no money they are doing the very best they can.

But I don't think they should be allowed to race becasue they are simply a hinderance to the rest of the pack at the moment.

You can't keep giving them credit for just bring a custer bomb of parts called a car to the first race of the year(And then do a shake down for the first time, three years in a row i might add). The only credit left for them is they have not folded like USF1 3 years ago before the first race. I don't see them making the season this year. This is going to be Super aguri halfway through the 08 season
Drone untill i die.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 15:43:52
March 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#125
Mclaren E Z P Z, bout time they and others are shoving Red Bull into there place! There nothing without there Difuser abuse last season, glad FIA decided to ban it this year. Also im glad they have made the cars less "computery" so drivers actually earn there money by DRIVING the car not just guiding it round corners.
Lewis and Jenson always have been Great drivers and in my opinion Vettell has lots to learn in another car which is less than the others, last season Button and Hamilton proved were good enough to drive a worst car than Red Bulls and still challenge, this season qualifying showed Mclaren are spot on at the start and Red Bull are off the pace for numerous reasons.

Massa is not a driver since his accident, when he came back he was bad, the start of this season he cant stick to the road due to the cars sliding out at the back and he cant handle the drifting at that speed, when there is a gap of 5-8+ places you know theres a problem in the driver not the car. Alonso always been a fantastic driver just has attitude problem which is not a bad thing as he wants to win everytime, i still like him as a driver even though he is a bit agressive in any press conference or with team mates!

Im hoping Button and Hamilton dont drive eachother off or into mistakes tomorrow because they both are very competitive i hope no incidents between them off the start, but i find it very interesting race with Grojean in 3rd, he will want to do well in the first corner tomorrow.

Lets keep the England flag flying Mclaren :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
March 17 2012 15:57 GMT
#126
bad day to be a ferrari fan... not even 1 in top 10 pole position
hopefuly they can comeback with a win tommorrow..maybe im expecting to much but anyways GL to them!
KMK,Qri,GsD#1, UEE,stork jangbi for life!
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 17 2012 17:05 GMT
#127
Biggest threat to Hamilton tomorrow?
Lapping Felipe Massa (twice)
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
March 17 2012 17:24 GMT
#128
On March 18 2012 00:57 imweakless wrote:
bad day to be a ferrari fan... not even 1 in top 10 pole position
hopefuly they can comeback with a win tommorrow..maybe im expecting to much but anyways GL to them!

The Ferrari car looks really troubling - both drivers were really struggling for traction throughout qualifying and both of them seemed to be preparing for next week in their interviews.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 17 2012 17:33 GMT
#129
Wow !
I'm happy to see that the Lotus seems nice. I always been a fan of Raikkonen since he got this championship by 1pts in the last Grandprix, and for his comeback from last place to winner in Japan 2007. Sad the miscommunication make him being 18h here tho.
Having a French at third is nice, been a long time since one has been good.

" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Mieszko
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden25 Posts
March 17 2012 20:49 GMT
#130
Man i would've sacrificed one of my balls to have räikkönen in grosjeans place! bummer he missed out in q1. Hopefully schumi can provide us with some entertainment from fourth.
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 21:03:58
March 17 2012 21:03 GMT
#131
Alonso is a seriously good starter, he will eat both Toro Rossos for breakfast. His race pace and sheer talent will put him into P8, but from that point on I really don't see his car being able to do any better unless there are retirements in the leading pack. I would have never thought I would ever say something like this, but: I hope Ferrari will do better in the near future.
From P1-P7, everything is possible, literally everything.
And it will be a blast to watch Kimi moshing through the midfield.
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 17 2012 21:24 GMT
#132
not so sure about Alonso. Resports say new ferrari has a very narrow performance window. So they can do a relatively good one lap in qually but entire race with different fuel loads/changing conditions (sun setting - track cooling, etc) i dunno...

Also their tyre drop off was one of the biggest during race sims at last Barcelona test. It will be really hard for Alonso to get into top8
oh in the sun sun having fun
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 17 2012 21:33 GMT
#133
On March 18 2012 00:57 imweakless wrote:
bad day to be a ferrari fan... not even 1 in top 10 pole position
hopefuly they can comeback with a win tommorrow..maybe im expecting to much but anyways GL to them!


Season is long. Reportedly they are working on a completely new chasis which should be ready for Spain GP, once it completes crash tests. So theres a hope still for Alonsos WDC if he doesnt lose too many points before the upgrade



Anyway, Ferrari is still strugling to deliver a car thats up to the expectations for a few years now... werid
oh in the sun sun having fun
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 17 2012 21:36 GMT
#134
On March 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:
Wow !
I'm happy to see that the Lotus seems nice. I always been a fan of Raikkonen since he got this championship by 1pts in the last Grandprix, and for his comeback from last place to winner in Japan 2007. Sad the miscommunication make him being 18h here tho.
Having a French at third is nice, been a long time since one has been good.



Yeah. A fellowman in F1 is really helping with choosing who to support

Oh, Kubica!!!! Why you not in this car when its finally FAST!!!!!! (((

still rooting for Lotus though
oh in the sun sun having fun
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
March 17 2012 21:51 GMT
#135
On March 17 2012 23:25 Vagabond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 22:33 baldgye wrote:
On March 17 2012 20:47 Vagabond wrote:
HRT for the second year in a row has been told they can't race in austrailia, after putting in a request to waver the 107% rule with the stewards. The stewards rejected it from a safety stand point.

I think its time for the FIA to get tougher on HRT since they are realy taking the micheal for the last three years only brining the car to the first race, only for it to brake down or slow everyone else up.


You have to give HRT credit for getting this far, for a brand new team with basically no money they are doing the very best they can.

But I don't think they should be allowed to race becasue they are simply a hinderance to the rest of the pack at the moment.

You can't keep giving them credit for just bring a custer bomb of parts called a car to the first race of the year(And then do a shake down for the first time, three years in a row i might add). The only credit left for them is they have not folded like USF1 3 years ago before the first race. I don't see them making the season this year. This is going to be Super aguri halfway through the 08 season


simply being there to 'compete' is an achivment in its self given the insane barrier to entry F1 has, the more new teams the better... its sad that they are struggling so much, but who knows what the future holds.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
March 17 2012 21:52 GMT
#136
On March 17 2012 23:25 Vagabond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 22:33 baldgye wrote:
On March 17 2012 20:47 Vagabond wrote:
HRT for the second year in a row has been told they can't race in austrailia, after putting in a request to waver the 107% rule with the stewards. The stewards rejected it from a safety stand point.

I think its time for the FIA to get tougher on HRT since they are realy taking the micheal for the last three years only brining the car to the first race, only for it to brake down or slow everyone else up.


You have to give HRT credit for getting this far, for a brand new team with basically no money they are doing the very best they can.

But I don't think they should be allowed to race becasue they are simply a hinderance to the rest of the pack at the moment.

You can't keep giving them credit for just bring a custer bomb of parts called a car to the first race of the year(And then do a shake down for the first time, three years in a row i might add). The only credit left for them is they have not folded like USF1 3 years ago before the first race. I don't see them making the season this year. This is going to be Super aguri halfway through the 08 season


simply being there to 'compete' is an achivment in its self given the insane barrier to entry F1 has, the more new teams the better... its sad that they are struggling so much, but who knows what the future holds... just think back to how well Karun did at monaco in a HRT (before being taken out by Truli)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 17 2012 21:54 GMT
#137
On March 18 2012 06:51 baldgye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 23:25 Vagabond wrote:
On March 17 2012 22:33 baldgye wrote:
On March 17 2012 20:47 Vagabond wrote:
HRT for the second year in a row has been told they can't race in austrailia, after putting in a request to waver the 107% rule with the stewards. The stewards rejected it from a safety stand point.

I think its time for the FIA to get tougher on HRT since they are realy taking the micheal for the last three years only brining the car to the first race, only for it to brake down or slow everyone else up.


You have to give HRT credit for getting this far, for a brand new team with basically no money they are doing the very best they can.

But I don't think they should be allowed to race becasue they are simply a hinderance to the rest of the pack at the moment.

You can't keep giving them credit for just bring a custer bomb of parts called a car to the first race of the year(And then do a shake down for the first time, three years in a row i might add). The only credit left for them is they have not folded like USF1 3 years ago before the first race. I don't see them making the season this year. This is going to be Super aguri halfway through the 08 season


simply being there to 'compete' is an achivment in its self given the insane barrier to entry F1 has, the more new teams the better... its sad that they are struggling so much, but who knows what the future holds.


Yeah, and with numerous campaigns for "money caps" on how much a team came spend on there cars looming, it only opens the doors to more cars, HOWEVER there surely needs to be a limit, unless what happens with the HRT today, is going to happen more and more. Cars will be on the grid but there will be a "par" qualifying time to be able to race in race day. You can't have (imo) no more than 24 cars on the grid at one time, or the first lap becomes way to dangerous as it is, especially as most tracks are long straight roads before corner 1 thus the cars travelling 150-200kmh plus before taking the corner = bad bad accidents waiting to happen.

But hopefully something will happen, alot of the good drivers do get picked up early. Like the new french man is he? Vern? Did very well in qualifying.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
March 18 2012 01:25 GMT
#138
Are there any online streams of the Australian GP that are "international" and not restricted to certain countries (eg. sky for England)?
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 18 2012 02:14 GMT
#139
I don't know of any im affraid, would be pay only if there was im pretty sure.

http://www.wiziwig.tv/competition.php?discipline=football&part=sports

Is a stream site if you want to watch it at any cost.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 18 2012 02:28 GMT
#140
Oh god, i forgot it's Australia.
It's 3:30am now here I live, and the GrandPrix is only in about3 more hour. Can't sleep or I'll probably miss it.. Aaaargh
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
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