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cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 06:09:22
December 31 2011 05:58 GMT
#1
Dream - Fight for Japan: Genki Desu Ka! New Year! 2011

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Satoshi Ishii
DREAM Lightweight Title: Shinya Aoki vs. Satoru Kitaoka
Tatsuya Kawajiri vs. Kazuyuki Miyata
Hayato Sakurai vs, Ryo Chonan
Hiroyuki "Streetfight Bancho" Takaya vs Takeshi "Lion Takeshi" Inoue

Megumi Fujii vs. Karla Benitez

Too lazy to make a fancy OP since it's starting now
sprd
Profile Joined February 2011
United States33 Posts
December 31 2011 06:02 GMT
#2
Dont forget Josh Barnett, Tim Sylvia, and Peter Aerts are on the card as well!!

not to mention the BW tourny.
SingletonWilliam
Profile Joined April 2008
United States664 Posts
December 31 2011 06:03 GMT
#3
Anyone have a stream up? I've been at a loss since myp2peu went down.
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
December 31 2011 06:04 GMT
#4
anyone got a stream link ?
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
sprd
Profile Joined February 2011
United States33 Posts
December 31 2011 06:13 GMT
#5
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/100270/1/watch-dream-nye-2011-:-fedor-emelianenko-vs-satoshi-ishii.html

Might want to check there.

It hasnt started just yet. Just announcers talking. Its on HDnet if you have the channel.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
December 31 2011 06:28 GMT
#6

DREAM Rules

17. HW: Fedor Emelianenko (106kg) vs. Satoshi Ishii (97.4kg)

DREAM Lightweight Title Fight (5×5 mins)

16. Shinya Aoki (70kg) vs. Satoru Kitaoka (70kg)

DREAM Featherweight Title Fight (5×5 mins)

15. Hiroyuki Takaya (65kg) vs. Lion Takeshi (64.8kg)

IGF Rules

14. Kazushi Sakuraba/Katsuyori Shibata vs. Shinichi Suzukawa/Atsushi Sawada
13. Kazuyuki Fujita vs. Peter Aerts
12. Jerome Le Banner vs. Tim Sylvia

DREAM World Bantamweight Tournament Finals

11. Final: Imanari/Banuelos vs. Fernandes/Marques

MIX Rules (1st K-1, 2nd DREAM, Automatic Draw)

10. Yuichiro “Jienotsu” Nagashima (73.5kg) vs. Katsunori Kikuno (73.5kg)

IGF Rules

9. Josh Barnett vs. Hideki Suzuki

DREAM Rules

8. Women’s 52kg: Megumi Fujii (52kg) vs. Karla Benitez (52kg)
7. FW: Tatsuya Kawajiri (65kg) vs. Kazuyuki Miyata (64.7kg)
6. WW: Hayato “Mach” Sakurai (75.8kg) vs. Ryo Chonan (75.5kg)

Kickboxing Rules

5. 64kg: Yuta Kubo (63.8kg) vs. Nils Widlund (63.6kg)
4. 64kg: Masaaki Noiri (64kg) vs. Kengo Sonoda (63.5kg)

DREAM World Bantamweight Tournament Finals

3. Semifinal: Bibiano Fernandes (61kg) vs. Rodolfo Marques Diniz (62.2kg -> re weigh-in)
2. Semifinal: Masakazu Imanari (60.8kg) vs. Antonio Banuelos (61kg)
1. Reserve: Hideo Tokoro (61kg) vs. Yusup Saadulaev (61.6kg)
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 31 2011 06:33 GMT
#7
fighter order is here:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/26689/bout-order-unveiled-for-saturdays-dream-new-year-2011-event.mma
AUSSIESCUM
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cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 06:39:49
December 31 2011 06:38 GMT
#8
First fight, KO slam!

Also, worst ref ever. 3 clear shots to the back of the head plus he stared at him for a good 3 seconds before stopping the fight. Good ol japanese refs :/
hugedong
Profile Joined June 2010
United States510 Posts
December 31 2011 06:39 GMT
#9
http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/25386/1/dream-nye-2011-live-stream-online.html

i think the guy broke his neck with a slam jesus
KaiserReinhard
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States554 Posts
December 31 2011 06:41 GMT
#10
On December 31 2011 15:39 hugedong wrote:
http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/25386/1/dream-nye-2011-live-stream-online.html

i think the guy broke his neck with a slam jesus


I'm getting some Russian action movie on this stream, is this normal?
twitch.tv/imkirok
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 06:48:21
December 31 2011 06:45 GMT
#11
here's a stream http://blroy.blogspot.com/

this one looks really good http://mystreams.tv/promo/dreamffj.html
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 06:49:13
December 31 2011 06:49 GMT
#12
Oh, sick MMA all night, hellz ya!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
SingletonWilliam
Profile Joined April 2008
United States664 Posts
December 31 2011 07:06 GMT
#13
This ring announcer looks pretty funny.
Aegraen #1 Fan!
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
December 31 2011 07:11 GMT
#14
Crazy Pride Lady at it again^^ Sadly i missed the first 2 fights its morning here again hehe
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 31 2011 07:43 GMT
#15
Have been reading a lot of articles about the UFC tonight and have only paid a bit of attention to this, does not feel like I have missed much.....
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 31 2011 08:14 GMT
#16
Weird, I thought he would get up from that.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
December 31 2011 08:16 GMT
#17
On December 31 2011 17:14 Diamond wrote:
Weird, I thought he would get up from that.


He was probably too exhausted to get up.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 08:37:14
December 31 2011 08:36 GMT
#18
I can't imagine why Dream decided to fill the time with this fight.......... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

Edit: Oh yea that was a cool finish, still.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
SingletonWilliam
Profile Joined April 2008
United States664 Posts
December 31 2011 08:38 GMT
#19
Everyone loves Minowaman, but there are definitely better fights to show.
Aegraen #1 Fan!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 09:11:06
December 31 2011 08:59 GMT
#20
Wtf did I miss the Aoki fight or they just talking about the Fedor fight?

Edit: This song is like the perfect walk out song.

Edit 2: Jesus that lady, going to wake up my entire neighborhood.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 10:01 GMT
#21
OK, what's going on?
Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
December 31 2011 10:10 GMT
#22
So is she just gonna dance, or go to the ring to fight?
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 10:17 GMT
#23
nice performance, fujii is just on another level when it comes to ground fighting in woman's mma
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 10:19:36
December 31 2011 10:19 GMT
#24
IGF Rules Bout:Atsushi Sawada and Shinichi Suzukawa vs. Kazushi Sakuraba and Katsuyori Shibata

how does 2v2 work?
tag team in mma? lol
#1 XellOs fan!
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 10:20 GMT
#25
isn't it a pro wrestling match?
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 10:33:30
December 31 2011 10:20 GMT
#26
On December 31 2011 19:20 ColdLava wrote:
isn't it a pro wrestling match?


oh thats what igf is? so barnett is gonna pro wrestle too? lame

don't understand how people can be a fan of MMA and enjoy pro wrestling, knowing that it's fake.
different strokes for different folks i guess

edit: so Kazuyuki Fujita vs. Peter Aerts and Le Banner vs Tim Sylvia are both pro wrestling...
was looking forward to those fights -__-;;
#1 XellOs fan!
cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
December 31 2011 10:42 GMT
#27
Not a big fan of pro wrestling but that Barnett match was actually entertaining
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 10:44 GMT
#28
On December 31 2011 19:20 danmooj1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 19:20 ColdLava wrote:
isn't it a pro wrestling match?


oh thats what igf is? so barnett is gonna pro wrestle too? lame

don't understand how people can be a fan of MMA and enjoy pro wrestling, knowing that it's fake.
different strokes for different folks i guess

edit: so Kazuyuki Fujita vs. Peter Aerts and Le Banner vs Tim Sylvia are both pro wrestling...
was looking forward to those fights -__-;;


HAHAH yeah the MMA scene and pro wrestling scene are a lot more closely intertwined in Japan than in North America, however, pro wrestling is handled a lot differently in Japan (less focus on drama/storylines and more focus on the matches)

That's why you'd occasionally see showmatches in MMA that were obviously not going to be competitive in Japan, they love spectacles.
Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
December 31 2011 10:46 GMT
#29
That was pretty entertaining for a puroresu match.
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
December 31 2011 10:49 GMT
#30
On December 31 2011 19:44 ColdLava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 19:20 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 19:20 ColdLava wrote:
isn't it a pro wrestling match?


oh thats what igf is? so barnett is gonna pro wrestle too? lame

don't understand how people can be a fan of MMA and enjoy pro wrestling, knowing that it's fake.
different strokes for different folks i guess

edit: so Kazuyuki Fujita vs. Peter Aerts and Le Banner vs Tim Sylvia are both pro wrestling...
was looking forward to those fights -__-;;


HAHAH yeah the MMA scene and pro wrestling scene are a lot more closely intertwined in Japan than in North America, however, pro wrestling is handled a lot differently in Japan (less focus on drama/storylines and more focus on the matches)

That's why you'd occasionally see showmatches in MMA that were obviously not going to be competitive in Japan, they love spectacles.


just watched the barnett match and yeah it looks very different from wrestling in the US. it was almost like a jiu-jitsu match, very technical and a bit more realistic
#1 XellOs fan!
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 10:49 GMT
#31
HOLY CRAP alistair overeem fighting TWO TIMES IN ONE NIGHT!
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
December 31 2011 10:52 GMT
#32
oh god.. the fujita fight.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 10:52 GMT
#33
THREE TIMES, WOW

on a side note, that was a fight Fujita should NEVER have taken

http://www.cracked.com/blog/worst-life-ever-the-story-of-kazuyuki-fujitas-skull/
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 11:06:34
December 31 2011 11:05 GMT
#34
had no idea about the fujita story lol. thought he was just another bum in pride.

a terrorist just hit the head of a japanese jesus with a stick.
lol can someone tell me what went on?
#1 XellOs fan!
Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
December 31 2011 11:06 GMT
#35
What just happened?
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
December 31 2011 11:06 GMT
#36
commentators are cracking me up
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
December 31 2011 11:08 GMT
#37
well...

...that was the fucking weirdest thing I've ever watched.

(the barnett/suzuki wrestling bout was actually pretty neat though)
Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
December 31 2011 11:30 GMT
#38
Did the commentator just say he's taking more shots than an alcoholic? hahahaha
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
December 31 2011 11:31 GMT
#39
On December 31 2011 20:30 Andrew2658 wrote:
Did the commentator just say he's taking more shots than an alcoholic? hahahaha


haha yeah, Schiavello is full of those one liners.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
SingletonWilliam
Profile Joined April 2008
United States664 Posts
December 31 2011 11:44 GMT
#40
"A guy with a smile that could make a stripper nervous."

That fight was awesome, I love both fighters.
Aegraen #1 Fan!
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 11:46 GMT
#41
Important fight here.. Fernandes will win imo
cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
December 31 2011 12:06 GMT
#42
This match isn't even close to being as entertaining as the Barnett match
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
December 31 2011 12:26 GMT
#43
wow X Japan-Rusty Nail for Sakuraba intro! awesome
#1 XellOs fan!
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
December 31 2011 12:31 GMT
#44
Is there another English stream? Bruce Lee died
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
December 31 2011 12:36 GMT
#45
On December 31 2011 21:31 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Is there another English stream? Bruce Lee died


http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/100270/1/watch-dream-nye-2011-:-fedor-emelianenko-vs-satoshi-ishii.html
#1 XellOs fan!
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 12:44 GMT
#46
On December 31 2011 21:36 danmooj1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:31 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Is there another English stream? Bruce Lee died


http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/100270/1/watch-dream-nye-2011-:-fedor-emelianenko-vs-satoshi-ishii.html


Thanks dude!
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
December 31 2011 12:46 GMT
#47
wat
is
this
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 13:07 GMT
#48
Man, Dream is a marathon containing such a wide variety of shows that if you get through you feel like a better person for it.
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
December 31 2011 13:20 GMT
#49
So... I am awake again Going to watch the final fights of Dream.

Any fights that I have missed that I should watch?
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
December 31 2011 13:33 GMT
#50
On December 31 2011 22:20 Baituri wrote:
So... I am awake again Going to watch the final fights of Dream.

Any fights that I have missed that I should watch?


The finals of the Bantamweight GP maybe. I haven't watched every fight though >_>
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 13:38:49
December 31 2011 13:38 GMT
#51
On December 31 2011 22:20 Baituri wrote:
So... I am awake again Going to watch the final fights of Dream.

Any fights that I have missed that I should watch?


the few fights left should be the best ones
#1 XellOs fan!
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
December 31 2011 13:44 GMT
#52
On December 31 2011 22:38 danmooj1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 22:20 Baituri wrote:
So... I am awake again Going to watch the final fights of Dream.

Any fights that I have missed that I should watch?


the few fights left should be the best ones

This one isnt one of them WTF is Inoue thinking? He's not even trying to do anything. He doesnt even jab back
thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 13:50:18
December 31 2011 13:50 GMT
#53
that was disappointing
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
December 31 2011 13:54 GMT
#54
Aoki is my favourite fighter. Hope he can win.
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
December 31 2011 13:58 GMT
#55
Evangelion?
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
December 31 2011 14:03 GMT
#56
On December 31 2011 22:38 danmooj1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 22:20 Baituri wrote:
So... I am awake again Going to watch the final fights of Dream.

Any fights that I have missed that I should watch?


the few fights left should be the best ones

I am watchting the remaining fights ofcourse. (Takaya vs Inoue was horrible...)
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
December 31 2011 14:32 GMT
#57
I went to bed 7 and a half hours ago, the only fights I wanted to see were Noiri and Nagashima
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
December 31 2011 14:32 GMT
#58
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?
#1 XellOs fan!
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 14:38:00
December 31 2011 14:34 GMT
#59
Aoki fights are the best.

On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
December 31 2011 14:42 GMT
#60
that fight was so one sided
hope we see the old Fedor
#1 XellOs fan!
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
December 31 2011 14:44 GMT
#61
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.


that's not true. it happens in the UFC all the time
#1 XellOs fan!
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 14:47:48
December 31 2011 14:47 GMT
#62
On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?


Kitaoka had really really really good rear naked defense that fight. First off a lot of the ground work took place against one of the posts which would gave Aoki a lot less room to change angles to get his arm under Kitaoka's neck, Kitaoka also did a really good job of attacking the hands and wrists, and Kitaoka also made it hard for Aoki to get proper hooks or proper body triangle, when Aoki did get the body triangle he would always turn over towards Aoki's ankle's which would put release a lot of the pressure. There was actually never a rear naked attempt that was close, even though the commentators seemed to think.
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 14:52:17
December 31 2011 14:47 GMT
#63
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.



UFC 140
Hallman defeated Makdessi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:58 of round 1

TUF 14 Finale
Delorme defeated Ferguson via submission (rear-naked choke) at 0:22 of round 3

UFC 138
Perosh defeated Diabaté via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:09 of round 2
Alves defeated Abedi via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:32 of round 1
Barão defeated Pickett via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:09 of round 1

UFC 136
Lauzon defeated Guillard via submission (rear naked choke) at 0:47 of round 1

UFC 135
Jones defeated Jackson via submission (rear naked choke) at 1:14 of round 4
#1 XellOs fan!
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
December 31 2011 14:47 GMT
#64
On December 31 2011 23:44 danmooj1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.


that's not true. it happens in the UFC all the time

Go and see how many times a back gets taken and nothing happens. You pretty much have to give up in a fight to lose to one.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
December 31 2011 14:52 GMT
#65
On December 31 2011 23:47 danmooj1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.



UFC 140
Hallman defeated Makdessi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:58 of round 1

TUF 14 Finale
Delorme defeated Ferguson via submission (rear-naked choke) at 0:22 of round 3

UFC 138
Perosh defeated Diabaté via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:09 of round 2
Alves defeated Abedi via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:32 of round 1
Barão defeated Pickett via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:09 of round 1

Those are all terrible fighters so it doesn't prove much.
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
December 31 2011 14:52 GMT
#66
On December 31 2011 23:47 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:44 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.


that's not true. it happens in the UFC all the time

Go and see how many times a back gets taken and nothing happens. You pretty much have to give up in a fight to lose to one.


Just based on the last few UFC's there's about 1 RNC average for each card
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danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
December 31 2011 14:53 GMT
#67
On December 31 2011 23:52 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:47 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.



UFC 140
Hallman defeated Makdessi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:58 of round 1

TUF 14 Finale
Delorme defeated Ferguson via submission (rear-naked choke) at 0:22 of round 3

UFC 138
Perosh defeated Diabaté via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:09 of round 2
Alves defeated Abedi via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:32 of round 1
Barão defeated Pickett via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:09 of round 1

Those are all terrible fighters so it doesn't prove much.


why not? it's still MMA
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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
December 31 2011 14:55 GMT
#68
On December 31 2011 23:53 danmooj1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:52 J1.au wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:47 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.



UFC 140
Hallman defeated Makdessi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:58 of round 1

TUF 14 Finale
Delorme defeated Ferguson via submission (rear-naked choke) at 0:22 of round 3

UFC 138
Perosh defeated Diabaté via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:09 of round 2
Alves defeated Abedi via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:32 of round 1
Barão defeated Pickett via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:09 of round 1

Those are all terrible fighters so it doesn't prove much.


why not? it's still MMA

I should've said high level MMA. Happy?
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 14:57:30
December 31 2011 14:57 GMT
#69
On December 31 2011 23:55 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:53 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:52 J1.au wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:47 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.



UFC 140
Hallman defeated Makdessi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:58 of round 1

TUF 14 Finale
Delorme defeated Ferguson via submission (rear-naked choke) at 0:22 of round 3

UFC 138
Perosh defeated Diabaté via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:09 of round 2
Alves defeated Abedi via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:32 of round 1
Barão defeated Pickett via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:09 of round 1

Those are all terrible fighters so it doesn't prove much.


why not? it's still MMA

I should've said high level MMA. Happy?


no need to get so defensive. just retorting what you said. but the UFC in general is "high level". those guys can probably beat most of the cans they have in dream
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danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
December 31 2011 14:59 GMT
#70
too easy for Fedor
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Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
December 31 2011 15:00 GMT
#71
Wow that was pretty cool that it was new years just after Fedors fight finished haha
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 15:01:42
December 31 2011 15:01 GMT
#72
On December 31 2011 23:57 danmooj1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:55 J1.au wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:53 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:52 J1.au wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:47 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.



UFC 140
Hallman defeated Makdessi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:58 of round 1

TUF 14 Finale
Delorme defeated Ferguson via submission (rear-naked choke) at 0:22 of round 3

UFC 138
Perosh defeated Diabaté via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:09 of round 2
Alves defeated Abedi via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:32 of round 1
Barão defeated Pickett via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:09 of round 1

Those are all terrible fighters so it doesn't prove much.


why not? it's still MMA

I should've said high level MMA. Happy?


no need to get so defensive. just retorting what you said. but the UFC in general is "high level". those guys can probably beat most of the cans they have in dream

Only the top of the UFC divisions are high level.

I definitely exaggerated with my statement, but come on you have to admit that 99% of the time when a back is taken nothing happens!
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 15:09:06
December 31 2011 15:07 GMT
#73
On January 01 2012 00:01 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 23:57 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:55 J1.au wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:53 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:52 J1.au wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:47 danmooj1 wrote:
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote:
Aoki fights are the best.

On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote:
Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke?

They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days.



UFC 140
Hallman defeated Makdessi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:58 of round 1

TUF 14 Finale
Delorme defeated Ferguson via submission (rear-naked choke) at 0:22 of round 3

UFC 138
Perosh defeated Diabaté via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:09 of round 2
Alves defeated Abedi via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:32 of round 1
Barão defeated Pickett via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:09 of round 1

Those are all terrible fighters so it doesn't prove much.


why not? it's still MMA

I should've said high level MMA. Happy?


no need to get so defensive. just retorting what you said. but the UFC in general is "high level". those guys can probably beat most of the cans they have in dream

Only the top of the UFC divisions are high level.

I definitely exaggerated with my statement, but come on you have to admit that 99% of the time when a back is taken nothing happens!


well I guess I can see what you're saying because rnc is one of the few (the only one I can think of) submissions that can be used by taking someones back and everyone knows that it's coming so all you gotta do is defend that specific choke. where as in the guard or mount there's a lot more options so you're more prone to get submitted by something else
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