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VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
December 31 2011 16:32 GMT
#1181
On January 01 2012 01:09 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:46 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 16:55 cLutZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 13:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:31 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:21 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:20 JohnnyBanana wrote:
lol that was a pretty bad call


Those calls happen to the Heat nearly every game (atleast it did last season)

Ehh... last heat game turned out to be super close because of some goal tending call and a basket never counted for the Heat (the head bounce through the net).

Sure they get calls favouring them a lot, but they also get bullshit calls against them too. I think it's nothing to complain that much about, just fun to point out the calls though

I think people blow the whole "heat get favored calls" thing out of proportion. Fact is, everyone gets these "bad" calls, and it has nothing to do with refs favoring one player or team.

BUTTTT

I will admit, that Lebron and Wade are some of the BEST floppers in the game. That's a fact.


The heat do get more of those calls, because they have more of those players who play the style of "throw myself into the lane and pray" style. Lebron and Wade go to the rim and try to get bailed out at the same rate as Rose, Westbrook, ect, but they also do the "pump fake" then jump into the player move that Paul Pierce does, all the time. So when you have two players on the same team that "draw" a lot of cheap fouls it is going to look bad. The fact is its not the Heat, it is the shitty refs and NBA to blame.


Never really bought into "the system is flawed, let's abuse it" mentality.. sure, the league should do a better job on it, but oh lord how I wouldn't want to see people suspended for trying to sell it like in the previous videoes


Suspended, meh, ejected, yes. And players defiantly abuse it...its like 40% of Paul Pierce's offense.


I would be fine with ejection plus a fine, it's not a basketball skill, so it has nothing to on the court!

Now I'm out for 2011! Happy new year, I wish you all the best and hope you have a wonderful evening! See you in 2012<3
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 31 2011 19:24 GMT
#1182
On January 01 2012 01:09 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 21:46 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 16:55 cLutZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 13:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:31 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:21 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:20 JohnnyBanana wrote:
lol that was a pretty bad call


Those calls happen to the Heat nearly every game (atleast it did last season)

Ehh... last heat game turned out to be super close because of some goal tending call and a basket never counted for the Heat (the head bounce through the net).

Sure they get calls favouring them a lot, but they also get bullshit calls against them too. I think it's nothing to complain that much about, just fun to point out the calls though

I think people blow the whole "heat get favored calls" thing out of proportion. Fact is, everyone gets these "bad" calls, and it has nothing to do with refs favoring one player or team.

BUTTTT

I will admit, that Lebron and Wade are some of the BEST floppers in the game. That's a fact.


The heat do get more of those calls, because they have more of those players who play the style of "throw myself into the lane and pray" style. Lebron and Wade go to the rim and try to get bailed out at the same rate as Rose, Westbrook, ect, but they also do the "pump fake" then jump into the player move that Paul Pierce does, all the time. So when you have two players on the same team that "draw" a lot of cheap fouls it is going to look bad. The fact is its not the Heat, it is the shitty refs and NBA to blame.


Never really bought into "the system is flawed, let's abuse it" mentality.. sure, the league should do a better job on it, but oh lord how I wouldn't want to see people suspended for trying to sell it like in the previous videoes


Suspended, meh, ejected, yes. And players defiantly abuse it...its like 40% of Paul Pierce's offense.


If you guys were paying attention to non lockout changes during the lockout, they changed the rules so that creating contact and then hoisting up shots is no longer a shooting foul (and I posted this).

Second, the league has tried to do something about flopping one or two postseasons ago, but they couldn't figure out a good system to punish it come the regular season. So they let it go.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 31 2011 20:17 GMT
#1183
Chris Paul vs Derrick Rose last night was one hell of a game. CP3 had the upper hand (if counting defense and playmaking) and then Rose just erupted in the 4th quarter with some big shots and crazy passes.

Kind of feel bad for the Clippers fan base, because as good as they are offensively there were some bad defensive mistakes. Absolutely HORRIBLE. There were a couple of possessions where Rose would be on the other side of the court, and Mo Williams or Caron Butler would be sagging TOWARDS him (wtf?) and Rose would make a cross court pass to an open Deng or Hamilton for a bomb.

Blake Griffin's defense is absolutely abysmal. Talented offensively, but he's got work to do defensively. Chris Paul's defense on Rose was solid at points, Rose's defense on Paul left a lot to be desired but he never got completely lost on any plays.

The Bulls depth was huge this game. Clippers didn't even rest Blake and CP3 at some points which is kind of weird, considering the Clippers have Foye and Williams to back up CP3. Noah and Boozer still play somewhat weird together defensively but that could have been more so limited ability to stop Blake anywhere near the basket.

Luol Deng is still underrated, Rip looked MUCH better this game but I think it had a lot to do with the Clippers' defense. With no Chauncey Billups or Eric Gordon (lol) the lack of a secondary creator on offense killed LA when CP3 had to cool off.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
December 31 2011 21:10 GMT
#1184
On January 01 2012 04:24 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 01:09 cLutZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:46 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 16:55 cLutZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 13:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:31 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:21 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:20 JohnnyBanana wrote:
lol that was a pretty bad call


Those calls happen to the Heat nearly every game (atleast it did last season)

Ehh... last heat game turned out to be super close because of some goal tending call and a basket never counted for the Heat (the head bounce through the net).

Sure they get calls favouring them a lot, but they also get bullshit calls against them too. I think it's nothing to complain that much about, just fun to point out the calls though

I think people blow the whole "heat get favored calls" thing out of proportion. Fact is, everyone gets these "bad" calls, and it has nothing to do with refs favoring one player or team.

BUTTTT

I will admit, that Lebron and Wade are some of the BEST floppers in the game. That's a fact.


The heat do get more of those calls, because they have more of those players who play the style of "throw myself into the lane and pray" style. Lebron and Wade go to the rim and try to get bailed out at the same rate as Rose, Westbrook, ect, but they also do the "pump fake" then jump into the player move that Paul Pierce does, all the time. So when you have two players on the same team that "draw" a lot of cheap fouls it is going to look bad. The fact is its not the Heat, it is the shitty refs and NBA to blame.


Never really bought into "the system is flawed, let's abuse it" mentality.. sure, the league should do a better job on it, but oh lord how I wouldn't want to see people suspended for trying to sell it like in the previous videoes


Suspended, meh, ejected, yes. And players defiantly abuse it...its like 40% of Paul Pierce's offense.


If you guys were paying attention to non lockout changes during the lockout, they changed the rules so that creating contact and then hoisting up shots is no longer a shooting foul (and I posted this).

Second, the league has tried to do something about flopping one or two postseasons ago, but they couldn't figure out a good system to punish it come the regular season. So they let it go.


I believe the rule is now that you are no longer to go sideways to create contact, but you are still allowed to go forwards. So if you get them in the air coming at you, you can still get the call, but if they are beside you and you jump sideways into them the refs won't call it.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 31 2011 21:13 GMT
#1185
Watching Denver vs LA, and I kind of want LA to win because Al Harrington is so unsightly on offense. Don't even think I saw him pass the ball back once yet.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 22:48:52
December 31 2011 22:48 GMT
#1186
Wow what an ending so far. Denver got some WIDE open 3s and Gallo just choked. Didn't even hit backboard on one of those shots.

Ty Lawson missed 2 Free Throws, Nene missed a dunk, Al Harrington playing defense. So many bad moments for Denver.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 31 2011 22:50 GMT
#1187
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKE!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
December 31 2011 22:50 GMT
#1188
DANILO WHY YOU NO DUNK BALL?
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
December 31 2011 22:51 GMT
#1189
Pretty crazy game with everyone choking, hahaha.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 31 2011 23:05 GMT
#1190
On January 01 2012 04:24 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 01:09 cLutZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:46 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 16:55 cLutZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 13:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:31 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:21 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:20 JohnnyBanana wrote:
lol that was a pretty bad call


Those calls happen to the Heat nearly every game (atleast it did last season)

Ehh... last heat game turned out to be super close because of some goal tending call and a basket never counted for the Heat (the head bounce through the net).

Sure they get calls favouring them a lot, but they also get bullshit calls against them too. I think it's nothing to complain that much about, just fun to point out the calls though

I think people blow the whole "heat get favored calls" thing out of proportion. Fact is, everyone gets these "bad" calls, and it has nothing to do with refs favoring one player or team.

BUTTTT

I will admit, that Lebron and Wade are some of the BEST floppers in the game. That's a fact.


The heat do get more of those calls, because they have more of those players who play the style of "throw myself into the lane and pray" style. Lebron and Wade go to the rim and try to get bailed out at the same rate as Rose, Westbrook, ect, but they also do the "pump fake" then jump into the player move that Paul Pierce does, all the time. So when you have two players on the same team that "draw" a lot of cheap fouls it is going to look bad. The fact is its not the Heat, it is the shitty refs and NBA to blame.


Never really bought into "the system is flawed, let's abuse it" mentality.. sure, the league should do a better job on it, but oh lord how I wouldn't want to see people suspended for trying to sell it like in the previous videoes


Suspended, meh, ejected, yes. And players defiantly abuse it...its like 40% of Paul Pierce's offense.


If you guys were paying attention to non lockout changes during the lockout, they changed the rules so that creating contact and then hoisting up shots is no longer a shooting foul (and I posted this).

Second, the league has tried to do something about flopping one or two postseasons ago, but they couldn't figure out a good system to punish it come the regular season. So they let it go.


Even a non-shooting foul is worth quite a bit.
Freeeeeeedom
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 31 2011 23:59 GMT
#1191
poor danilo, what a miss.

make-or-break year for bynum, let's see if he can repeat tonight's effort consistently. I don't think he can get as many points but let's see in everything else.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
January 01 2012 03:07 GMT
#1192
chandler is just abusing chuck hayes

i always laugh when chuck hayes free throws, so weird haha
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VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
January 01 2012 13:57 GMT
#1193
On January 01 2012 04:24 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 01:09 cLutZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 21:46 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 16:55 cLutZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 13:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:31 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:21 VENDIZ wrote:
On December 31 2011 12:20 JohnnyBanana wrote:
lol that was a pretty bad call


Those calls happen to the Heat nearly every game (atleast it did last season)

Ehh... last heat game turned out to be super close because of some goal tending call and a basket never counted for the Heat (the head bounce through the net).

Sure they get calls favouring them a lot, but they also get bullshit calls against them too. I think it's nothing to complain that much about, just fun to point out the calls though

I think people blow the whole "heat get favored calls" thing out of proportion. Fact is, everyone gets these "bad" calls, and it has nothing to do with refs favoring one player or team.

BUTTTT

I will admit, that Lebron and Wade are some of the BEST floppers in the game. That's a fact.


The heat do get more of those calls, because they have more of those players who play the style of "throw myself into the lane and pray" style. Lebron and Wade go to the rim and try to get bailed out at the same rate as Rose, Westbrook, ect, but they also do the "pump fake" then jump into the player move that Paul Pierce does, all the time. So when you have two players on the same team that "draw" a lot of cheap fouls it is going to look bad. The fact is its not the Heat, it is the shitty refs and NBA to blame.


Never really bought into "the system is flawed, let's abuse it" mentality.. sure, the league should do a better job on it, but oh lord how I wouldn't want to see people suspended for trying to sell it like in the previous videoes


Suspended, meh, ejected, yes. And players defiantly abuse it...its like 40% of Paul Pierce's offense.


If you guys were paying attention to non lockout changes during the lockout, they changed the rules so that creating contact and then hoisting up shots is no longer a shooting foul (and I posted this).

Second, the league has tried to do something about flopping one or two postseasons ago, but they couldn't figure out a good system to punish it come the regular season. So they let it go.


Creating contact after the shot etc =/= flopping?! Or have am I missing something here?
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
JeremyVH
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14 Posts
January 01 2012 14:07 GMT
#1194
Raptor are playing playoff quality basketball. Too bad my man, Boy Bay Jared Bayless is out with a sprained ankle. We win if we pound the rock and play tough defense. Dwayne Casey for president 2012
Where your curly moustache at
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 01 2012 18:13 GMT
#1195
http://www.backpicks.com/2011/03/15/defensive-errors/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 01 2012 19:36 GMT
#1196
On January 02 2012 03:13 Ace wrote:
http://www.backpicks.com/2011/03/15/defensive-errors/


Tim Duncan having the fewest errors makes sense...but then we get 3 Miami Heat in a row including guys who I was not aware could still move. Suspicious.
Freeeeeeedom
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 01 2012 19:51 GMT
#1197
It makes sense - Eddie House has a low # of possessions. The author should have put only 1,000+ possession defensive players on it though.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
January 01 2012 20:02 GMT
#1198
On January 01 2012 12:07 icystorage wrote:
chandler is just abusing chuck hayes

i always laugh when chuck hayes free throws, so weird haha

That's one thing I really miss about Shaq. His free throw motion was so ridiculous.
Uff Da
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
January 01 2012 20:07 GMT
#1199
Lol, Blake never rotates. I'm surprised he's only missed 2(?) assignments. He guards the rim okayish but his help defense is really crappy. I guess his man defense is atrocious too, according to this site.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 01 2012 21:06 GMT
#1200
On January 02 2012 04:51 Ace wrote:
It makes sense - Eddie House has a low # of possessions. The author should have put only 1,000+ possession defensive players on it though.


Only Bryant and Wade had 1000+ and it looks like the stats are per 100 possessions.
Freeeeeeedom
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