When Skyrim comes out (11/11/11) I'll be streaming it the full day it comes out (Friday) as well as the weekend. I start on: 11/11/11 at 11:00 AM PST. I also plan on making a Lets Play! series on it.
I decided to make things a bit more interesting for the playthrough though. I wanted to have everyone give a little bit of input on how they would like to see the runthrough be done! Inspired a bit by Gigaflop's play-by-play thread.
You'll decide how I play the first run-through! Well, character-wise at least.
So Far...
Trump is a Chaotic Good Dark Elf Rogue who also dabbles in a bit of magic. He doesn't constantly break the law, but doesn't see much value in it. His conscience is his own guide. Trump focuses on making sure everybody has their individual rights and freedoms respected and will help those who ask for it as he tries to make the world a better place in his own views.
His combat style is to initially sneak up to approach an enemy and stab it with a magically enhanced dagger. This is followed by a bit of debuffing spells in order to weaken the monster in order to fight it.
His primary skills are: Sneak, Light Armor, One-Handed, Lockpicking, Alchemy, Enchanting, and Smithing. His secondary skills are: All magical skills, Pickpocket, Speech.
1) Alignment: CHAOTIC 2) Alignment: GOOD 3) Combat Opening: SNEAK 4) Combat Opening: STAB 5) Magic Use: SOME 6) Race: DARK ELF
Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include closed-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, judgmentalness, and a lack of adaptability. Those who consciously promote lawfulness say that only lawful behavior creates a society in which people can depend on each other and make the right decisions in full confidence that others will act as they should.
Chaos implies freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. On the downside, chaos can include recklessness, resentment toward legitimate authority, arbitrary actions, and irresponsibility. Those who promote chaotic behavior say that only unfettered personal freedom allows people to express themselves fully and lets society benefit from the potential that its individuals have within them.
Someone who is neutral with respect to law and chaos has a normal respect for authority and feels neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They are honest but can be tempted into lying or deceiving others.
Poll: What will be Trump's Alignment Outlook?
Chaotic (112)
59%
Neutral (43)
23%
Lawful (34)
18%
189 total votes
Your vote: What will be Trump's Alignment Outlook?
Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.
Evil implies harming, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient or if it can be set up. Others actively pursue evil, killing for sport or out of duty to some malevolent deity or master.
People who are neutral with respect to good and evil have compunctions against killing the innocent but lack the commitment to make sacrifices to protect or help others. Neutral people are committed to others by personal relationships.
These alignments will be in play whenever the adventurer must make a choice. Or even in daily activities, conversation responses, etc. This may be the biggest poll in how the game is played.
Third Poll: Combat Opener Poll Ends: Thursday, 7 PM PST
I've kept the poll a bit vague and have done this instead of a "use of magic" poll (which could really skew results) on the advice of PrinceXizor.
This poll basically represents MAGIC vs PHYSICAL vs STEALTH but even more vague. Let me explain the choices a bit.
"Shoot the enemy from afar" (MAGIC or PHYSICAL Long-Range) basically means start off combat either with a long-range magical spell or with a bow and arrow. The next poll would be whether shooting from afar means with a bow or with a spell. It would also have a (continue to try to stay at long-range / close to close combat after initial spells) option.
"Charge the enemy for close combat" (MAGIC or PHYSICAL Short-Range) basically means run up to the enemy and either use short-range magical spells (touch spells) or swing with some sort of weapon. The next poll would be asking for either spells, 2-handed weapon or dual wield, or sword & shield.
"Use stealth for a sneak attack" (STEALTH PHYSICAL Short or Long Range) basically means that the character will make use of the sneak ability to get the jump on an opponent and do bonus damage with a sneak attack. This means either with a bow from afar or with a weapon up close. Note that spells do not get sneak attack damage.
Poll: What is Trump's Combat Opener?
Use stealth for a sneak attack. (77)
40%
Charge the enemy for close-combat. (59)
30%
Shoot the enemy from afar. (58)
30%
194 total votes
Your vote: What is Trump's Combat Opener?
(Vote): Shoot the enemy from afar. (Vote): Charge the enemy for close-combat. (Vote): Use stealth for a sneak attack.
This one is pretty self explanatory. Combat has been decided will be started by sneaking around. Will Trump walk up to to the monster and stab it in the back, or fire a shot off from the shadows?
Poll: What sort of Sneak Attack to start combat?
Stab at Melee Range (59)
53%
Shoot at range with Bow (52)
47%
111 total votes
Your vote: What sort of Sneak Attack to start combat?
(Vote): Stab at Melee Range (Vote): Shoot at range with Bow
Fifth Poll: Use of Magic Poll Ends: November 8, 7 PM PST
This next poll deals with magic. Magic is vast and various. There are five main schools of magic. Magic can: Deal Damage, Buff, Debuff, Heal, Cure, Summon, Trap, Charm, and a variety of other things.
You might have thought that given that the character starts combat by sneaking and stabbing, this would be easy. A stealth based "thief/assassin" type character! ezpz right? But here, there's the opportunity to see how much magic the thief/assassin will use, and perhaps even...make a...stealthy mage? what?
NO MAGIC
The first is a purely physical character with no (casted) magic. Magic isn't essential. This would be your traditional stealthy character wielding two daggers, perhaps enchanted, and sneaking up behind monsters and just stabbing them to death directly. As a best guess, this would look something like this setup...
SOME MAGIC
The second is a sneaky character aided with magic. With magic, the sneaky character could sneak easier with invisibility spells. He could opportunistically buff himself or debuff enemies. Certainly, the addition of some magic would also weaken the "core" of the character as a stealth character. The flexibility of magic as well as potential strengths from it such as enchanting the dagger, paralyzing creatures if your first shot doesn't kill them, etc could be interesting.
LOTS OF MAGIC
The third is a mage. This gets into unusual territory since combat is started by sneaking up to something and stabbing them. This would mean that first stab would be enchanted as much as possible, and then the dagger would be put away to cast spells from close range. Not a very common type of character I'm sure, but that's the beauty of no set classes.
Poll: How much magic should Trump use?
Some Magic (52)
55%
Lots of Magic (23)
24%
No Magic (19)
20%
94 total votes
Your vote: How much magic should Trump use?
(Vote): No Magic (Vote): Some Magic (Vote): Lots of Magic
What race will Trump play? Even though each race does have a specialty in skillset (which is why I made the race selection final, since everyone could see which skills I would focus on), that doesn't mean that the race which is "good" at those skills has to be chosen.
Sometimes, you just gotta choose a certain race because that race is...cool!
For the "statistics" behind each race though, here's a cool graph and here's a link to the powers and bonuses of these races. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Races
1) Alignment Outlook (Lawful, Neutral, Chaotic) 2) Alignment Outlook (Good, Neutral, Evil) 3) Combat Style (shoot from afar, close combat, stealth) 4) Combat Style 2 (depending on previous poll, narrowing possibilities) 5) Use of Magic / General Skill Tree 6) Race
The first polls are pretty important so they'll both go a little longer. I swear to roleplay through the alignment outlook.
And I'm sure there will be more polls! I'm taking advice on what else to decide upon as well.
Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include closed-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, judgmentalness, and a lack of adaptability. Those who consciously promote lawfulness say that only lawful behavior creates a society in which people can depend on each other and make the right decisions in full confidence that others will act as they should.
Chaos implies freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. On the downside, chaos can include recklessness, resentment toward legitimate authority, arbitrary actions, and irresponsibility. Those who promote chaotic behavior say that only unfettered personal freedom allows people to express themselves fully and lets society benefit from the potential that its individuals have within them.
Someone who is neutral with respect to law and chaos has a normal respect for authority and feels neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They are honest but can be tempted into lying or deceiving others.
Poll: What will be Trump's Alignment Outlook?
Chaotic (112)
59%
Neutral (43)
23%
Lawful (34)
18%
189 total votes
Your vote: What will be Trump's Alignment Outlook?
I think Chaotic is the way to go. If it was another province, I would be giving a different answer -- but given the circumstances, Chaotic makes the most sense. We are, for all intents and purposes, a land of psuedo-barbarians and are fighting dragons in the frozen north. There is not much sense of the Lawful character around here. Neutral can be argued, but I must go with Chaotic.
Excited for this! I would watch, but I'll be too busy playing myself and killing mudcrabs.
Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.
Evil implies harming, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient or if it can be set up. Others actively pursue evil, killing for sport or out of duty to some malevolent deity or master.
People who are neutral with respect to good and evil have compunctions against killing the innocent but lack the commitment to make sacrifices to protect or help others. Neutral people are committed to others by personal relationships.
These alignments will be in play whenever the adventurer must make a choice. Or even in daily activities, conversation responses, etc. This may be the biggest poll in how the game is played.
On October 31 2011 04:43 Endymion wrote: you're going to die to a sewer rat trump.
holy bad manner
I agree. But its only because you have to play so manner that you'll be conflicted. Its a life you'll be ending, your character can't handle that because you have to be so just. :D I may be tuning in, however it'll be hard to watch whilst playing myself. Please upload VODs somewheres. ^^
Rape and pillage every village. Make them cheer, make them fear, let them know that you are here. Let your eyes burn with rage, spare noone of any age. Let's be evil today - let's be evil every day. So remember to vote the right way, or there will be hell to pay.
A bit late on closing out the Lawful vs Chaotic poll, but it was quite a runaway.
It's worth mentioning that my plan on the polls was pretty purposeful since knowing what alignment I'm going into may affect my fighting style and such. And knowing if I'm lawful or chaotic might decide if people choose good or evil (or neutral.)
This is pretty neck and neck so far. Good had a lead early, now Evil has overtaken.
In other news, I've realized that before the combat polls, I should put up an extent of magic poll since magic will likely have a big (or no) impact on combat.
From what I understand you can now "dual wield" magic, so the poll will probably look something like...
Magic:
Primary (Dual-Wield Magic) - mage Some (Single-Wield Magic / Some Magic) - battlemage, paladin, cleric, etc None (No Magic) - warrior, thief, assassin, etc
On November 02 2011 06:37 Meki wrote: Does that mean you stop streaming sc2 or just less than you do normally? Can't live without watching Trump playing sc2! <3
it means for 3 days I'm going to let the roleplaying wild side of me loose! rawr~
epic closeness in vote right now. good now overtaking evil by just a litle bit
On November 02 2011 06:37 Meki wrote: Does that mean you stop streaming sc2 or just less than you do normally? Can't live without watching Trump playing sc2! <3
it means for 3 days I'm going to let the roleplaying wild side of me loose! rawr~
epic closeness in vote right now. good now overtaking evil by just a litle bit
The poll is useless though, we all know the evil candidate is going to stuff the ballot box.
On November 01 2011 09:40 Trump wrote: This is pretty neck and neck so far. Good had a lead early, now Evil has overtaken.
In other news, I've realized that before the combat polls, I should put up an extent of magic poll since magic will likely have a big (or no) impact on combat.
From what I understand you can now "dual wield" magic, so the poll will probably look something like...
Magic:
Primary (Dual-Wield Magic) - mage Some (Single-Wield Magic / Some Magic) - battlemage, paladin, cleric, etc None (No Magic) - warrior, thief, assassin, etc
Should Organize the poll like:
Stealth, Physical, Magical
secondary poll
Pure + Magic + Stealth + Physical
so we vote on wanting one of the three ways of combat, and then vote on whether we want a secondary form.
Third Poll: Combat Opener Poll Ends: Thursday, 7 PM PST
I've kept the poll a bit vague and have done this instead of a "use of magic" poll (which could really skew results) on the advice of PrinceXizor.
This poll basically represents MAGIC vs PHYSICAL vs STEALTH but even more vague. Let me explain the choices a bit.
"Shoot the enemy from afar" (MAGIC or PHYSICAL Long-Range) basically means start off combat either with a long-range magical spell or with a bow and arrow. The next poll would be whether shooting from afar means with a bow or with a spell. It would also have a (continue to try to stay at long-range / close to close combat after initial spells) option.
"Charge the enemy for close combat" (MAGIC or PHYSICAL Short-Range) basically means run up to the enemy and either use short-range magical spells (touch spells) or swing with some sort of weapon. The next poll would be asking for either spells, 2-handed weapon or dual wield, or sword & shield.
"Use stealth for a sneak attack" (STEALTH PHYSICAL Short or Long Range) basically means that the character will make use of the sneak ability to get the jump on an opponent and do bonus damage with a sneak attack. This means either with a bow from afar or with a weapon up close. Note that spells do not get sneak attack damage.
Poll: What is Trump's Combat Opener?
Use stealth for a sneak attack. (77)
40%
Charge the enemy for close-combat. (59)
30%
Shoot the enemy from afar. (58)
30%
194 total votes
Your vote: What is Trump's Combat Opener?
(Vote): Shoot the enemy from afar. (Vote): Charge the enemy for close-combat. (Vote): Use stealth for a sneak attack.
I should also of course mention that Chaotic Good alignment has won out (by a narrow margin!) Hooray for:
Chaotic Good Chaotic Good is known as the "Beatific," "Rebel," or "Cynic" alignment. A Chaotic Good character favors change for a greater good, disdains bureaucratic organizations that get in the way of social improvement, and places a high value on personal freedom, not only for oneself, but for others as well. They always intend to do the right thing, but their methods are generally disorganized and often out of alignment with the rest of society. They may create conflict in a team if they feel they are being pushed around, and often view extensive organization and planning as pointless, preferring to improvise. Robin Hood, Starbuck from Battlestar Galactica, and Malcolm Reynolds from Firefly are examples of Chaotic Good individuals
Of course, the greatest Chaotic Good that people will be familiar with in the Starcraft 2 universe is good ol' Jim Raynor.
Lets be realistic, do we want him to play the game efficiently, or do we want to watch him blindly run into a dragon as an insane vigilante? The answer is the second one, my vote for the rush down!
Im not sure why trump really needs to get insanely specific with these polls. I see a few of them as good such as alignment outlook and race but isn't it more fun for us to watch Trump do what he thinks is best. If he gets into a battle and thinks ranged combat would be best then go for it. If he just wants to get up close and personal or feels like a stealth attack then just go for it. Im not too much a fan on the idea as going into exactly how he should play the game. They're shouldn't be an obligation to do a certain thing. I dunno just my opinion, still going to be great fun watching trump play !
On November 03 2011 05:52 Hydrox911 wrote: Im not sure why trump really needs to get insanely specific with these polls. I see a few of them as good such as alignment outlook and race but isn't it more fun for us to watch Trump do what he thinks is best. If he gets into a battle and thinks ranged combat would be best then go for it. If he just wants to get up close and personal or feels like a stealth attack then just go for it. Im not too much a fan on the idea as going into exactly how he should play the game. They're shouldn't be an obligation to do a certain thing. I dunno just my opinion, still going to be great fun watching trump play !
Any "style" is effective. I am indifferent to any of them. So putting it to a poll is fun! Yay!
It's also not like people watching are keeping tally and marking trump off for not doing everything 100% perfect to the polls.
They're mostly just for general trends and ideas for the overall feel of the character. I'm also going to be playing a shit ton that weekend, and prolly won't even open up the internet once for days....but I will be sure to watch all the vods of you playing after I've gotten my initial fix in for myself.
I hope our two adventures are completely different!
On October 31 2011 08:45 HellRoxYa wrote: Rape and pillage every village. Make them cheer, make them fear, let them know that you are here. Let your eyes burn with rage, spare noone of any age. Let's be evil today - let's be evil every day. So remember to vote the right way, or there will be hell to pay.
this. then complete main quest and save the world.
This one is pretty self explanatory. Combat has been decided will be started by sneaking around. Will Trump walk up to to the monster and stab it in the back, or fire a shot off from the shadows?
Poll: What sort of Sneak Attack to start combat?
Stab at Melee Range (59)
53%
Shoot at range with Bow (52)
47%
111 total votes
Your vote: What sort of Sneak Attack to start combat?
(Vote): Stab at Melee Range (Vote): Shoot at range with Bow
Stab at Melee wins...with a small 6 vote margin! Now...time for a bit of a weird turn. We talk about magic, we talk about skills a bit.
Fifth Poll: Use of Magic Poll Ends: November 8, 7 PM PST
This next poll deals with magic. Magic is vast and various. There are five main schools of magic. Magic can: Deal Damage, Buff, Debuff, Heal, Cure, Summon, Trap, Charm, and a variety of other things.
You might have thought that given that the character starts combat by sneaking and stabbing, this would be easy. A stealth based "thief/assassin" type character! ezpz right? But here, there's the opportunity to see how much magic the thief/assassin will use, and perhaps even...make a...stealthy mage? what?
NO MAGIC
The first is a purely physical character with no (casted) magic. Magic isn't essential. This would be your traditional stealthy character wielding two daggers, perhaps enchanted, and sneaking up behind monsters and just stabbing them to death directly. As a best guess, this would look something like this setup...
SOME MAGIC
The second is a sneaky character aided with magic. With magic, the sneaky character could sneak easier with invisibility spells. He could opportunistically buff himself or debuff enemies. Certainly, the addition of some magic would also weaken the "core" of the character as a stealth character. The flexibility of magic as well as potential strengths from it such as enchanting the dagger, paralyzing creatures if your first shot doesn't kill them, etc could be interesting.
LOTS OF MAGIC
The third is a mage. This gets into unusual territory since combat is started by sneaking up to something and stabbing them. This would mean that first stab would be enchanted as much as possible, and then the dagger would be put away to cast spells from close range. Not a very common type of character I'm sure, but that's the beauty of no set classes.
Poll: How much magic should Trump use?
Some Magic (52)
55%
Lots of Magic (23)
24%
No Magic (19)
20%
94 total votes
Your vote: How much magic should Trump use?
(Vote): No Magic (Vote): Some Magic (Vote): Lots of Magic
On November 07 2011 17:56 Zanno wrote: the elder scrolls games have all been set up so that absolutely need to use some magic eventually, just not necessarily destruction magic
unless they've completely reworked some of the core gameplay concepts, you're not gonna get very far without enchanting and soul trap, man
EDITED RESPONSE.
Yes, "no magic" means no soul trap / no enchanting actually.
I think it's pretty obvious that enchanting is not a must to "get far." I would participate in the other two "crafting skills" without magic - armoring and alchemy.
What race will Trump play? Even though each race does have a specialty in skillset (which is why I made the race selection final, since everyone could see which skills I would focus on), that doesn't mean that the race which is "good" at those skills has to be chosen.
To remind, here is the Trump character:
Trump is a Chaotic Good Rogue who also dabbles in a bit of magic. He doesn't constantly break the law, but doesn't see much value in it. His conscience is his own guide. Trump focuses on making sure everybody has their individual rights and freedoms respected and will help those who ask for it as he tries to make the world a better place in his own views.
His combat style is to initially sneak up to approach an enemy and stab it with a magically enhanced dagger. This is followed by a bit of debuffing spells in order to weaken the monster in order to fight it.
His primary skills are: Sneak, Light Armor, One-Handed, Lockpicking, Alchemy, Enchanting, and Smithing. His secondary skills are: All magical skills, Pickpocket, Speech.
Sometimes, you just gotta choose a certain race because that race is...cool!
For the "statistics" behind each race though, here's a cool graph and here's a link to the powers and bonuses of these races. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Races
the equivalent of NCR vs Caesar in FONV, except it's a lawful vs chaotic choice from what it sounds like, there's really no details yet since it's later in the game
Anyway, plan on watching this after my own playthrough since I can't run the PC version and want to see the awesome graphics.
I've actually kept myself pretty unspoiled and I don't even really understand that is, but one can assume that I'll make the choices according to an "internal conscience" to whatever path will do the greatest good for "the people." laws be damned.
aw man SICK TRUMP!!!! I was really hoping someone would do that ! I saw the previous thread about morrow wind and thought it would be so cool if someone did that for skyrim, someone.. just someone BUT ITS NOT JUST SOMEONE ITS MOTHAFUCKIN' TRUMP YO!
On November 10 2011 07:06 peruka wrote: Go Dark Elf.
Love u Trump :D
<3
As of this moment, Dark Elf is leading in the polls. But other polls have proven that the leader doesn't stay the leader very often!
At this time tomorrow, I'll likely have installed Skyrim and be excitedly asleep to wake up streaming it in the morning.
15 hours to poll close. 22 hours to midnight purchase of skyrim! 31 hours until I start streaming skyrim and I'm sure many other gamers will have already started their marathon as well.
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