EPTI know this is a pretty tall order to ask, but any ideas? TL knows their competitive games after all!
Good 1v1 competitive game? (That isn't Starcraft)
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Salivanth
Australia1071 Posts
I know this is a pretty tall order to ask, but any ideas? TL knows their competitive games after all! | ||
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gosuMalicE
Canada676 Posts
idk me and my friends used to play everything with a scoreboard including geometry wars, 1945:Strikers 2/3, donkey kong, etc, competitively (high score setting/beating). Get creative. | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
GGPO: platform for old fighting games, free Netstorm: 1v1, free, only a very small community | ||
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Grettin
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humbre
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
Also Trackmania Nations, it's not neccessarily 1v1, but it's not a team game either. | ||
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frontliner2
Netherlands844 Posts
It's a MP remake of the 1992 classic FREE | ||
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ChinaLifeXXL
United States365 Posts
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Duka08
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antilyon
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On September 06 2011 22:27 Grettin wrote: Chess and Quake. On September 06 2011 23:25 ChinaLifeXXL wrote: Isn't Backgammon 2 player? Also, Cribbage. Although those are good games, he said that real-time is preferable. Again, I second NetStorm. It's a fantastic RTS. You'll have lots of fun playing 1v1 and then there's a competitive scene when you feel like it. In addition, there are quite a few Australian players. Edit: It's also free. | ||
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buhhy
United States1113 Posts
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
3 metric fucktons of memorization though. | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
Team Fortress 2 is now free to play | ||
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Ideas
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Bacillus
Finland1918 Posts
I tried to learn the dueling maybe 6 months ago, but it was really difficult to start improving as most opponents were way above my level and even then I didn't find matches quick enough to get consistent improvement going. I don't mind getting totally outplayed, but it's really bothersome if you can't find enough practice matches to close the gap. | ||
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PeaNuT_T
Sweden326 Posts
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hotbreakfest
United States145 Posts
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WeeKeong
United States282 Posts
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
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Scio
Germany522 Posts
On September 06 2011 23:42 Ideas wrote: Almost any of the relic RTSs: company of heroes, dawn of war 2, etc Company of Heroes is tons of fun. I really recommend it it has a ladder for 1v1 2v2 and there are still enough people active that u will find a game in like 1 minute. Its also easy to learn and with sc/sc2 mechanics you can easily handle everything the game has to offer to crush your oponents. You can play up to 4 factions with are not perfectly balanced but once you figure out how to counter some lame builds you should be good to go. I gotta admit though that its quite random.... basically everything from simple engaging of two unit groups to throwing grenades or tank fire is pretty lucky sometimes and can get you rage in some moments. Overall if you are looking for some freshness( is that a word?) from your sc2 routine that is a pretty good choice. I would rate it like 8,5/10 overall edit: forgot to mention its not free but u can get the main game and the first expansion (together its called gold edition or something) at steam for like 10 euro. The second expansion is crap anyways and will only unlock some units you dont really need (units you can replace older units with but doesnt have a big impact on the game) and some gamemodes that after playing them 2-3 times get boring pretty fast. (3 gamemodes but not sure) | ||
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Broodie
Canada832 Posts
Tekken 6 is right there with it baby, you wont be saddened by either of these 999% guaranteed I wouldnt trust the slow imba mk series | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On September 08 2011 19:41 Broodie wrote: street fighter alpha 3 third strike is hands down the very best Tekken 6 is right there with it baby, you wont be saddened by either of these 999% guaranteed I wouldnt trust the slow imba mk series SFA and 3rd strike have nothing to do with each other >_> Just sayin'. | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
or you 2 can go old school and get Warcraft 3 , its pretty cheap these days , and still alot of players on ladder. | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
On September 08 2011 20:29 Tchado wrote: I would recommend Dawn of War 2 : Retribution , it has some minor online tournaments , you can still find alot of players to play with on steam , 1v1 is great , 2v2 is tons of fun , and its real time strategy , not free though. Horrible game, horrible community full of fanboys and tryhards (if there still is anyone around at all). Dont waste your time/money on this. Regarding the genre its closer to a squad based game of tag than an RTS. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On September 07 2011 01:33 Scio wrote: Company of Heroes is tons of fun. I really recommend it it has a ladder for 1v1 2v2 and there are still enough people active that u will find a game in like 1 minute. Its also easy to learn and with sc/sc2 mechanics you can easily handle everything the game has to offer to crush your oponents. You can play up to 4 factions with are not perfectly balanced but once you figure out how to counter some lame builds you should be good to go. I gotta admit though that its quite random.... basically everything from simple engaging of two unit groups to throwing grenades or tank fire is pretty lucky sometimes and can get you rage in some moments. Overall if you are looking for some freshness( is that a word?) from your sc2 routine that is a pretty good choice. I would rate it like 8,5/10 overall This is my biggest problem with the game, it's so fucking awesome but then a whole Squad of units gets oneshotted by the first artillery shell without a chance of retreating... God... so frustrating | ||
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OoFuzer
Chile436 Posts
- RTS Game. - High competitive scene. - Elo Rating. - You can play 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4. - Lots of clans, you can enter one and train with your partners. - Lots of clan leagues and tournaments - Active Community. - Free www.aoczone.net -> Main community www.voobly.com -> Online plataform ~1000 players online now, ~2k on weekends ask whatever you want if you need help! | ||
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Ruscour
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smogon.com | ||
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Salivanth
Australia1071 Posts
So many memories, man it'll be a headspin to try and play that game competitively when I used to just fuck around in campaign when I had no idea how to play RTS's. (More than 1 barracks? Why would I want that when I can make all the troops I want out of one!) | ||
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OoFuzer
Chile436 Posts
Nowdays World Clan League tournament is running, its on Grand Finals Stage! lots of expectations. | ||
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Scio
Germany522 Posts
On September 08 2011 21:08 ain wrote: Horrible game, horrible community full of fanboys and tryhards (if there still is anyone around at all). Dont waste your time/money on this. Regarding the genre its closer to a squad based game of tag than an RTS. How cancel "squad based" and "RTS" each other out at all? Its just both. | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:45 Scio wrote: How cancel "squad based" and "RTS" each other out at all? Its just both. If you'd ready carefully you'd notice that that is not my point at all. | ||
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ForgottenOne
Romania236 Posts
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On September 08 2011 21:08 ain wrote: Horrible game, horrible community full of fanboys and tryhards (if there still is anyone around at all). Dont waste your time/money on this. Regarding the genre its closer to a squad based game of tag than an RTS. I have no idea what you are talking about , but you are entitled to your opinion . | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:07 Ruscour wrote: Competitive Pokemon, takes a lot of study and mental play but very rewarding strategy game. smogon.com Second this, the 5th gen emultator is: pokemon-online.eu I believe | ||
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Th1rdEye
United States1074 Posts
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Scio
Germany522 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:52 ain wrote: If you'd ready carefully you'd notice that that is not my point at all. If by "your point" you mean bashing DoW then yea i noticed that but it still doesnt mean its more of a squad based game than an RTS but hey i dont really want to discuss that stuff since its pretty meaningless anyways so i guess next time i will just add a smiley at the end of my comment so it doesnt come over as an insult or something | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
In no particular order: - Last Blade 2 - King of Fighters 98 - any Street Fighter these games are 100% skill based, easy to pick up, awesome to watch, the whole package. Have fun! Or you can go train MMA and break your best friend's nose ^_^ | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
On September 09 2011 02:09 Scio wrote: If by "your point" you mean bashing DoW then yea i noticed that but it still doesnt mean its more of a squad based game than an RTS but hey i dont really want to discuss that stuff since its pretty meaningless anyways so i guess next time i will just add a smiley at the end of my comment so it doesnt come over as an insult or something I'm not insulted by any means. You just seem to have trouble understanding the meaning of written words. | ||
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Scio
Germany522 Posts
On September 09 2011 02:30 ain wrote: I'm not insulted by any means. You just seem to have trouble understanding the meaning of written words. I never said i thought you might be insulted. So i dont really get where my reading skills lack. But since you seem to be so much smarter maybe you can enlight me | ||
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DerNebel
Denmark648 Posts
I don't know much about it's community though. I will have to check that out. | ||
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T3tra
United States406 Posts
On September 06 2011 23:41 deathly rat wrote: What kind of game? Team Fortress 2 is now free to play It's free to play but as far as 1v1 goes, the closest you can get to that is ammomod. The team competition can be fun, but the scene is pretty small and has been for a long time. imo just go play Quake Live. It fits all the criteria you listed above. | ||
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guoguo
United States121 Posts
On September 08 2011 22:07 Ruscour wrote: Competitive Pokemon, takes a lot of study and mental play but very rewarding strategy game. smogon.com This. Competitive pokemon is challenging and rewarding in every aspect, from assembling the perfect team to fit your playstyle to risky decisions paying off in battle. And the community is great. There are tutors to get you started, regularly run tournaments, as well as a ranked ladder with matchmaking. | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
On September 09 2011 02:09 Scio wrote: [...]next time i will just add a smiley at the end of my comment so it doesnt come over as an insult[...] On September 09 2011 02:55 Scio wrote: I never said i thought you might be insulted. So i dont really get where my reading skills lack. But since you seem to be so much smarter maybe you can enlight me At this point I'm fairly sure you're trolling. In case you are not let's take a look at the sentence. "It's closer to a squad based game of tag than an RTS." The 'game of tag' is the important part. The 'squad based' is just an attribute. Similar to how the important part of a sentence is generally a noun and adjectives are used to describe that noun. Therefore it is safe to assume that in most cases the adjective is less important than the noun. Additionally you'll notice that not only did I make my point clear by properly structuring my sentence, but I also made it foolproof by comparing a 'game of tag' to 'RTS'. You'll notice that 'game of tag' and 'Real-Time-Strategy game' are both nouns. You'll also notice that 'squad based' is not a noun. Therefore it is safe to assume that squad based is not necessarily relevant to the comparison. Both these factors contribute to the clear statement of this sentence and nobody in their right mind would be led to believe I was comparing 'squad based' to 'RTS'. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On September 06 2011 23:41 deathly rat wrote: What kind of game? Team Fortress 2 is now free to play Yeah but its a lot more fun as a team game. 1v1 TF2 is pretty limiting. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On September 09 2011 04:21 Cixah wrote: Magic the Gathering. Not the computer game/video game, but the actual game. Very expensive though  . | ||
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beg
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 .. but it's a great game nevertheless. if you don't mind being a noob, play it. | ||
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
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Cuiu
Germany410 Posts
 try fifa or pes they have a ladder and fifa a pro gaming scene | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On September 09 2011 04:15 ain wrote: At this point I'm fairly sure you're trolling. In case you are not let's take a look at the sentence. "It's closer to a squad based game of tag than an RTS." The 'game of tag' is the important part. The 'squad based' is just an attribute. Similar to how the important part of a sentence is generally a noun and adjectives are used to describe that noun. Therefore it is safe to assume that in most cases the adjective is less important than the noun. Additionally you'll notice that not only did I make my point clear by properly structuring my sentence, but I also made it foolproof by comparing a 'game of tag' to 'RTS'. You'll notice that 'game of tag' and 'Real-Time-Strategy game' are both nouns. You'll also notice that 'squad based' is not a noun. Therefore it is safe to assume that squad based is not necessarily relevant to the comparison. Both these factors contribute to the clear statement of this sentence and nobody in their right mind would be led to believe I was comparing 'squad based' to 'RTS'. Did I miss the part in the OP where he was specifically looking for an old-school RTS? Grow up. You can bicker like a child over the definition of RTS, or just accept the fact that it's an offshoot of the old-school RTS genre that Relic started with Company of Heroes. I wouldn't recommend DoW2 to anyone that's truly after a competitive game, for a few simple reasons 1) the current playerbase is really small (~4000 players online at peak time, and they're spread between the RTS part, and Last Stand) 2) there are lots of random effects in the game that can swing the outcome of fights one way or the other (random special melee attacks that send units flying, sync-kills that lock your unit up in combat for a time, etc.). 3) it's just plain imbalanced in a lot of different counter-related ways e.g. some armies have Infiltration long before other armies can reasonably counter it, thus fall behind very quickly with little hope of catching back up, units like Wraithguard are absolute killing machines unless you get something into melee with them, which some armies are terrible at, etc. But, it still has its merits. If you're looking for team-based RTS matches (i.e. non-competitive), which SC2 is horrible at, you'll probably have a lot more fun with DoW2:Retribution. The number of different choices along the simplicity, elegance and power of teamwork make it much more enjoyable than smashing your head against the brickwall that is SC2 2v2, 3v3 or 4v4. | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
On September 09 2011 05:20 Bibdy wrote: Did I miss the part in the OP where he was specifically looking for an old-school RTS? Grow up. You can bicker like a child over the definition of RTS, or just accept the fact that it's an offshoot of the old-school RTS genre that Relic started with Company of Heroes. [...] I'm not arguing whether DoW2 is an RTS or not (it obviously is). I was just comparing it and saying I dont like it. I don't see what's wrong with that. | ||
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DarkEnergy
Netherlands542 Posts
You should pay attention to the units and voice actors in the game its just amazing. Have jet to see another game that even comes close to this one in that department. "If a mouse farts in this god damned minefield, I want his ass blown sky high!" -American Engineers "Some people think we are compensating for something" - King Tiger haha good times gold i say GOLD. | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
I guess it depends on where you see the community. the gamereplays community for DOW2 is awesome. There are a few whiners and bmer's but like in sc2, the respective amount of those people to good people is heavly in favour of the good people. There are weekly tournaments afaik though They are starting to slow down as of late. The game itself is a mix of rts and squad based. Its far more tatical than sc2. You have to carefully plan out what you want to secure and when. What units will do well in certain terrain. Where to go for cover and such. in sc2 the skill is more macro based and more about having the right unit comp. DOW2 is more about getting the right upgrades for your troops and putting them in the right place to take points and win the match by basically choking out your enemy. Auctally on the same page COH is pretty good too. Same type of thing and again a amazing community. I auctally pefer coh to dow2 just because coh is a little more tatical and requires a little more skill. Auctally HuK was a top COH player before he started playing sc2. There is a competitve scene in COH. With a few tournaments going on here and there. Many of the tops players have moved on but a number still remain. A lot of replays are getting released too and the community still wants the game to flourish Also Warcraft 3 is a big one. HUGE scene compared to my other suggestions. A lot of history and still a good sized scene. Nothing like it was. I tend to think of it as what bw was outside of Korea. Same size, and a decent league and tournaments going on. Still many pros for wc3. Some do stream like Lucifer. FPVOD's are still coming out often by chinese players. youe likely to find more games via waaghtv then by stream. Though blizzard has stopped supporting the game. Many orgs like WCG still support the game. | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1967 Posts
did you try sc:bw or did you only play sc2? | ||
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NerO
United States2071 Posts
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LML
Germany1764 Posts
On September 06 2011 22:48 humbre wrote: QL, you could also play blood line champions but its more about team vs team than 1v1 yea, but you can play 2v2 ladder and there are tournaments, it's pretty fun. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44214 Posts
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brichals
Germany50 Posts
Team games work just as well as 1v1 also and are really fun. Player base is not actually that small, just that SC2 is massive. I think this RTS deserves more attention. If you are an RTS fan I don't think it can be bad to own it, especially if you shop around and get it for cheap. It often features in Steam sales. | ||
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Holgerius
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n0ave
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FaCE_1
Canada6170 Posts
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
Oh and arm wrestling | ||
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Iksf
United Kingdom444 Posts
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DONTPANIC
United States340 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Age of Empires the conquerers is a no brainer There's also this really awesome Warhammer 40K RTS game, dont remember the subtitle though | ||
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OoFuzer
Chile436 Posts
On September 10 2011 00:39 Iplaythings wrote: Age of Empires the conquerers is a no brainer why? | ||
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Wrath 2.1
Germany880 Posts
1vs1 Arabia is quite challenging, way more than sc2 at least (bw was harder too due the 12 unit in hand max and the harder spellcasting). Having to deal with a different map each game and knowing how to abuse it or how to defend with incredibly far wood is requiring way more game understanding than the always same map like in sc2. | ||
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Fleebenworth
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On September 10 2011 01:47 Wrath 2.1 wrote: 1vs1 Arabia is quite challenging, way more than sc2 at least (bw was harder too due the 12 unit in hand max and the harder spellcasting). Having to deal with a different map each game and knowing how to abuse it or how to defend with incredibly far wood is requiring way more game understanding than the always same map like in sc2. Yeah scouting is actually scouting rather than just looking for specific buildings etc. | ||
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DarQraven
Netherlands553 Posts
On September 06 2011 23:54 Bacillus wrote: How is Quake Live doing these days? I tried to learn the dueling maybe 6 months ago, but it was really difficult to start improving as most opponents were way above my level and even then I didn't find matches quick enough to get consistent improvement going. I don't mind getting totally outplayed, but it's really bothersome if you can't find enough practice matches to close the gap. Don't be discouraged by this. The nature of Q3 duels makes it so that if even a small skill difference exists between two opponents, the match ends in a complete blowout most of the times. 10-2 or 10-1 isn't at all uncommon. It's only when opponents are very well matched that close matches occur. It's a simple result of the fact that an early advantage in the game (picking up megahealth first) spirals into more advantage (item control), which makes it even harder to lose this advantage once you have it (it's almost impossible to break a player who controls RA and MH unless you're playing a very large map). Once a better player takes a small lead, that lead will turn huge given enough time. Just keep playing versus the regulars, the skillmatching will do a pretty good job in not pitting you against Stermy or Cypher if you lose to them all the time;) -- Also, and I don't know if this is your thing at all: boardgames Don't just think of the well-known ones like Chess, Go, Monopoly, Risk and Chutes 'n Ladders. There are quite thematic, diverse and strategic boardgames out there, some very well suited to 1v1 play and skill-based (minimal random/luck driven elements). For a light 1v1 positioning/deduction game, I'd recommend Mr Jack. The rules are pretty quick to learn, yet after your initial game or two learning the flow of the game, some pretty intense mindgames can ensue. A more complicated card/deck building game is Dominion. The basic idea is that you use cards from your hand to buy more cards that increase the buying/drawing power of your deck, which in turns lets you buy more cards, etc. Twist being - none of that gets you any points. For those, you'll have to buy land (provinces, dutchies, etc) that decrease the effectiveness of your deck by being generally useless during the game and clogging up your hand. The game is a pretty interesting quest of deck balancing and pretty well suited for 1v1 (though it scales nicely up to 5 players.) | ||
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PDizzle
Denmark1754 Posts
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papapanda
Taiwan326 Posts
http://www.tempestchess.com/ Tempest is just chess, but with no turns, so you can move as many pieces as you want(though there is a cooldown timer) The game provides a few different game mode like 1v1v1v1, tournament style, 2v2, 1v1 speed mode, or just 1v1 standard, (have not played in a long time, maybe there are other modes) In terms of strategy, it is completely different from chess with quick reaction and finger speed, you can dodge incoming attacks. I got into this game through TL, because some said it can train multitask. Even though i didnt really improve that much, tempest is definitely one of the most interesting game. GLHF | ||
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Tezzick
Canada187 Posts
The main two I've been playing recently on PSN with my buddy is Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket Powered Battle Cars and Rag Doll Kung Fu. SARPBC is like soccer except your "player" is a car that you can jump around, do tricks and whatever to try and get the huge ball into the enemy net. There is 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 modes. The tricks are actually somewhat complicated and pretty rewarding. Rag Doll Kung fu is a Super Smash Bros clone but with rag dolls that is super hilarious and super fun. It can be 1v1 or up to 4v4 I think. | ||
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link0
United States1071 Posts
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
Create your own 1v1 game and play on it. | ||
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I am not sure of these are still around for easy internet-based multiplayer, but AOE2/3, RA3 are good games imo. For fighting games, you two can try Touhou (12 iirc). I think it's an incredibly hard game. | ||
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2WeaK
Canada550 Posts
On September 07 2011 00:04 hotbreakfest wrote: You can try some Super Turbo on GGPO, but there are a lot of veterans. So be prepared to get roflstomped for the first few weeks, if this will be your first time playing fighting games. You're so positive! xD | ||
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