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iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
February 13 2015 19:27 GMT
#17681
playing without awp is very limiting in all competitively played maps, 5 rifles strats can work but they shouldn't be the standard of how any team plays

f0rest can awp alright when he is on his day but then NiP are missing out on his great rifling. there are consistent and stable awpers who you can generally count to not to miss the shot when they are holding an angle. skadoodle is a great example of the type of awper who would fit NiP well in terms of playstyle. they need to find someone who speaks swedish with similar awping style. there is not much time though, katowice is soon and the team of course wants to practice a lot before it.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
February 13 2015 19:35 GMT
#17682
Perhaps after the patch that changes smoke abit makes it possible to run without an awper?
Would be great if that was the case.

Hope NiP can play good with whoever they have in katowice
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
February 13 2015 20:22 GMT
#17683
Suspicions confirmed. Can't agree with the timing though or perhaps things really weren't working out.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
February 13 2015 20:44 GMT
#17684
Problem is they need a dedicated awper. They've been using 5 riflers ever since they started CSGO, and as we can see with their results after winning ESL Cologne, they got torn apart by every team. Fiffy tried to fill that role by picking up the awp, but he's just not as aggressive an awper as others/Maikelele is. I find Maikelele's volatile awping really helps give their T-side a quick 1-man advantage/entry, but CT side where more defensive awping is needed, he kind of lacks a bit in that regard.

I don't think this would've been made public if it weren't for the fact that rumours started spreading after Maikelele tweeted he was subbing for Orbit over the weekend. They ended up making some weird public statement that ends up leaving Maikelele in limbo to quell the rumours. NiP should still be attending Katowice with Maikelele unless they actually find a replacement in a month's time (not likely), also not many other candidates available. Kind of funny because it sounded like Orbit was about to make a statement saying they're going to pick up Maikelele, but after NiP's statement, they had to be like, whoops change of plans.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
February 13 2015 23:20 GMT
#17685
I would be very surprised if NiP could replace Maikelele for anyone "better". There certainly are better awpers out there but Maiekelele is a very good, well rounded fragger. Maybe the rumors(?) about his attitude were founded, but I don't know, Skill wise, he's solid.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
February 14 2015 00:48 GMT
#17686
On February 14 2015 08:20 Djzapz wrote:
I would be very surprised if NiP could replace Maikelele for anyone "better". There certainly are better awpers out there but Maiekelele is a very good, well rounded fragger. Maybe the rumors(?) about his attitude were founded, but I don't know, Skill wise, he's solid.

He tweeted that it wasnt his attitude problems. Its probably because his playstyle and consistency.

i think NiP needs a more consistent defensive/support oriented AWPer. Someone like Xizt with an awp. Lele is a wayyy more aggressive oriented, while that works out sometimes its not how NiP is built.
Look to Titan and Fnatic to see how KennyS and JW are clearly the focal point of those two teams and are extremely aggressive players, it isn't that way for NiP.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 01:24:55
February 14 2015 01:04 GMT
#17687
On February 14 2015 09:48 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 08:20 Djzapz wrote:
I would be very surprised if NiP could replace Maikelele for anyone "better". There certainly are better awpers out there but Maiekelele is a very good, well rounded fragger. Maybe the rumors(?) about his attitude were founded, but I don't know, Skill wise, he's solid.

He tweeted that it wasnt his attitude problems. Its probably because his playstyle and consistency.

i think NiP needs a more consistent defensive/support oriented AWPer. Someone like Xizt with an awp. Lele is a wayyy more aggressive oriented, while that works out sometimes its not how NiP is built.
Look to Titan and Fnatic to see how KennyS and JW are clearly the focal point of those two teams and are extremely aggressive players, it isn't that way for NiP.

Well they wouldn't tweet about his attitude problems because that would be throwing him under the bus and if they're not sure whether they want to keep him they would never openly admit to his attitude problems (which, like I said, probably aren't a problem). Anyway I'm no great analyst but I think Maikelele is fucking awesome and it's as good as it'll get for NiP, unless they can get a world class superstar AWP like JW which I can't imagine will happen.

As for the consistency of Maiekelele, I think it's unfair to suggest that he's been inconsistent. You bring up Xizt who's inconsistent, he is. And he's not the greatest of fraggers either. He's no superstar. Then there's Friberg and Get Right who are superstars with some form of consistency but I'd argue not anymore than Maikelele since he's been on NiP. Especially Get Right, who's always good but in recent months has not been the monster he's historically been.

I think that NiP is making illogical decision because the team was marked by the fact that it used to be the best team in the world. So now it's looking for solutions to be the best team in the world again. It's not trying to be better, it's trying to be the best team in the world. I think that may be the wrong way to go about it.

The competition is a lot harder than it was when NiP was destroying everyone. I think NiP should be satisfied with being one of the best teams in the world, and work as a team to get better, and win championships. Frankly I don't believe than switching players around will do well. I think the target is unrealistic, and the means to get there are perhaps doing more harm than good.

PS: I have been drinking a fair amount.

Long story short, if you can't get JW, Maikelele is the next best thing.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 01:08:16
February 14 2015 01:06 GMT
#17688
On February 14 2015 00:43 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 09:54 Steveling wrote:
I tried again with a five-seven skin this time. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=391489365
How does it look?
I'm not that sure about the red parts.


I have to start by saying you cant really doubt the quality of the work, its top notch.

But omg that is ugly as sin.


Laughed my ass off, xD.
It's true that I have no artistic touch whatsoever. *sighs*
I'll keep making ugly skins, mby I'll learn sometime, lol.

*ysellian btw add me, we should play some together*
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
February 14 2015 04:14 GMT
#17689
NIP need someone like olofmeister who is both a beast with awp and a sick rifler to boot. That versatility is what makes Fnatic so good in the first place with olofm either going for a dual awp setup with jw or locking down a choke with a rifle. That's why Titan having the greatest awp in the game struggles to hold their setups consistently.

The problem is players like olofm are very very hard to come by.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 14 2015 05:09 GMT
#17690
What if kennys went to nip? Would it work out as intended?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
February 14 2015 13:45 GMT
#17691
On February 14 2015 14:09 Steveling wrote:
What if kennys went to nip? Would it work out as intended?

I'm reasonably sure NiP is looking to be Swedish only team. But KennyS is a good addition to any team out there. I think Titan is nothing more than a balancing act to prevent Nv from being off the charts good. Imagine EnvyUs with KennyS instead of Smithzz. They'd slam everyone.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 22:24:19
February 14 2015 22:24 GMT
#17692
@Steveling sure, that would be fun! I can't find you on steam though pm me your ID.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 06:19:10
February 15 2015 05:15 GMT
#17693
You can find me through my workshop link in the post above, xP.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
February 15 2015 14:49 GMT
#17694
Delpan will be the new tryout for nip. Never heard of him before but iam pretty noob when it comes to good players in cs.
Would appreciate some comments about his style/skill etc.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 15 2015 15:09 GMT
#17695
They should try out me too.
I once almost awp'd someone from bombsite a to pit... almost. xD
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
February 15 2015 16:29 GMT
#17696
Delpan was pretty good in 1.6, but has since fallen off the radar after csgo released.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
February 15 2015 19:50 GMT
#17697
had this last night:
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 15 2015 20:08 GMT
#17698
The old "throw the awp at them" tactic, xD.
Twas wicked, I can only hit teammates by no-scoping, (.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
February 15 2015 20:20 GMT
#17699
NIP have been winning all their T rounds, but can't seem to play on CT :/
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4208 Posts
February 15 2015 20:27 GMT
#17700
So I finally decided to man up and start working on my calibration for competitive. Am I being like very short-sided, or is this cooldown you get a really dumb idea? 20 hours is way too much... I can't imagine this being a thing in Dota/League/SC or anything, is this something actually useful for the community??
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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