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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 29 2014 04:59 Doublemint wrote: boy CS community is just terrible in comparison to SC. and SC can be terrible already -_- It is terrible to expect fair game? | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Like if one guy can shoot people and they can't shoot him Welll That is hardly fair, and i say "NO! good sir" that will not do | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8764 Posts
On November 29 2014 05:00 The_Red_Viper wrote: It is terrible to expect fair game? yes. yes, that's what I said and what I meant. -_- | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On November 29 2014 05:01 Nouar wrote: Why would the map be banned ? Just the pixel walking. PTSD | ||
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Fireflies
United Kingdom211 Posts
On November 29 2014 04:52 Nimix wrote: Seems like flusha had several moments where his crosshair tracked heads in this very game on top of the boost exploit :') There is no ledge on the map editor, it's a pixel walk, I hope they'll get disqualified. Also, they asked the guy that posted the exploit on reddit to remove it due to "dreamhack tactics" haha http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153073339.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153210728.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153278800.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153345794.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153420379.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417154388596.webm More than several. | ||
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
On November 29 2014 04:59 AsnSensation wrote: can someone Eli5 what exactly happened and how they turned around a 12-3 score with it? Kinda my first time watching Counter strike in 5 years or so. They used a very powerful position on the map to reverse the score to a win (never used before, nor seen in competitive play). The legality of the spot is still up for debate. Note that the map is slightly(?) CT sided. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On November 29 2014 04:59 AsnSensation wrote: can someone Eli5 what exactly happened and how they turned around a 12-3 score with it? Kinda my first time watching Counter strike in 5 years or so. They used a boost where you can basically see over half the map. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AFVdPGT.png?1) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AROrw0u.jpg) It would've been okay to use it, if it wasn't for Pixel walking, which isn't allowed in any of the decent CS leagues/tournaments. That means the guy who is boosting the guy shooting over the walls, isn't on top of anything. This was confirmed pixel boosting by someone in the community. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5e2T6l6.jpg) | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On November 29 2014 04:59 AsnSensation wrote: can someone Eli5 what exactly happened and how they turned around a 12-3 score with it? Kinda my first time watching Counter strike in 5 years or so. Fnatic found a spot where one person could get boosted and defend both sites at the same time. In addition, since it was a new boost and very far from where it could first see baddies, the other team couldn't locate the guy up there (who had a scout and later an autosniper). So basically 2 guys (the shooter plus the guy he was boosted on) could defend both sites while being invisible (although if the other team knew of the spot they could have killed him). It turns out that the bottom guy on the boost was basically exploiting to stand where he was, so while the top guy was "legal" the entire setup shouldn't have been allowed. Thats kinda the TL;DR. | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On November 29 2014 05:02 Fireflies wrote: http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153073339.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153210728.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153278800.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153345794.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417153420379.webm http://i.4cdn.org/v/1417154388596.webm More than several. (he said "in this very game" ;-p) | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
As a rabid BW follower, I think it's time to take desperate measures and kick that team of cheaters and abusers and those who defend their moves right out of the scene asap. Liked olofm and pronax so much, oh well. "Worst major tournament ever" doesn't even cut it anymore, lol. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On November 29 2014 05:01 Doublemint wrote: yes. yes, that's what I said and what I meant. -_- i dont get you Are you saying the CS community is terrible because people want a fair game and DQ/rematch fnatic because THEY BROKE the rules ? then i wish this community would be even more terrible by your standards | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On November 29 2014 05:01 KelsierSC wrote: So is that map going to be banned from the tournament? Like if one guy can shoot people and they can't shoot him Welll That is hardly fair, and i say "NO! good sir" that will not do I mean, if people just test it they'll know where his head shows up and kill him. the spot is still too good imo but it's at least counterable if you know about it | ||
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KasPra
Estonia983 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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Yurie
12181 Posts
On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote: Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Blatant LDLC pandering GTF... wait no I'm not like that... Come on. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
On November 29 2014 05:05 KasPra wrote: Why is it that people still go like "they put more work in and explored the map, can't blame fnatic" etc when they intentionally and knowingly straight up cheated their way to a win? :S It probably wasn't knowingly considering it's an obvious pixel walk. I don't think they're stupid enough to think they would get away with it. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On November 29 2014 05:06 Yurie wrote: If fnactic didn't consider it pixel walking then it isn't knowingly cheating. Nobody gives a fuck about fnatic's opinion now. And those who try to act as advocates for them. | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
Yeah, I was speccing him out of curiosity, and he tracked a guy's head for like 3s while strafing and through a smoke, and lurppis tweeted about another moment where he had to clutch and tracked a head through a pillar.. I don't even know anymore, it would be really sickening if he managed to hack after all those measures DH took, and on the other hand it really seems much to put on luck.. | ||
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