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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 23:10:56
November 19 2014 23:04 GMT
#13641
On November 20 2014 06:56 MWY wrote:
The video really does look like a cheat. Wow. That said, smn appearantly just denied that he was leaking cheating players.

source:
https://www.facebook.com/strux1/photos/a.131505783654020.22904.126513400819925/452354614902467/?type=1&theater

Demos are 16 tick, MM is 64 tick, and that game was probably played in a 128 tick server.
On November 20 2014 07:38 Capped wrote:
DHW is going to be a shitstorm lol.

Alot of these clips ive never seen and they look stupidly suspicious lol. That KQLY clip wut, honest to god, some high ranker tell me if thats human reaction times?

Im not higher rank, but, on the video there's only 1 tick where one of them is visible in the demo, which could be potentially up to 7 ticks on a 128 tick server, which is a 0.06~ second reaction time? lol.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
November 19 2014 23:15 GMT
#13642
If we took the statistics from http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/statistics concerning reaction times, average human reaction time is like .26 seconds (I had .242 average) so human reaction times of .06 isn't humane. Now that i actually think about it, remember that Hiko flick on GTR?




That could seriously have been hacks if we look at that reaction time on hiko
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 00:27:24
November 20 2014 00:25 GMT
#13643
I dunno, it sucks that we're all going to be second guessing these amazing moments now, since nobodies confirmed legit now someones been caught at LAN and all these stories about "super-vip" hacks are coming from all sources. (I mean lets be honest we all knew they probably existed on some level) Only thing you can do is really crackdown at LAN's though. how else do you prevent it :<

Its hard to believe theres so much corruption going on at the top though, how many of those players being called out kept it hidden from teammates and close friends? Although, how many of them actually are doing what they're accused of, nothings confirmed yet lel.

Will be interesting to see how this all plays out, i hope most of it is bullshit tbh, could kill the scene. And like i said, DHW will be a drama shitstorm.

EDIT: see there you go, snm apparently claiming he didnt leak those player names. doesnt prove shit either way still but just gotta wait for the dust to settle on this one lol.
Useless wet fish.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 00:43:11
November 20 2014 00:38 GMT
#13644
I know that it takes something like 0.08~ for your eyes to send what you see to your brain and something like 0.02~ for your brain to actually move your finger when you decide to do that, so the minimum humanly possible reaction time is probably somewhere around 0.1 - 0.15 This doesn't account for additional potential variables in CSGO like ping, monitor refresh rates, server lag, needing to move crosshair when reacting, etc.

Edit: I averaged 238 ms reaction out of about 20 tries, best one was 205 and slowest was 280.
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RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
November 20 2014 00:49 GMT
#13645
On November 20 2014 08:15 amazingxkcd wrote:
If we took the statistics from http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/statistics concerning reaction times, average human reaction time is like .26 seconds (I had .242 average) so human reaction times of .06 isn't humane. Now that i actually think about it, remember that Hiko flick on GTR?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnyRc6rbsK0


That could seriously have been hacks if we look at that reaction time on hiko


Makes me go back and question all of the sick shots from the last few tournaments... Even if not all of the allegations are true, there's no way to know if any of those crazy plays were legitimate or not.

At least it's an easier problem to address at LANs than blood doping and steroids and such in traditional sports.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 20 2014 09:54 GMT
#13646
Plot twist: Fifflaren is the only pro, who didn't use cheats.
way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
November 20 2014 10:16 GMT
#13647
Also Kräuterhumpen.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2126 Posts
November 20 2014 11:58 GMT
#13648
I think the whole thing is going a bit overboard considering there aren't any actually credible sources as far as I can tell. Match together some extremely skilled players and make them play loads of rounds and combine it with a little inaccurate demos and you're going to have some questionable looking frags.

Mostly I'm quite shocked how little control and checking LANs seem to do over customization in general. The players really shouldn't have access to anything else than the very necessities for setting up their mouse and basic config.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 12:53:17
November 20 2014 12:49 GMT
#13649
nm thinking of Overwatch demos
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 15:33:22
November 20 2014 15:33 GMT
#13650
The server is public at the moment!
Add it to your favs!

+ Show Spoiler +

ip: aerga.weissebahn.de:27015
pw: - (none)
rules: casual w/ bots


If you have any ideas on how to run an (unofficial) tl public server - give it to me!
Temporarily, way2mash4U (he seems to be away too) has rcon (and me obv.). But i have to go to work soon.
If the server will be well accepted, i'll try to give a lot of (tl) people perma rcon, hence there is permanent support.
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 15:34:57
November 20 2014 15:34 GMT
#13651
As much as I like the idea, I'm not sure it's possible to enjoy cs with 150 ping so I won't be playing on that server

gl tho
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 20 2014 17:03 GMT
#13652
lol that shot from Hiko... I've had some weird 180 flicks but nothing that sick...

Still if you play a lot, once in a while you'll see weird shit happen.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
November 20 2014 17:08 GMT
#13653
On November 21 2014 00:33 Striker.superfreunde wrote:
The server is public at the moment!
Add it to your favs!

+ Show Spoiler +

ip: aerga.weissebahn.de:27015
pw: - (none)
rules: casual w/ bots


If you have any ideas on how to run an (unofficial) tl public server - give it to me!
Temporarily, way2mash4U (he seems to be away too) has rcon (and me obv.). But i have to go to work soon.
If the server will be well accepted, i'll try to give a lot of (tl) people perma rcon, hence there is permanent support.

Even I has 75ping from France where I usually have 25. Problem with hosting your own server is that you add your ping to anyone who connects in addition to their ping.
NoiR
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12182 Posts
November 20 2014 17:32 GMT
#13654
On November 21 2014 02:08 Nouar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 00:33 Striker.superfreunde wrote:
The server is public at the moment!
Add it to your favs!

+ Show Spoiler +

ip: aerga.weissebahn.de:27015
pw: - (none)
rules: casual w/ bots


If you have any ideas on how to run an (unofficial) tl public server - give it to me!
Temporarily, way2mash4U (he seems to be away too) has rcon (and me obv.). But i have to go to work soon.
If the server will be well accepted, i'll try to give a lot of (tl) people perma rcon, hence there is permanent support.

Even I has 75ping from France where I usually have 25. Problem with hosting your own server is that you add your ping to anyone who connects in addition to their ping.


The same is true for all servers. The ones one pays for usually have lower latency to the main routers both pass through. So the server side ping is lower due to that, not due to the same thing not happening.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
November 20 2014 18:02 GMT
#13655
max kek KQLY's main account got vacced. Scream is mad as fuck on his stream haha
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 20 2014 18:02 GMT
#13656
On November 21 2014 03:02 Nimix wrote:
max kek KQLY's main account got vacced. Scream is mad as fuck on his stream haha

well thats actually big news
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 18:07:55
November 20 2014 18:03 GMT
#13657
Why was ScreaM mad? o_O 'cause of losing to Titan?

I watched the Hiko clip. I've actually done the exact same thing once before. I pretty much just instantly reacted and 180'd + clicked without properly aiming and I ended up shooting a guy in the face. It was exactly like what Hiko did, and my crosshair even dragged wide right afterwards just like his because I panic-clicked before I even stopped to aim but got a lucky headshot. Not saying it happened here with Hiko, but it's happened with me before, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 18:10:40
November 20 2014 18:10 GMT
#13658
On November 21 2014 03:03 Souma wrote:
Why was ScreaM mad? o_O 'cause of losing to Titan?

I watched the Hiko clip. I've actually done the exact same thing once before. I pretty much just instantly reacted and 180'd + clicked without properly aiming and I ended up shooting a guy in the face. It was exactly like what Hiko did, and my crosshair even dragged wide right afterwards just like his because I panic-clicked before I even stopped to aim but got a lucky headshot. Not saying it happened here with Hiko, but it's happened with me before, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

was only half-listening, but something about KQLY taking his spot on Titan while possibly being a cheater(doubt it was strictly 'taking his spot' though)

but what the fuckkkkk wtf is gonna happen now, 2 weeks until DH

wtffff
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 20 2014 18:10 GMT
#13659
On November 21 2014 03:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 03:02 Nimix wrote:
max kek KQLY's main account got vacced. Scream is mad as fuck on his stream haha

well thats actually big news


Oh man shits about to go down in the cs scene. After snm and the supposed calling out of players, for this to happen holy shit.
Useless wet fish.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
November 20 2014 18:12 GMT
#13660
Titan gets booted from Dreamhack Winter. iBP makes it out of groups!?
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