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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 18 2012 22:12 GMT
#4041
Question; why is the map-pool in pro CS so insanely stagnant? I remember in the few CS tournaments I watched in 1.6 all I ever saw was like Dust 2, Train, Nuke and some other. Now when I tune in to a GO tournament, all I see is Dust 2, Train, Nuke (with some small changes)...

One of the reasons why BW has kept such a fresh feeling is that new awesome maps have been released continuously throughout its lifetime. Why aren't we seeing new awesome maps for CS, in the same way?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#4042
Probably because no one in the scene takes initiative to make new maps lol and the CS community doesn't like change.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 18:07:36
November 19 2012 17:56 GMT
#4043
okay so ive been trying to get a game going for the past hour or so and the wait time is estimated at 55minutes?
It says only 3-5 people searching for a game

whats going on ??

edit: I should note that i took a break for about 2weeks or so

edit2: okay nevermind looks like its only like that for Hostage vs defuse which has 100+ people atm
helokity
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada47 Posts
November 19 2012 18:37 GMT
#4044
On November 20 2012 02:56 Obstikal wrote:
okay so ive been trying to get a game going for the past hour or so and the wait time is estimated at 55minutes?
It says only 3-5 people searching for a game

whats going on ??

edit: I should note that i took a break for about 2weeks or so

edit2: okay nevermind looks like its only like that for Hostage vs defuse which has 100+ people atm


I believe the numbers that they post during searches have been deemed falsified by most of the community. But yea no one plays hostage maps. You'll be lucky to find a game unless you're on a new account / low ELO. It's best to queue defuse maps always.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
November 19 2012 18:41 GMT
#4045
On November 19 2012 07:12 Holgerius wrote:
Question; why is the map-pool in pro CS so insanely stagnant? I remember in the few CS tournaments I watched in 1.6 all I ever saw was like Dust 2, Train, Nuke and some other. Now when I tune in to a GO tournament, all I see is Dust 2, Train, Nuke (with some small changes)...

One of the reasons why BW has kept such a fresh feeling is that new awesome maps have been released continuously throughout its lifetime. Why aren't we seeing new awesome maps for CS, in the same way?

There are very good maps. The problem is just that people don't want them. Just put a nice new map on a ffa server & see all players leaving 80% of the time.
ESL used to do a good job to provide new interesting maps, I don't play it at the moment but you should check .
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
November 20 2012 05:23 GMT
#4046
There are a lot of decent maps in rotation for tournaments, including mill and tuscan and stuff. The game's been out for less than half a year. Really.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 20 2012 15:41 GMT
#4047
I didn't see any of those maps in ESWC or DH Valencia.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
November 20 2012 17:44 GMT
#4048
The latest THOR qualifier, afaik, ran tuscan at least.

That being said, I don't disagree... we need new maps, that's just the least of my concerns as far as this game is concerned. Maps will come, and certainly not from the official developer (looking at you, blizzard)
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
November 20 2012 17:55 GMT
#4049
Matchmaking is so awesome. Queuing up and getting to play with really good random people is awesome. I've had nothing but awesome games when I play matchmaking ('distinguished master guardian' level)
England will fight to the last American
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
November 20 2012 17:59 GMT
#4050
I just want demolition maps in classic competitive
KTY
dbizzle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
November 20 2012 18:48 GMT
#4051
Hey guys, just to remind you that the $9,000 5v5 and 1v1 $1000 CS:GO ladder leagues are still live and running. The top teams will be invited to a playoff bracket with some selective matches being broadcasted by MLG. You can find signups and all information here:

http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/forums/t/Gamebattles-FAQ-Creating-teams-and-finding-matches-7211181

There you can sign up for both ladders as well as learning how to find, create and report matches.

The regular season will be ending DEC 31st, 2012. So get your matches in and start fragging.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 20 2012 19:26 GMT
#4052
Random questions:
Has the Five-Seven any redeeming qualities? To me, it seems inferior to the P250 and even the f**king dual berettas.

I have noticed that some weapons have less penalty for shooting while moving. Dual berettas, nova shotgun, and to a lesser extent the Mag7.
On the flipside the Galil and Famas seem to have worse than average accuracy while moving(aside from the sniper rifles, obviously).
I know it´s considered a bad habit to not stop while shooting, I still find it interesting that those weapons seemingly don´t penalize you for that. Gives some weapons interesting qualities. Anyone else notice something interesting about certain weapons?


And more importantly, is there any redeeming quality to the five-seven?

If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
GrimmJ
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada131 Posts
November 20 2012 19:31 GMT
#4053
On November 21 2012 04:26 Mataza wrote:
Random questions:
Has the Five-Seven any redeeming qualities? To me, it seems inferior to the P250 and even the f**king dual berettas.

I have noticed that some weapons have less penalty for shooting while moving. Dual berettas, nova shotgun, and to a lesser extent the Mag7.
On the flipside the Galil and Famas seem to have worse than average accuracy while moving(aside from the sniper rifles, obviously).
I know it´s considered a bad habit to not stop while shooting, I still find it interesting that those weapons seemingly don´t penalize you for that. Gives some weapons interesting qualities. Anyone else notice something interesting about certain weapons?


And more importantly, is there any redeeming quality to the five-seven?




From what I've seen around the CS:GO reddit, and my brief uses of the Five-Seven in game, it is more movement based and there's a bit of a luck aspect to it. I think it's definitely overshadowed by the P250/Deagle, but I've seen good play from it.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 19:35:22
November 20 2012 19:31 GMT
#4054
Just played my first competetive game, and I kicked ass. :D Sure, it was against mostly newbies even dumber and worse than I am, but still. It felt awesome.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
November 20 2012 20:09 GMT
#4055
On November 21 2012 04:31 GrimmJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 04:26 Mataza wrote:
Random questions:
Has the Five-Seven any redeeming qualities? To me, it seems inferior to the P250 and even the f**king dual berettas.

I have noticed that some weapons have less penalty for shooting while moving. Dual berettas, nova shotgun, and to a lesser extent the Mag7.
On the flipside the Galil and Famas seem to have worse than average accuracy while moving(aside from the sniper rifles, obviously).
I know it´s considered a bad habit to not stop while shooting, I still find it interesting that those weapons seemingly don´t penalize you for that. Gives some weapons interesting qualities. Anyone else notice something interesting about certain weapons?


And more importantly, is there any redeeming quality to the five-seven?




From what I've seen around the CS:GO reddit, and my brief uses of the Five-Seven in game, it is more movement based and there's a bit of a luck aspect to it. I think it's definitely overshadowed by the P250/Deagle, but I've seen good play from it.


5-7's got a bigger clip than the p250 (20 vs 13), but I think the recoil and damage is about the same.

Also, I love the galil, sometimes I'll use it exclusively and won't even upgrade because its burst pattern is so similar to CS:S's AK burst pattern. The Famas on the other hand is all about impossible for me to use :T I'd rather just get an m4 with no armor, or save up.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 20:12:46
November 20 2012 20:10 GMT
#4056
On November 20 2012 14:23 Maedi wrote:
There are a lot of decent maps in rotation for tournaments, including mill and tuscan and stuff. The game's been out for less than half a year. Really.


The two maps you mentioned are basically the same thing and they've been in the CS rotation for years. The only other map is mirage which is a remake of strike. Really, the map pool is extremely stale and the community has always been poorly receptive of new maps. It's sad.
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
November 21 2012 02:33 GMT
#4057
NiP and a lot of other euros seem to be playing on NA ESEA pugs... heard accounts of people playing with f0rest and friberg... Hm, want to start pugging again! :D
r4pture
Profile Joined May 2011
United States397 Posts
November 22 2012 13:09 GMT
#4058
Great games going on at DH Winter, Group A just ended, Group be starting in about an hour from this post. 5.7k viewers at the time of this post, and it deserves more, come watch!

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackcs
http://teamfortress.tv - For your TF2 streaming and discussion needs!
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2664 Posts
November 22 2012 13:10 GMT
#4059
I am watching already, is there a link for the brackets btw?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
November 22 2012 15:43 GMT
#4060
On November 22 2012 22:10 gTank wrote:
I am watching already, is there a link for the brackets btw?

http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=216&eventid=1021
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