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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
March 18 2016 15:21 GMT
#20821
On March 18 2016 23:21 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 23:15 Kipsate wrote:
They dropped hard from being the unquestionably best team in the world to this state but they have had problems for quite a while already.

Unless Guardian shows up bigtime against Astralis(very possible actually, he has been looking gooooood). I don't think Navi will beat Astralis in a bo5(finals is Bo5 right?).

I believe it's a best of 3. Nonetheless Nv was only very briefly "unquestionably" the best team in the world and that was many months ago before the Fnatic era, they dropped down from there over the second half of 2015 or whatever but this current slump is 1 or 2 notches down from where they were even in late 2015.

Late 2015 Nv was not at their peak, now they're at their worst probably since the LDLC days, despite global esports cup that they won - it wasn't the highest level of competition.

Yeah, nV was super bad late 2015, where they won the last major against the second best team in the world

nV so bad.

They have been in a slump for some time, but come on, you are being a little too extreme
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 15:34:33
March 18 2016 15:22 GMT
#20822
On March 19 2016 00:21 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 23:21 Djzapz wrote:
On March 18 2016 23:15 Kipsate wrote:
They dropped hard from being the unquestionably best team in the world to this state but they have had problems for quite a while already.

Unless Guardian shows up bigtime against Astralis(very possible actually, he has been looking gooooood). I don't think Navi will beat Astralis in a bo5(finals is Bo5 right?).

I believe it's a best of 3. Nonetheless Nv was only very briefly "unquestionably" the best team in the world and that was many months ago before the Fnatic era, they dropped down from there over the second half of 2015 or whatever but this current slump is 1 or 2 notches down from where they were even in late 2015.

Late 2015 Nv was not at their peak, now they're at their worst probably since the LDLC days, despite global esports cup that they won - it wasn't the highest level of competition.

Yeah, nV was super bad late 2015, where they won the last major against the second best team in the world

nV so bad.

They have been in a slump for some time, but come on, you are being a little too extreme

I said they were not a their peak in late 2015, where are you getting that "super bad" and "so bad" from, you lunatic? I was making conversation, and now you're distorting what I'm saying to the point of making a caricature out of yourself and it comes off as trolling. Try to be honest when you try to characterize what I've been saying please, or make an effort understanding what you read.

The slump I'm referring to is the very clear drop in consistency SINCE late 2015, when they won the major. You're the one who's saying Nv has been slumping for a long time, so we're not even talking about the same thing. I think they were pretty good in late 2015 though despite winning the major they were less consistent than they'd been in early 2015, I recognize it's debatable. I think their results in 2016 have been bad, and they know that, everyone knows that.

There's literally nothing extreme in anything I've said. Not even close. It's to the point where your reaction to what I've said leaves me completely dumbfounded.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 18 2016 16:31 GMT
#20823
Yup, late 2015 was a strange period. nV were clearly not as good as they've already been, but no team was really there to contest their form at that moment. Fnatic only caught up to their dominant form right after the major.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 18 2016 18:09 GMT
#20824
i may have gone a bit too fast in accusing happy and kennys being the main responsible of this, but i'm honestly amazed at how far nV is falling

how is it even possible ? i mean a top team, even in a slump (here it's far more than just a slump) has some tactical discipline that will maintain them way above average

and yes, i still think that kioshima is the scapegoat of what i would call the nV's malaise
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
March 18 2016 18:30 GMT
#20825
https://twitter.com/NRG_ptr/status/710194968615383041?s=09

Warning: this is somewhat graphic, so don't open the link if you're squeamish


ptr's foot. damn that looks bad
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
March 18 2016 19:33 GMT
#20826
Man Flamie's aim is absolutely insane, Guardian can play with so much less pressure now and that makes him scarier to.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 18 2016 19:34 GMT
#20827
On March 19 2016 04:33 Rebs wrote:
Man Flamie's aim is absolutely insane, Guardian can play with so much less pressure now and that makes him scarier to.

No shit. What a disgusting game on mirage, nothing Astralis could do against that duo.

Also :X at ptr's foot... ouch
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 18 2016 19:34 GMT
#20828
yea flamie is godtier recently
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 18 2016 19:35 GMT
#20829
Welp, another chance that Astralis missed. Damn, they're close to the soO of CS:GO at this point.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 19:38:33
March 18 2016 19:37 GMT
#20830
On March 19 2016 04:34 Makro wrote:
yea flamie is godtier recently


The main thing I notice about his play compared to when he was just good aim but not scary + Show Spoiler +
(kinda like Simple in a way)
is that his positioning after he gets the first frag has gotten alot smarter, its very clean and less impetuous. Before he would just keep dueling. And the even scarier part is on the rare occasion he isnt in a good position he fucking just flicks across the screen and still tears someones head off. And these arent pubsters these are some of the best.

Its just so fun to watch.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 18 2016 19:39 GMT
#20831
he plays with a lot more of confidence, it's quite a pleasure to see him in action
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
March 18 2016 19:54 GMT
#20832
astralis
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 18 2016 22:03 GMT
#20833
On March 18 2016 23:30 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 23:24 Kipsate wrote:
In a bo3 I can see Navi winning but I still hope for Astralis;;


Poor soul...

EVERY TIME

EVERY FUCKING TIME.
WriterXiao8~~
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 22:16:55
March 18 2016 22:16 GMT
#20834
Just let it go. Let go of your hopes and never be disappointed again.
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Rockafellalp
Profile Joined December 2014
Canada356 Posts
March 19 2016 23:22 GMT
#20835
won a twitch stream give away, bayonet urban masked
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 19 2016 23:27 GMT
#20836
Tomorrow I'm playing a CEVO-A playoffs match and I'm full out rusty and out of practice. RIP.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7184 Posts
March 19 2016 23:42 GMT
#20837
Won a bo3 for a bag of chips and red bull today! Yayyy!
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Rockafellalp
Profile Joined December 2014
Canada356 Posts
March 19 2016 23:47 GMT
#20838
On March 20 2016 08:42 Luolis wrote:
Won a bo3 for a bag of chips and red bull today! Yayyy!

What kind of chips (serious)
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7184 Posts
March 19 2016 23:58 GMT
#20839
On March 20 2016 08:47 Rockafellalp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 08:42 Luolis wrote:
Won a bo3 for a bag of chips and red bull today! Yayyy!

What kind of chips (serious)

Ill prolly take some of these [image loading]
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
March 20 2016 00:46 GMT
#20840
Those look boss. I want some now. Mail'em over pls :D
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