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Kipsate
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On March 18 2016 21:14 Aocowns wrote: Time for Happy to take over for a last huzzah at the next major? if they dont at least get out of group play or maybe semis, I'm not sure how long this core line-up is gonna last Yeah, I'm actually very puzzled about this. Where did it go wrong...? | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
Valve majors are great and all that, but they make most tournaments worthless, im not making excuses but it feels like that. The idea of getting invited just for being top 8 means you could drop the ball every single month and step it up near or in the major and GGWP holy shit guardian that collateral shot | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On March 18 2016 21:27 Ragnarork wrote: Yeah, I'm actually very puzzled about this. Where did it go wrong...? it's as clear as water, after reading kioshima's statement again he has been taken as a scapegoat for the problems within the team and as far as i can tell i'm sure happy and kennys are the main problem here apex and nbk are the only tryharder here you can't go to the major losing to NRG 3 weeks before this is a joke | ||
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Faruko
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Luolis
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On March 18 2016 22:00 Luolis wrote: I think nbk calling was a terrible choice for envy. Honestly id wish for it to change back to Happy calling Didn't they get bad pretty much exactly when NBK started calling? | ||
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Aocowns
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On March 18 2016 22:03 Aocowns wrote: no they were already faairly bad at that point, they just havent really improved after it i think. it's always "next time, next time, need more work" Alright! That's tough x_x | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On March 18 2016 21:47 Makro wrote: it's as clear as water, after reading kioshima's statement again he has been taken as a scapegoat for the problems within the team and as far as i can tell i'm sure happy and kennys are the main problem here apex and nbk are the only tryharder here you can't go to the major losing to NRG 3 weeks before this is a joke I'd really like to know how you came up to the conclusion that Happy and kennyS are the problem, or that kio was a scapegoat. The internal issues are here, there was a confidence issue between kio and the other four apparently, but further than that, there's not much that hints at what the real problem(s) is(are). On March 18 2016 22:00 Luolis wrote: I think nbk calling was a terrible choice for envy. Honestly id wish for it to change back to Happy calling I don't think it was a terrible choice at that point. NBK has experience as a leader, he has an excellent game awareness and versatility. Thing is, that's not enough and he might not be an extremely good leader to compensate for how bad the team fares right now. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
flash news boys, you cant be at the top all the time, you will fail, you will hit the bottom, you just need to work your way up slowly, doing what you think its best. edit: some wording | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On March 18 2016 22:50 Faruko wrote: Why can they be on a slump ? Even Barcelona had one flash news boys, you cant be at the top all the time, you will fail, you will hit the bottom, you just need to work your way up slowly but surely, doing what you think its best. Everybody understands that, but Nv's fall was sudden and rough. Teams rarely slump so hard that they'll go from top3 in the world to losing against some random US team with a stand-in. Odds are Astralis will mop the floor with the team that beat Nv, remember that those two teams used to be near the same level. It's not that they're not at the top, it's how fast they've dropped from the top. When Fnatic starts to faulter, it won't be this dramatic at first. A Fnatic slump would be them losing to other top10 teams more often than usual, but it would be very surprising if Fnatic lost a bo3 to some random team. | ||
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Kipsate
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On March 18 2016 23:10 Kipsate wrote: Astralis should have this, esp given no Fnatic. Astralis vs. Navi is a pushover?  On March 18 2016 23:12 Kipsate wrote: Nv's Fall wasn't sudden they haven't been looking great for a long time now. They dropped from grace pretty hard nonetheless I'd say. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Unless Guardian shows up bigtime against Astralis(very possible actually, he has been looking gooooood). I don't think Navi will beat Astralis in a bo5(finals is Bo5 right?). | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On March 18 2016 23:15 Kipsate wrote: They dropped hard from being the unquestionably best team in the world to this state but they have had problems for quite a while already. Unless Guardian shows up bigtime against Astralis(very possible actually, he has been looking gooooood). I don't think Navi will beat Astralis in a bo5(finals is Bo5 right?). I believe it's a best of 3. Nonetheless Nv was only very briefly "unquestionably" the best team in the world and that was many months ago before the Fnatic era, they dropped down from there over the second half of 2015 or whatever but this current slump is 1 or 2 notches down from where they were even in late 2015. Late 2015 Nv was not at their peak, now they're at their worst probably since the LDLC days, despite global esports cup that they won - it wasn't the highest level of competition. | ||
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Kipsate
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On March 18 2016 23:24 Kipsate wrote: In a bo3 I can see Navi winning but I still hope for Astralis;; Poor soul... | ||
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