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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 21 2015 06:06 GMT
#20301
Did you forget how how fire KennyS was at the beginning of the year though? If equal importance is placed on the first half, KennyS has a chance.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 21 2015 06:34 GMT
#20302
KennyS has no chance if consistency also plays a factor.
WriterXiao8~~
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
December 21 2015 06:51 GMT
#20303
Actually I forgot how bad last year's rankings were so I'm not even gonna try to guess.

olof undoubtedly #1 though. device/GuardiaN filling out the top three in whatever order.
Writer
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8709 Posts
December 21 2015 10:27 GMT
#20304
On December 21 2015 14:23 Souma wrote:
2015 top five is probably something like...

olof, device, GuardiaN, flusha, Happy

in that order.


Pretty accurate imho. Only not sure about flusha, especially when it's an "official" ranking and they probably put someone like kio up there.
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
December 21 2015 10:48 GMT
#20305
On December 21 2015 15:51 Souma wrote:
Actually I forgot how bad last year's rankings were so I'm not even gonna try to guess.

Pretty much this!
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
December 21 2015 11:26 GMT
#20306
Well, I feel like this year will be difficult to fak up, although anything is possible I suppose
I will definately let out a sad moose cry if flusha and krimz don't make top 10 tho
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7196 Posts
December 21 2015 11:58 GMT
#20307
If allu isnt in top 20 i will be really sad
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 21 2015 15:50 GMT
#20308
On December 21 2015 20:58 Luolis wrote:
If allu isnt in top 20 i will be really sad


You are probably looking at being sad then.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7196 Posts
December 21 2015 16:21 GMT
#20309
On December 22 2015 00:50 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 20:58 Luolis wrote:
If allu isnt in top 20 i will be really sad


You are probably looking at being sad then.

Not necessarily. Allu was quite good this year.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 17:18:25
December 21 2015 17:04 GMT
#20310
20 players is a lot but considering that the top 4 teams are VP, nV, TSM, Fnatic I would rate all of the players within them higher then Allu already.

Then you also have people like Rain, Dennis, Guardian, Flamie, Seized, Get_Right, F0rest, hell even Simple.

Allu no chance my friend.

Edit: 4, not 5.
WriterXiao8~~
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 21 2015 17:14 GMT
#20311
On December 22 2015 02:04 Kipsate wrote:
20 players is a lot but considering that the top 5 teams are VP, nV, TSM, Fnatic I would rate all of the players within them higher then Allu already.

Then you also have people like Rain, Dennis, Guardian, Flamie, Seized, Get_Right, F0rest, hell even Simple.

Allu no chance my friend.

I feel like Rain doesn't have enough accomplishments for a top20 spot.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 17:17:59
December 21 2015 17:17 GMT
#20312
I just put some names in contention with Allu, I didn't neccesarily say that they all belong in top 20.

Rain has been pretty good though and a cornerstone of G2's success on being able to challenge any of the top 5, something that NiP has struggled with quite a bit.

Wouldn't put him in top 20 but I woudlnt be so sure that Allu outperformed Rain.
WriterXiao8~~
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 21:53:30
December 21 2015 17:59 GMT
#20313
On December 21 2015 15:34 Kipsate wrote:
KennyS has no chance if consistency also plays a factor.

Of course consistency should play a factor. The only thing i am pointing out is that it is easier for people to praise the second half of the year because it is easier to remember. Guardian or device did not have as good a first half as kennyS, and to decide if they were more consistent in that first half then kennyS was in the second half is an even more subjective topic. In addition, there was also the AWP nerf and the changing of teams he went through during the year, whIch can also be considered.

If we go down to my actual opinion though, I don't think he should be in Top 5. I can see an argument for him though. Top 5 to 10 I would say for sure probably.

Edit:I misunderstood somewhat, apologies.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 21 2015 20:29 GMT
#20314
HLTV does their rankings purely by their own rating system which is basically just KDA with some modifications.
Writer@WriterYamato
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 21 2015 21:46 GMT
#20315
Ya that ranking system should be developed around flusha being #1 .
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 21 2015 23:06 GMT
#20316
On December 22 2015 02:04 Kipsate wrote:
20 players is a lot but considering that the top 4 teams are VP, nV, TSM, Fnatic I would rate all of the players within them higher then Allu already.

Then you also have people like Rain, Dennis, Guardian, Flamie, Seized, Get_Right, F0rest, hell even Simple.

Allu no chance my friend.

Edit: 4, not 5.


Yeah, I like Allu but he didnt have a top 20 year.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 22 2015 00:46 GMT
#20317
looks like rip NA cs
WriterXiao8~~
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7196 Posts
December 22 2015 01:16 GMT
#20318
On December 22 2015 09:46 Kipsate wrote:
looks like rip NA cs

Sadly
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
December 22 2015 02:01 GMT
#20319
On December 22 2015 09:46 Kipsate wrote:
looks like rip NA cs

What happened?
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
December 22 2015 02:26 GMT
#20320
On December 22 2015 11:01 Kotreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2015 09:46 Kipsate wrote:
looks like rip NA cs

What happened?



Literally nothing.
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