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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1963 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-14 12:50:51
September 14 2018 10:10 GMT
#29021
Could someone explain, why people go for elemental focus on crit based lightning builds? To me it sounds like the shock chance should be worth more then the damage the support gives compared to other supports? At least on bosses that should be the case, right?

Edit: I guess the damage done by one attack is usually not high enough on bosses to give a big shock amplifier?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 14 2018 12:52 GMT
#29022
On September 14 2018 19:10 Broetchenholer wrote:
Could someone explain, why people go for elemental focus on crit based lightning builds? To me it sounds like the shock chance should be worth more then the damage the support gives compared to other supports? At least on bosses that should be the case, right?

Edit: I guess the damage done by one attack is usually not high enough on bosses to give a big shock amplifier?

Correct. Trash dies to anything anyways and bosses are harder to shock unless you build around it or you are an Elementalist.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
September 14 2018 13:12 GMT
#29023
Shock is a bit of a weird mechanic right now as you need to do huge damage to a boss to get a decent amount of shock. But if you are able to deal that much damage you dont really need the shock anyway
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1963 Posts
September 14 2018 13:25 GMT
#29024
Thanks
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
September 14 2018 18:53 GMT
#29025
I don't know if i really agree with the above statement about shock.

Last league I played a power siphon inquisitor that was largely lightning focused and I could shock basically any map boss in the game, yet my single target damage was still abysmal (albeit much better than kb)
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 14 2018 19:19 GMT
#29026
the ability to shock a target and the ability to shock a target an amount that meaningfully increases the damage that it takes are different.

Keep in mind that shock got reworked however many patches ago so that the shock that you apply to an enemy can increase their incoming damage anywhere from 1 to 50%, and that against bosses achieving a small 1-5% shock isn't so hard but also isn't helpful.
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CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
September 15 2018 03:21 GMT
#29027
i actually had no idea that they made shock that bad, why? lol
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
September 15 2018 03:22 GMT
#29028
That makes shock pointless, like super super pointless. I had no idea.
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 15 2018 05:56 GMT
#29029
I mean it's possible to shock bosses significantly but you have to do a certain percentage of their life in a single hit to do so and it ends up being meaningless if you hit that hard anyway.

Elementalist bypasses that with a guaranteed minimum 20% shock
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 15 2018 06:02 GMT
#29030
Found the last uber lab trial in SSF Delve yesterday, man that took ages. Still don't regret playing SSF at all, I'm enjoying it more tbh, quite refreshing to actually use currency and not buy your gear. Also helps that Delve is a great league.
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
September 15 2018 12:52 GMT
#29031
On September 15 2018 12:21 CrownRoyal wrote:
i actually had no idea that they made shock that bad, why? lol


Every build was running vaal lightning trap for free 50% more multiplier
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-16 08:54:36
September 16 2018 08:52 GMT
#29032
On September 15 2018 21:52 Zavior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 12:21 CrownRoyal wrote:
i actually had no idea that they made shock that bad, why? lol


Every build was running vaal lightning trap for free 50% more multiplier

That is not the reason. Vaal Lightning trap skill guarantees shock but for 15% now.
Changes to shock were to make it more useful, it was even more useless before because the calculations were the same but they determined how long it lasted. Now it has guaranteed 2s duration and they put a lot of shock effectiveness and duration on the tree. You can make a Elementalist that has guaranteed 50% shock fairly easy.
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany830 Posts
September 16 2018 19:33 GMT
#29033
guys ? guys ? I told you I'd be back at the end of the weekend... but it might take a tiny bit longer ...

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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-17 17:32:17
September 16 2018 22:22 GMT
#29034
Hey guys could you please invite me into the guild.

Delve character - ToxicGirlz
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1200 Posts
September 18 2018 17:06 GMT
#29035
On September 13 2018 23:38 PoulsenB wrote:
Just wanted to say that Delve is the best league yet, both in general and for me as a player. I did my first red map; I killed my first Elder; I think overall I've made and spent more currency than in any other league I played; and most of all after two weeks of playing 4+ hours a day I still am hyped to play and there's so many things I can't wait to do. In short: Delve is amazing!


Wait until you get one shot in deep delves :D
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lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 19:44:33
September 19 2018 18:52 GMT
#29036
I feel like I have to share this trade with you guys, as I'm sure none of you have had quite something like it.

I've been looking for a Apep's Supremacy for pretty much the whole league. They have been incredibly scarce throughout Delve. On average one is posted each week in HC, and they are generally very sought after.

So just about now one guy posted one for 17 ex. I immediatly bidded, and the guy said that he was being flooded.
I quickly up the offer to 20 exalts... plus I'll sing for him...
You might get an idea where we are heading, but I'll carry on the story.

Basically he said he got offers for 30 exalt, but he also added "if you sing to me, its yours"

I'm thinking here that he's just fooling around - but I reply "Okay, lets do this!"

Fast forward we are in his hideout, picking a songs and agreeing to terms how it should be done.
I get to be masked, and I get to distort the voice slightly.

We pick Whitesnake, as the shield I'm buying is a fucking snake that you hold in your hand. My characters name is also GretaOrmtunga, which translates to GretaSnaketounge.

I slap on my, still unwrapped, Atlas of Worlds T-shirt from an supporter pack that I received earlier and starting disguising my face with some clothes.

I practice the song a couple of times, as I had never heard of it before.
Then I record myself bobbing and awfully singing out of key.

I just sent him the video, and we just traded.

I am now one Apep's Supremacy richer, but I've lost two points of dignity.
10/10 trade experience, would never ever do it again.
Flying Tushin!!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-19 19:51:08
September 19 2018 19:34 GMT
#29037
Hahahaha, what the fuck dude. If you're serious, nicely done, lol.

I killed Shaper in SSF just now with my Zombie+Dom blow necro. Now to decide which map to use Elder Orb on... so hard to decide. :D
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2866 Posts
September 19 2018 20:07 GMT
#29038
On September 20 2018 03:52 lgd-haze wrote:
I feel like I have to share this trade with you guys, as I'm sure none of you have had quite something like it.

I've been looking for a Apep's Supremacy for pretty much the whole league. They have been incredibly scarce throughout Delve. On average one is posted each week in HC, and they are generally very sought after.

So just about now one guy posted one for 17 ex. I immediatly bidded, and the guy said that he was being flooded.
I quickly up the offer to 20 exalts... plus I'll sing for him...
You might get an idea where we are heading, but I'll carry on the story.

Basically he said he got offers for 30 exalt, but he also added "if you sing to me, its yours"

I'm thinking here that he's just fooling around - but I reply "Okay, lets do this!"

Fast forward we are in his hideout, picking a songs and agreeing to terms how it should be done.
I get to be masked, and I get to distort the voice slightly.

We pick Whitesnake, as the shield I'm buying is a fucking snake that you hold in your hand. My characters name is also GretaOrmtunga, which translates to GretaSnaketounge.

I slap on my, still unwrapped, Atlas of Worlds T-shirt from an supporter pack that I received earlier and starting disguising my face with some clothes.

I practice the song a couple of times, as I had never heard of it before.
Then I record myself bobbing and awfully singing out of key.

I just sent him the video, and we just traded.

I am now one Apep's Supremacy richer, but I've lost two points of dignity.
10/10 trade experience, would never ever do it again.

What a hero.
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1256 Posts
September 19 2018 21:37 GMT
#29039
On September 20 2018 03:52 lgd-haze wrote:
I feel like I have to share this trade with you guys, as I'm sure none of you have had quite something like it.

I've been looking for a Apep's Supremacy for pretty much the whole league. They have been incredibly scarce throughout Delve. On average one is posted each week in HC, and they are generally very sought after.

So just about now one guy posted one for 17 ex. I immediatly bidded, and the guy said that he was being flooded.
I quickly up the offer to 20 exalts... plus I'll sing for him...
You might get an idea where we are heading, but I'll carry on the story.

Basically he said he got offers for 30 exalt, but he also added "if you sing to me, its yours"

I'm thinking here that he's just fooling around - but I reply "Okay, lets do this!"

Fast forward we are in his hideout, picking a songs and agreeing to terms how it should be done.
I get to be masked, and I get to distort the voice slightly.

We pick Whitesnake, as the shield I'm buying is a fucking snake that you hold in your hand. My characters name is also GretaOrmtunga, which translates to GretaSnaketounge.

I slap on my, still unwrapped, Atlas of Worlds T-shirt from an supporter pack that I received earlier and starting disguising my face with some clothes.

I practice the song a couple of times, as I had never heard of it before.
Then I record myself bobbing and awfully singing out of key.

I just sent him the video, and we just traded.

I am now one Apep's Supremacy richer, but I've lost two points of dignity.
10/10 trade experience, would never ever do it again.

Ok, that's just amazing. Totally worth it!
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 20 2018 10:16 GMT
#29040
LOL, well played man.

The real question: Where's the corresponding reddit post?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
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