Bundesliga is getting better and better but is still below La Liga.
2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 397
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Vernom
Spain374 Posts
Bundesliga is getting better and better but is still below La Liga. | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On May 06 2012 18:08 Vernom wrote: This.German people is getting cocky with their league. Bundesliga is getting better and better but is still below La Liga. EPL >> La Liga > Bundesliga > Seria A imo. Really, getting far in Europa League isn't as huge of a deal as people make it out to be. If god damned Fulham can get to finals who cannot do it? | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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graan
Germany589 Posts
But, in my opinion, this gap hurt real so much in the semis.. they had like the easiest run to the semi, not one serious match ( bayerns was easy too i know, but not even close to reals way.. ) and played 3(4) 'hard' games vs barca hole season.. then they played one top team playing a different style and they shit their pants two games. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
On May 06 2012 18:51 graan wrote: If Barcelona would play in the Bundesliga they would destroy every single team just like they do in spain, only dortmund and bayern, and im not even sure about that, could stand a chance. just look at leverkusen, only 3 month ago.. 6 messi goals in two games against no.5 finisher at our bundesliga.. you guys realy have to acknowledge how good barcelona/real is.. sure there is a huge gap between them and the rest of the league, but that would be just the same in germany.. But, in my opinion, this gap hurt real so much in the semis.. they had like the easiest run to the semi, not one serious match ( bayerns was easy too i know, but not even close to reals way.. ) and played 3(4) 'hard' games vs barca hole season.. then they played one top team playing a different style and they shit their pants two games. Having the El Clasico between the semis was the achiles heel for Barca and Real IMO. | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
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rapture
Germany645 Posts
On May 06 2012 18:51 graan wrote: If Barcelona would play in the Bundesliga they would destroy every single team just like they do in spain, only dortmund and bayern, and im not even sure about that, could stand a chance. just look at leverkusen, only 3 month ago.. 6 messi goals in two games against no.5 finisher at our bundesliga.. you guys realy have to acknowledge how good barcelona/real is.. sure there is a huge gap between them and the rest of the league, but that would be just the same in germany.. But, in my opinion, this gap hurt real so much in the semis.. they had like the easiest run to the semi, not one serious match ( bayerns was easy too i know, but not even close to reals way.. ) and played 3(4) 'hard' games vs barca hole season.. then they played one top team playing a different style and they shit their pants two games. we have discussed this thousands of times already. real/barca would do very good in any league they would play in epl/seria a/bundesliga. would they totally destroy every single team in it? No. Justifying their CL drop out because they only had to play easy opponents till then is just plain stupid, disrespecting and also of course not true. yes they declassed Leverkusen, but Lev was having a bad series while also loosing 4 times in Bundesliga during that time. Sometimes you have bad series/games - thats football. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On May 06 2012 18:24 Elem wrote: This. EPL >> La Liga > Bundesliga > Seria A imo. Really, getting far in Europa League isn't as huge of a deal as people make it out to be. If god damned Fulham can get to finals who cannot do it? Rating EPL higher than La Liga after this season is absurd. | ||
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graan
Germany589 Posts
On May 06 2012 18:59 rapture wrote: we have discussed this thousands of times already. real/barca would do very good in any league they would play in epl/seria a/bundesliga. would they totally destroy every single team in it? No. Justifying their CL drop out because they only had to play easy opponents till then is just plain stupid, disrespecting and also of course not true. yes they declassed Leverkusen, but Lev was having a bad series while also loosing 4 times in Bundesliga during that time. Sometimes you have bad series/games - thats football. I want to say they wouldnt, but if u look at the facts its not the case.. #3,7 finisher in Bundesliga loosing to #5,9 in Spain in decisive fashion, and these teams do take euro league serious, sure manu/city dont but these clubs do. Leverkusen won btw 4 days befor their 7:1 slaugther 2:0 against bayern. They even had almost even score against valencia in groups, take that as u want.. If u look at reals run, zagreb ajax lyon in groups, zska moskau in round of 16 and nikosia in quarters, i dont see how this is disrespecting to any of those clubs if the play against real madrid, huge favoritein every single match. Sure thats only my opinion, playing classico between those games is another good reason and you can find many more. Barca should never ever have lost against this chelsea, i think i realy dont have to go into this.. | ||
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andis35
Latvia346 Posts
On May 06 2012 19:03 Maenander wrote: Rating EPL higher than La Liga after this season is absurd. How many La Liga teams are in CL finals? | ||
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Retric
Germany284 Posts
On May 06 2012 18:51 graan wrote: If Barcelona would play in the Bundesliga they would destroy every single team just like they do in spain, only dortmund and bayern, and im not even sure about that, could stand a chance. just look at leverkusen, only 3 month ago.. 6 messi goals in two games against no.5 finisher at our bundesliga.. you guys realy have to acknowledge how good barcelona/real is.. sure there is a huge gap between them and the rest of the league, but that would be just the same in germany.. But, in my opinion, this gap hurt real so much in the semis.. they had like the easiest run to the semi, not one serious match ( bayerns was easy too i know, but not even close to reals way.. ) and played 3(4) 'hard' games vs barca hole season.. then they played one top team playing a different style and they shit their pants two games. Leverkusen 2 - 0 Bayern -> Barca 7 - 1 Leverkusen -> Barca 1 - 2 Real -> Bayern 2 - 1 Real | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On May 06 2012 18:48 sc4k wrote: I couldn't put Bundesliga above Serie A. But UEFA could ![]() On May 06 2012 10:38 Kaesebrot wrote: Europa League HAHAHAHA! No good team cares about that shit! Even if you win it you get only like 7 Mio. ...its better to get Top4 in Premier League/Bundesliga to get the 20 Mio. if you reach CL. BundesLiga/PL > Spain/Italy League but NOT EVEN CLOSE. Messi would get destroyed in the PL. CR7 is so much better, he scores most of his goals against good teams and Messi only scores against these 3rd tier teams 10-20 in spain, that wouldn't even make the 1st Division in Germany/England. Oh please, don't make me feel embarassed for being a Bundesliga fan! Schalke lost to Bilbao and Leverkusen got destroyed by Barcelona, La Liga has great quality that's a fact. That and Messi did score a lot of goals against the top6 in the league. And your beloved Dortmund should prove their international class in the Champions League before you praise the Bundesliga to high heaven. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
In the europe league semifinals, 3 out of 4 teams are spanish while ManCity and ManU got kicked out. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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rapture
Germany645 Posts
On May 06 2012 19:36 graan wrote: I want to say they wouldnt, but if u look at the facts its not the case.. #3,7 finisher in Bundesliga loosing to #5,9 in Spain in decisive fashion, and these teams do take euro league serious, sure manu/city dont but these clubs do. Leverkusen won btw 4 days befor their 7:1 slaugther 2:0 against bayern. They even had almost even score against valencia in groups, take that as u want.. If u look at reals run, zagreb ajax lyon in groups, zska moskau in round of 16 and nikosia in quarters, i dont see how this is disrespecting to any of those clubs if the play against real madrid, huge favoritein every single match. Sure thats only my opinion, playing classico between those games is another good reason and you can find many more. Barca should never ever have lost against this chelsea, i think i realy dont have to go into this.. well I will not disagree with you when your point is that la liga > bundesliga. Yes Leverkusen won before that against Bayern, when they played their best game of the season by far. They also went 2nd in a group with chelsea (who lost to leverkusen once and barely went first because leverkusen wasnt able to win against genk in their last game). They won games against both CL finalists and clearly lost against Barca - so one might think the skill gap isn't as clear as you might think. What is your point with Real? Are you saying they lost to bayern because they had easier opponents before that? rofl | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6257 Posts
On May 06 2012 19:47 Salteador Neo wrote: La Liga teams only look bad because Madrid and Barcelona make them look bad lol. People talking shit about Messi makes me laugh hard at the clueless fools :D In the europe league semifinals, 3 out of 4 teams are spanish while ManCity and ManU got kicked out. Indeed teams like Valencia, Bilbao and Atletico are real good teams it's just that they always compete with 2 teams that have been in godmode the last few years. | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2095 Posts
On May 06 2012 19:47 Salteador Neo wrote: La Liga teams only look bad because Madrid and Barcelona make them look bad lol. People talking shit about Messi makes me laugh hard at the clueless fools :D In the europe league semifinals, 3 out of 4 teams are spanish while ManCity and ManU got kicked out. Agreed. If it's so easy to score 50 goals why hasn't anyone but messi and cr7 done it? Look at europa league with la ligas mid tier teams, bundesliga and epl and see what teams got demolished and furthest. Don't underestimate Bilbao, Valencia, Atletico Madrid (where falcao has been scoring like crazy and is for the 2nd time the biggest goal scorer in europa league) | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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Tyree
1508 Posts
MAYBE winning it.Germany - Dortmund Spain - Real Madrid Italy - Juventus England - Man City | ||
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SnowyPsilocybin
United Kingdom265 Posts
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