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paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 05 2012 23:51 GMT
#7901
and i dont want to say messi is bad or something, hes obviously an amazing player.
but he wouldnt score 50 goals in the premierleague or bundesliga.
Vernom
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Spain374 Posts
May 05 2012 23:58 GMT
#7902
On May 06 2012 08:51 paschl wrote:
and i dont want to say messi is bad or something, hes obviously an amazing player.
but he wouldnt score 50 goals in the premierleague or bundesliga.


No, he would score 80 goals in the bundesliga
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 06 2012 00:03 GMT
#7903
not even close.
the spanish teams at the top may be better than the bundesliga (although we have a cl finalist ;p) but over the broad spectrum the teams are stronger than they are in spain. (imo)
Retric
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany284 Posts
May 06 2012 00:03 GMT
#7904
On May 06 2012 08:58 Vernom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 08:51 paschl wrote:
and i dont want to say messi is bad or something, hes obviously an amazing player.
but he wouldnt score 50 goals in the premierleague or bundesliga.


No, he would score 80 goals in the bundesliga


looks like you never watched bundesliga
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
May 06 2012 00:32 GMT
#7905
On May 06 2012 08:51 paschl wrote:
and i dont want to say messi is bad or something, hes obviously an amazing player.
but he wouldnt score 50 goals in the premierleague or bundesliga.


Who even cares? He scored 50 goals in one of the best leagues in the world? Is that not enough? The whole he wouldn't make it in EPL, he wouldn't score this much with this team or that team in this league or that league is stupid. He's done it. It does not matter with what team he did it.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 06 2012 00:34 GMT
#7906
it kinda does. a friend of mine scored >50 goals in a season too.
when he was 13. he still did it, right?
Kaesebrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany128 Posts
May 06 2012 00:35 GMT
#7907
On May 06 2012 08:58 Vernom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 08:51 paschl wrote:
and i dont want to say messi is bad or something, hes obviously an amazing player.
but he wouldnt score 50 goals in the premierleague or bundesliga.


No, he would score 80 goals in the bundesliga


GTFO! Spain has 2 great teams and the rest is crap! Look at all these 7-0 wins. that doesn't happen that often in Bundesliga, because the lower/midtier teams aren't that bad like in spain. Spains League is so boring compared to Premier League or Bundesliga.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
May 06 2012 00:36 GMT
#7908
On May 06 2012 09:34 paschl wrote:
it kinda does. a friend of mine scored >50 goals in a season too.
when he was 13. he still did it, right?


We are talking about top european football not about little kids. As much as people tend to think that La Liga has only 4-5 teams they're very wrong. It's not like Bundesliga has many good teams either. Same for EPL or Serie A.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 06 2012 00:43 GMT
#7909
place 3 in spain is 30 points behind place 2.
aorn 6 teams have a positive goal difference (barce/real +80). of the 14 that dont. 8 have -double digits. of those 8 5 are worse than -20 (one at -19).
dont fool yourself.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
May 06 2012 01:02 GMT
#7910
On May 06 2012 09:35 Kaesebrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 08:58 Vernom wrote:
On May 06 2012 08:51 paschl wrote:
and i dont want to say messi is bad or something, hes obviously an amazing player.
but he wouldnt score 50 goals in the premierleague or bundesliga.


No, he would score 80 goals in the bundesliga


GTFO! Spain has 2 great teams and the rest is crap! Look at all these 7-0 wins. that doesn't happen that often in Bundesliga, because the lower/midtier teams aren't that bad like in spain. Spains League is so boring compared to Premier League or Bundesliga.


And then Athletic comes and kicks Man.U out of europa league, hellyeah.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 06 2012 01:09 GMT
#7911
Can you idiots just shut up with your bullshit? I see two spanish teams in the Europa League final, #9 and #5 in La Liga, knocking out top teams from EPL and Bundesliga such as Manchester United and Schalke 04 on their way. Enough retardation here; La Liga is nowhere near as bad as you make it out to be.

And bringing up kids football; really? I mean, really? Did you think what you said was relevant in any way whatsoever?

Messi scoring 50 fucking goals in one of the top leagues in the world is an insanely remarkable feat no matter how you look at it.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
May 06 2012 01:14 GMT
#7912
On May 06 2012 10:09 Holgerius wrote:
Can you idiots just shut up with your bullshit? I see two spanish teams in the Europa League final, #9 and #5 in La Liga, knocking out top teams from EPL and Bundesliga such as Manchester United and Schalke 04 on their way. Enough retardation here; La Liga is nowhere near as bad as you make it out to be.

And bringing up kids football; really? I mean, really? Did you think what you said was relevant in any way whatsoever?

Messi scoring 50 fucking goals in one of the top leagues in the world is an insanely remarkable feat no matter how you look at it.


Thank you. Faith in humanity restored.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 01:18:45
May 06 2012 01:17 GMT
#7913
On May 06 2012 04:49 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 04:38 Zhiroo wrote:
Is it really true that Kagawa is leaving BVB?


Hes had a wage doubling contract on offer from Dortmund hes refused to take and pretty much told PL clubs "come get me" or Im going to United later dudes.

Oh yea and also something about Lewandowski being a selfish cunt whod score more goals if he put his head up and learnt to make a pass.

Beyond that there isnt anything concrete.


That Lewandowski remark was a mistranslation of the BILD newspaper.
Seriously you believe what they write?

And concerning Messi, he hasnt scored the really important goals this season.
Kaesebrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 01:39:31
May 06 2012 01:38 GMT
#7914
Can you idiots just shut up with your bullshit? I see two spanish teams in the Europa League


Europa League HAHAHAHA! No good team cares about that shit! Even if you win it you get only like 7 Mio. ...its better to get Top4 in Premier League/Bundesliga to get the 20 Mio. if you reach CL.

BundesLiga/PL > Spain/Italy League but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Messi would get destroyed in the PL. CR7 is so much better, he scores most of his goals against good teams and Messi only scores against these 3rd tier teams 10-20 in spain, that wouldn't even make the 1st Division in Germany/England.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
May 06 2012 01:41 GMT
#7915
These arguments are pointless.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 06 2012 01:46 GMT
#7916
On May 06 2012 10:38 Kaesebrot wrote:
CR7 is so much better, .


Well that explains it,xD, so we can start ignoring him now.

On topic, I'm at a loss for words bout Messi. I just feel lucky to watch him play.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
May 06 2012 01:46 GMT
#7917
On May 06 2012 10:38 Kaesebrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
Can you idiots just shut up with your bullshit? I see two spanish teams in the Europa League


Europa League HAHAHAHA! No good team cares about that shit! Even if you win it you get only like 7 Mio. ...its better to get Top4 in Premier League/Bundesliga to get the 20 Mio. if you reach CL.

BundesLiga/PL > Spain/Italy League but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Messi would get destroyed in the PL. CR7 is so much better, he scores most of his goals against good teams and Messi only scores against these 3rd tier teams 10-20 in spain, that wouldn't even make the 1st Division in Germany/England.


Does anyone talk about what teams Muller scored those 67 goals? Or what teams Pele scored those 66 goals of his? Nope. So what teams Messi scored them doesn't matter.

Also if CR7 is so much better why doesn't he have 80 goals or something? Please explain.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
May 06 2012 01:48 GMT
#7918
On May 06 2012 10:46 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 10:38 Kaesebrot wrote:
Can you idiots just shut up with your bullshit? I see two spanish teams in the Europa League


Europa League HAHAHAHA! No good team cares about that shit! Even if you win it you get only like 7 Mio. ...its better to get Top4 in Premier League/Bundesliga to get the 20 Mio. if you reach CL.

BundesLiga/PL > Spain/Italy League but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Messi would get destroyed in the PL. CR7 is so much better, he scores most of his goals against good teams and Messi only scores against these 3rd tier teams 10-20 in spain, that wouldn't even make the 1st Division in Germany/England.


Does anyone talk about what teams Muller scored those 67 goals? Or what teams Pele scored those 66 goals of his? Nope. So what teams Messi scored them doesn't matter.

Also if CR7 is so much better why doesn't he have 80 goals or something? Please explain.


Müller und Pele have both scored like crazy for their national teams too.
Messi didnt.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
May 06 2012 01:53 GMT
#7919
On May 06 2012 10:48 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 10:46 Zhiroo wrote:
On May 06 2012 10:38 Kaesebrot wrote:
Can you idiots just shut up with your bullshit? I see two spanish teams in the Europa League


Europa League HAHAHAHA! No good team cares about that shit! Even if you win it you get only like 7 Mio. ...its better to get Top4 in Premier League/Bundesliga to get the 20 Mio. if you reach CL.

BundesLiga/PL > Spain/Italy League but NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Messi would get destroyed in the PL. CR7 is so much better, he scores most of his goals against good teams and Messi only scores against these 3rd tier teams 10-20 in spain, that wouldn't even make the 1st Division in Germany/England.


Does anyone talk about what teams Muller scored those 67 goals? Or what teams Pele scored those 66 goals of his? Nope. So what teams Messi scored them doesn't matter.

Also if CR7 is so much better why doesn't he have 80 goals or something? Please explain.


Müller und Pele have both scored like crazy for their national teams too.
Messi didnt.


Muller and Pele were lucky to have competent team mates and coaches which Messi sadly didn't have yet for Argentina. Also he still has time to score a lot of goals for his national team, he's only 24 years old. (Wether he'll do it that's another question and remains yet to be seen.)

Besides even Maradona didn't score much goals for Argentina. (Messi has a 0.32 goal per game ratio whereas Diego had a 0.37 ratio)
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 08:58:14
May 06 2012 08:55 GMT
#7920
If it's so easy to score that much, why doesn't anyone else do it. You don't see any of messi's or ronaldo's team-mates scoring anywhere near as much. Ronaldo has more goals than benzema and higuain combined or something, and they are both top top strikers.

On May 06 2012 10:46 Zhiroo wrote:
Also if CR7 is so much better why doesn't he have 80 goals or something? Please explain.


argument only works if you factor in goals scored. What about how many times ronaldo seemingly won a game on his own for madrid etc. But no one will agree with each other anyway.
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