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On May 06 2012 20:03 rapture wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 19:36 graan wrote:On May 06 2012 18:59 rapture wrote:
we have discussed this thousands of times already. real/barca would do very good in any league they would play in epl/seria a/bundesliga. would they totally destroy every single team in it? No. Justifying their CL drop out because they only had to play easy opponents till then is just plain stupid, disrespecting and also of course not true. yes they declassed Leverkusen, but Lev was having a bad series while also loosing 4 times in Bundesliga during that time. Sometimes you have bad series/games - thats football. I want to say they wouldnt, but if u look at the facts its not the case.. #3,7 finisher in Bundesliga loosing to #5,9 in Spain in decisive fashion, and these teams do take euro league serious, sure manu/city dont but these clubs do. Leverkusen won btw 4 days befor their 7:1 slaugther 2:0 against bayern. They even had almost even score against valencia in groups, take that as u want.. If u look at reals run, zagreb ajax lyon in groups, zska moskau in round of 16 and nikosia in quarters, i dont see how this is disrespecting to any of those clubs if the play against real madrid, huge favoritein every single match. Sure thats only my opinion, playing classico between those games is another good reason and you can find many more. Barca should never ever have lost against this chelsea, i think i realy dont have to go into this.. well I will not disagree with you when your point is that la liga > bundesliga. Yes Leverkusen won before that against Bayern, when they played their best game of the season by far. They also went 2nd in a group with chelsea (who lost to leverkusen once and barely went first because leverkusen wasnt able to win against genk in their last game). They won games against both CL finalists and clearly lost against Barca - so one might think the skill gap isn't as clear as you might think. What is your point with Real? Are you saying they lost to bayern because they had easier opponents before that? rofl
I'm saying real was only realy challenged in 4 games, including the classico between the semi. All against the same team playing the same style. Then they have to play against bayern, who are, in my opinion ofc, better than average la liga teams but not as good, on the paper, as real. They had a huge problem, in both games, to adjust to our winger heavy play and a big moral problem too.
What i'm saying is that if they had to play more 'hard' games during the season they would have played better against bayern than they did.
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PL >> Bundesliga >>>>>>> Spain/Seria A imo.
Seriously, Spain League is a Joke. When was the last time a Team other than Barca/Real won the Championship? Its always Real/Barca and the Rest is 30pts behind. Sooo boring, No competition at all!
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On May 06 2012 20:34 Kaesebrot wrote:
PL >> Bundesliga >>>>>>> Spain/Seria A imo.
Seriously, Spain League is a Joke. When was the last time a Team other than Barca/Real won the Championship? Its always Real/Barca and the Rest is 30pts behind. Sooo boring, No competition at all!
Reading your posts make me doubt humanity's intelligence.
Plz. take off your fanatic glasses and turn on the brain.
Too much fanboyism/hate/envy in your posts....
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On May 06 2012 20:34 Kaesebrot wrote:
PL >> Bundesliga >>>>>>> Spain/Seria A imo.
Seriously, Spain League is a Joke. When was the last time a Team other than Barca/Real won the Championship? Its always Real/Barca and the Rest is 30pts behind. Sooo boring, No competition at all!
Noob troll is noob troll. No one is taking you seriously dude. You bring up points that have been iced in this very thread before feel free to remain an ignorant fanboy but lay off a bit after youve made your point and cant add any useful knowledge to a discussion.
O and the last time a German team not called Bayern won the CL was probably when you probably werent even born judging from your posts. Thats way longer than any team winning la liga and not being called Real or Barca. Hell they havent even reached a final for over 10 years now. All Bayern. Your only representative doing anything meaningful to represent your league in Europe has been one team. I wonder why. Care to explain? I could use some amusement.
Also the performance of winners of BL not called BL in Europe is absolutely mediocre. Unless it has been at the cost of their own league position ala Schalke.
To anyone else..
Dont get me wrong Im not hating on the league or anything. I think its pretty good and has a better balance of teams than perhaps England or Spain but there is no objective measure outside of European performance to gauge cross league standards and even then there are intangibles such as play styles and different refereeing criteria that affect teams and frankly Germany doesnt even garner a level higher than Italy in that respect for me personally. Ofcourse UEFA has its own measures and those are probably accurate so Im in all honesty mistaken.
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On May 06 2012 20:34 Kaesebrot wrote:
PL >> Bundesliga >>>>>>> Spain/Seria A imo.
Seriously, Spain League is a Joke. When was the last time a Team other than Barca/Real won the Championship? Its always Real/Barca and the Rest is 30pts behind. Sooo boring, No competition at all!
Let me educate you.
- Last time some other team other than Manchester/Chelsea won the EPL title was Arsenal in 2003/2004.
- Last time some other team other than Barca/Real won the La Liga title was Valencia in 2003/2004.
- 4 teams have managed to win EPL in the last 20 years. Whereas there were 5 different La Liga winners in the last 20 years.
Extra lesson: Last 20 years Manchester United won the league 12 out of 20 seasons. Does that mean that EPL is a 1 team league? No. They're just the best team of EPL in the last 20 years. Just like Barcelona is the best team of La Liga in the last 20 years with Real close behind.
I think the reason that there's so many different winners in Bundesliga it's because there's really only 1 big* team that's really strong in Bayern. The rest are good don't get me wrong but they're so unstable. Let's take for example Wolfsburg: They won the league 3 seasons ago and the next season they barely survied. Which is good what Dortmund is doing these past two seasons, they've build a stable team and are looking set to continue to be stable at least in Bundesliga and with a little more experience in Europe they'll be a great team in Europe as well.
Bundesliga is the most entertaining league in the world. However I would not say that it's better than La Liga. Better than Serie A for sure though.
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Huge day of PL football today with Mancity playing the really on form Newcastle at St James Park then Man Utd playing Swansea later.
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GO NEWCASTLE !!! GO CISSE!!!
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On May 06 2012 20:24 SnowyPsilocybin wrote:
First time cheering for Man city this season, as an Arsenal fan, after Arsenal fucked up and might get champions league next season
Feels so dirty lol But we need them to win so badly :/
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Big day in the EPL today come on you Tottenham! Now that Arsenal fucked up against Norwich even if Newcastle win we still have a really good chance at top 4 if we just WIN.
EDIT: YES found a stream for Tottenham vs Villa.
EDIT 2: And the quality is unwatchable shit 
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This Toon City game is absolutely gripping, looking forward to the second half.
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Yeeees, Villa takes the lead against Spurs!
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City takes the lead against Newcastle. Beautiful strike from Touré!
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My word Toure rising up to the occasion. Just passed that one into the goal from more than 20 absolutely brilliant composure. Massive I feel so good for him and Silva. Learn the trade in Spain and conquer England ? :p :p ..
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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2-0 City. Touré is having a great game, scores again.
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Man City all but got the title now. 2-0
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And it's a penalty at Villa Park for Spurs! Down to 10 men but this could be so crucial D:
EDIT: And it's in!
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On May 06 2012 23:22 The KY wrote:
And it's a penalty at Villa Park for Spurs! Down to 10 men but this could be so crucial D:
EDIT: And it's in!
Yes!! Still really tough with 10 men though. >_<
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EPT
