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Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
September 17 2011 05:00 GMT
#1281
Oh it's still Friday...
indigoawareness
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovakia273 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 05:19:10
September 17 2011 05:16 GMT
#1282


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qa4 or 0-0 seem like the next move. Need to think....
To sleep, perchance to dream.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
September 17 2011 06:34 GMT
#1283
Reposting.

On September 14 2011 12:29 jdseemoreglass wrote:
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My analysis:
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9. O-O is certainly a solid move. The question here is, do we have better? I think we might....


9. Bxc6 bxc6 10. Qa4. I didn't see this move in my last analysis, but it looks strong. Here we are forking the c6 pawn, and the bishop at b4. Let's look at black's options...

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10. ...Rb8 defending the bishop. (10. ... a5 would lose the rook or the d-pawn after Qxc6+.) Here, we have the option of taking a free pawn. 11. Qxc6+. Black can't interpose the bishop, because he would then lose his d-pawn. So 11. ... Qd7 12. Qxd7 Bxd7 13. a3, and we are safely up a pawn with queens off the board.

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-OR-

10. ... Bxd2. Here we retake with the knight in order to attack the black knight on e4. Black shouldn't allow us to capture his knight next move, and he doesn't have a good escape square. 11. Nxd2 Nxd2 12. Bxd2, and here, there isn't much black can do to prevent us from dominating the dark squares, and making his doubled c-pawns a liability. For example, placing the queen on c2 or the bishop of the a3-f8 diagonal, and his doubled pawns will be stuck in place, and his a-pawn is weak and isolated.

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I'm casting my vote for 9. Bxc6+.


I vote 10. Qa4
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 17 2011 07:16 GMT
#1284
yeah i ran these lines already
definitely QA4
10. Qa4
we will end up winning a pawn or position with this
it directly threatens his bishop safely
he will retreat it as opposed to taking our knight, but we will win on his doubled pawns with this
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 08:12:40
September 17 2011 07:21 GMT
#1285
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I vote Qa4. + Show Spoiler +
This takes advantage of our last move and still allows us to castle O-O on the next move if there isn't anything better to do. It is great to move the queen here because it puts pressure on c6 and b4, and if 10. Qa4 Nxf2 11. Qxc6+, then black's queen is in a bad spot and we also win the rook.

10. Qa4
[...O-O 11. Qxb4]

[...Ba5 11. Qxa5]
[...Be7 11. good for white]
[...Bxd2 11. Bxd2 Nxd2 12. Nxd2 O-O 13. O-O]

Qa4 is absolutely great because it reinforces d4 and allows us to use our knight on f3 to defend d2 if necessary. Either way, we win a pawn (c6) with Qa4 so it sounds like the best move to me. (If 10. Qa4 Bd7, 11. Qxb4)


Right now we're losing in terms of positioning, but we begin the eventual win with Qa4 on this move.
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shackes
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany148 Posts
September 17 2011 07:55 GMT
#1286
10. Qa4

Pretty straight forward after our last move..
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 08:07:35
September 17 2011 08:04 GMT
#1287
hp.Shell wrote:
[...Be7 11. good for white]


a, Spoilers, please.
b, Nevermind.
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
September 17 2011 08:22 GMT
#1288
10. Qa4
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For this move, I agree with jdseemoreglass analysis that white has a good advantage. The alternative 10. O-O also looks good but Qa4 is more forcing and gives Ng5 less chance to wiggle.

jdseemoreglass lines:
10. ...Rb8 11. Qxc6+ Qd7 12. Qxd7 Bxd7 13. a3 This is probably blacks best try. He gives up a pawn but have the 2 bishops with some drawing chances. White is still a lot better (i think)
10. ... Bxd2 11. Nxd2 Nxd2 12. Bxd2 Although black can keep the pawn here for a while and it looks like there is opposite colour bishops of the board, this is very good for white since opposite colour bishop favour the attacker. White plans of Bb4 and Rc1 looks really good.

some other tactical lines:
10. ... Bxd2 11. Nxd2 if black just go Bd7 12. Nxe4 dxe4 13. Qc2! wins the pawn
10.... Be7 retreating the bishop, white has the shot 11. Nxe4 dxe4 12. Qxc6+ then Qxe4


:)
LaXerCannon
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada558 Posts
September 17 2011 08:52 GMT
#1289
Qa4
Just keep swimming
aphorism
Profile Joined February 2011
United States226 Posts
September 17 2011 09:03 GMT
#1290
Qa4, continuing with the line as usual...
Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
September 17 2011 09:48 GMT
#1291
10. Qa4
gg no re
Chezus
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands427 Posts
September 17 2011 10:39 GMT
#1292
10. Qa4
Mabilis
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States162 Posts
September 17 2011 11:29 GMT
#1293
Yeah, definitely 10. Qa4
"Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in." -- Evan Davis
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4730 Posts
September 17 2011 11:49 GMT
#1294
10. Qa4
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
September 17 2011 12:00 GMT
#1295
Guys. Things will get dicey soon. Just saying.
TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
September 17 2011 12:55 GMT
#1296
im back and i vote Qa4
NesTea <3
Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
September 17 2011 13:03 GMT
#1297
10.Qa4
God Mode: Alt+F4
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
September 17 2011 13:52 GMT
#1298
Qa4
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
Mash2
Profile Joined February 2011
United States132 Posts
September 17 2011 14:21 GMT
#1299
Qa4
"Quite often the flood of history is undammed or diverted by the character and actions of one man." - Pat Frank, "Alas, Babylon"
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
September 17 2011 16:35 GMT
#1300
indigoawareness was just temp banned for 1 week by Nyovne.


Damn, we lost another one to Charliethe mods.
On September 17 2011 21:00 Ng5 wrote:
Guys. Things will get dicey soon. Just saying.


What do you mean by that?
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
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