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Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
September 18 2011 09:32 GMT
#1321
For those who are interested, Sidler and Grischuk are playing the exact same variation as we have in the final of the world chess cup in Khanty-Mansiysk

There is a live video with commentary athttp://chess.ugrasport.com/ http://chess.ugrasport.com/
:)
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 09:53:17
September 18 2011 09:48 GMT
#1322
This happens to me a lot when I lay my eyes on an opening in the past years. I work it out, two weeks, a month, half a year later I see it in top tournament play. I'm waiting for my crazier 1. d4 lines to happen sometimes.

It's 7. O-O for white, so not that similar anymore. The tactics are different in that line.
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
September 18 2011 10:04 GMT
#1323
Ng5 the trendsetter? :p
:)
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
September 18 2011 10:41 GMT
#1324
They almost never play the crazier stuff.

It would take both of them to have a prep in the line and both of them think they have something to fight for there. Real top level chess goes by different edges.

I love Svidler, but this probably wasn't his zomgtrashingtactical opening. And 8... O-O was the book move there. I think I looked at that variation down the line. At least I checked a lot of lines with exd6, dxc7.

I'm not sure that game will go too well for black. Of course he is an hour up. Still...
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 10:50:59
September 18 2011 10:48 GMT
#1325
Thing is - there white is fine even with unusual moves, that's just what I heard in my ears too on ICC.

All white has to do is to set the pawns correctly.

Even a pawnchain like a2-b3-c3 and f3-g2-h2 is good if you get to play Qc2, Nd2, Bf2.

Now what does black do. If exchange white has a better position, but all of a sudden the only piece he can better is his queen, and frankly there's no good square for the lady right now... What, Qb7/Qa6 to connect the rooks? White is just better and should the time control come it could be a long skinning game.

That's after:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. d4 exd4 6. e5 Ne4 7. O-O d5 8. exd6 Nxd6 9. Re1+ Be6 10. Bg5 Qc8 11. Bxc6+ bxc6 12. Nxd4 Bxd4 13. Qxd4 O-O 14. Nd2
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
September 18 2011 10:55 GMT
#1326
lol... Qa6

There's an awesome trap with 14... Qa6 15. Ne4 Qb6 16. Qd2 Nc4 to grab the pawn and then... 17. Qf4 black can pretty much resign due to the Nf6 mating threat.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
September 18 2011 11:01 GMT
#1327
Haha... b3 happened, too. If he plays f3 somewhere along the line too I'll laugh.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
September 18 2011 11:09 GMT
#1328
:/

14... Qa6 15. b3 Qb6 16. Be3

A drawready black's wet dream... If you add 16... Qxd4 it's like omgwtfbbq.

Ok over.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
September 18 2011 11:11 GMT
#1329
Draw, either reach of time control with equal material and black holds because of opposite coloured bishops and 16... a5 or white can make a small mistake, losing one pawn and holding on during a very long skinning game.

Enough for today. Off with me now.
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
September 18 2011 11:14 GMT
#1330
i dunno, white is still better i think. Black hasnt solve all his problem yet
:)
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 18 2011 12:10 GMT
#1331
I don't really see a way for white to pressure without the risk of black just trading off for a draw
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 16:52:10
September 18 2011 16:51 GMT
#1332
0-0
im deaf
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
September 18 2011 17:43 GMT
#1333
10. Qa4
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
Sisyphus
Profile Joined September 2011
3 Posts
September 18 2011 20:37 GMT
#1334
On September 18 2011 21:10 Bill Murray wrote:
I don't really see a way for white to pressure without the risk of black just trading off for a draw


looks like opposite colored bishops coming soon to a board near you to me
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
September 18 2011 20:53 GMT
#1335
We've got 2 queens, 4 rooks, minor pieces, and all but two of the pawns left on the board, and people are really scared of a drawn endgame lol...

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. If we think it's impossible to win a pawn or superior position from Ng5, what's the point of playing the game?

By the way, great name Sisyphus, and welcome to TL
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
September 18 2011 21:23 GMT
#1336
On September 19 2011 05:53 jdseemoreglass wrote:
We've got 2 queens, 4 rooks, minor pieces, and all but two of the pawns left on the board, and people are really scared of a drawn endgame lol...
I think some of them may have been talking about the other game Raysalis linked to.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 22:28:52
September 18 2011 22:27 GMT
#1337
On September 19 2011 06:23 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 05:53 jdseemoreglass wrote:
We've got 2 queens, 4 rooks, minor pieces, and all but two of the pawns left on the board, and people are really scared of a drawn endgame lol...
I think some of them may have been talking about the other game Raysalis linked to.

Right some posts are about the game from yesterday, and some are about how we are going to end up drawn because of bishops...
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
September 18 2011 22:57 GMT
#1338
10. Qa4
Whaaaa?
RAGEMOAR The Pope
Profile Joined February 2011
United States216 Posts
September 18 2011 22:57 GMT
#1339
Q C2
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
September 18 2011 23:26 GMT
#1340
On September 19 2011 07:27 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 06:23 qrs wrote:
On September 19 2011 05:53 jdseemoreglass wrote:
We've got 2 queens, 4 rooks, minor pieces, and all but two of the pawns left on the board, and people are really scared of a drawn endgame lol...
I think some of them may have been talking about the other game Raysalis linked to.

Right some posts are about the game from yesterday, and some are about how we are going to end up drawn because of bishops...
Well, as far as our game is concerned. I've said in a few posts that if it comes to that, I think + Show Spoiler +
we should play 11. Bxd2, rather than 11. Nxd2, so as not to reduce the minor pieces on the board to a pair of opposite-colored Bishops.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
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