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Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 08:31:56
November 05 2011 08:17 GMT
#2201
Updated, moved, sending reminders now. Done.

You are 4 hours short of three days. PM or write here if you mind it and you'd like the extra days. I might still give it later to my own will if I see fit.

Cheers and have a great weekend, peeps.

-me

Next round of voting is on the fly.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 05 2011 08:50 GMT
#2202
I smell a mating attack...

Its 3:49 here, so I'll attempt a more in-depth analysis tomorrow.
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 05 2011 09:00 GMT
#2203
Yeah it's 2AM here, why am I still awake? Bah civilization...

At first glance I'm liking Nf1, so that will be my tentative move until we do some analysis tomorrow, er, today... :/

Reason: Releases our bishop and prepares the knight to move to a more useful square, and stuff.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
November 05 2011 09:56 GMT
#2204
Nf3 or Nf1, its 5 AM here :\ dont know which yet but definitely a knight move.
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 13:04:02
November 05 2011 13:02 GMT
#2205
20. Rb1+ Show Spoiler +
Black has allowed us to go two pawns up. It is very advantageous for us to trade material. Though Rb1 doesn't force a Rook trade, it does force an awkward move by black.

20. Rb1 Bb5 21. Nf3 and we have essentially obtained a free move (Rb1).
20. Rb1 Bb4 21. a3xb4
20. Rb1 Rxb1 21. Nxb1 opens the bishop and allows us to attack d5 on the next move with 22. Nc3.
(example continuation: 20. Rb1 Rxb1 21. Nxb1 Rb8 22. Nc3 Kd6 23. Bf4+)

20. Rb1 Rc8 21. Nf3 c5 22. Be3
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LaXerCannon
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada558 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 13:55:24
November 05 2011 13:52 GMT
#2206
On November 05 2011 22:02 hp.Shell wrote:
20. Rb1+ Show Spoiler +
Black has allowed us to go two pawns up. It is very advantageous for us to trade material. Though Rb1 doesn't force a Rook trade, it does force an awkward move by black.

20. Rb1 Bb5 21. Nf3 and we have essentially obtained a free move (Rb1).
20. Rb1 Bb4 21. a3xb4
20. Rb1 Rxb1 21. Nxb1 opens the bishop and allows us to attack d5 on the next move with 22. Nc3.
(example continuation: 20. Rb1 Rxb1 21. Nxb1 Rb8 22. Nc3 Kd6 23. Bf4+)

20. Rb1 Rc8 21. Nf3 c5 22. Be3


+ Show Spoiler +

second line 20.Rb1 Bb4 21. a3xb4 is checkmate with 21... Rxe1 22. Nf1 Rxf1#
third line

I propose Nf1 in preparation for Ne3, which is a far more active square
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
November 05 2011 14:18 GMT
#2207
On November 05 2011 22:52 LaXerCannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:02 hp.Shell wrote:
20. Rb1+ Show Spoiler +
Black has allowed us to go two pawns up. It is very advantageous for us to trade material. Though Rb1 doesn't force a Rook trade, it does force an awkward move by black.

20. Rb1 Bb5 21. Nf3 and we have essentially obtained a free move (Rb1).
20. Rb1 Bb4 21. a3xb4
20. Rb1 Rxb1 21. Nxb1 opens the bishop and allows us to attack d5 on the next move with 22. Nc3.
(example continuation: 20. Rb1 Rxb1 21. Nxb1 Rb8 22. Nc3 Kd6 23. Bf4+)

20. Rb1 Rc8 21. Nf3 c5 22. Be3


+ Show Spoiler +

second line 20.Rb1 Bb4 21. a3xb4 is checkmate with 21... Rxe1 22. Nf1 Rxf1#
third line

I propose Nf1 in preparation for Ne3, which is a far more active square

+ Show Spoiler +
Fine. Anything against this line? 20. Rb1 Bb4 21. Rxe8 Rxe8 22. g3
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keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
November 05 2011 14:58 GMT
#2208
20. Nf1
wizard944
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 15:56:39
November 05 2011 15:55 GMT
#2209
Edit: nevermind. 20. Nf1 is a better choice
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EnderSword
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada669 Posts
November 05 2011 17:27 GMT
#2210
Nf1
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chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
November 05 2011 17:41 GMT
#2211
It was originally decided Nf1 is a good follow up after b4, I am still doing some calculation on the side. But I think Nf1 is better than Rb1 for now. I will vote soonish.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
November 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#2212
20. Nf1
gg no re
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
November 05 2011 18:58 GMT
#2213
20. Nf3
:)
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
November 05 2011 18:58 GMT
#2214
Nf3 or Nf1... I'd say Nf1
Jaedong.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
November 05 2011 19:30 GMT
#2215
looks like my vote won't matter
nf1 does feel safe vs a checkmate attempt though
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 00:37:17
November 06 2011 00:35 GMT
#2216
20. g3
+ Show Spoiler [rationale] +
Eliminates the threat of a back-rank mate, begins play on the Kingside, doesn't commit the Knight early. Nf1 is slow: in various lines that we've looked at, it never ends up getting to e3 because of Black's counterplay.
Prior analysis on the current position can be found here.
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 06 2011 00:41 GMT
#2217
On November 05 2011 23:18 hp.Shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:52 LaXerCannon wrote:
On November 05 2011 22:02 hp.Shell wrote:
20. Rb1+ Show Spoiler +
Black has allowed us to go two pawns up. It is very advantageous for us to trade material. Though Rb1 doesn't force a Rook trade, it does force an awkward move by black.

20. Rb1 Bb5 21. Nf3 and we have essentially obtained a free move (Rb1).
20. Rb1 Bb4 21. a3xb4
20. Rb1 Rxb1 21. Nxb1 opens the bishop and allows us to attack d5 on the next move with 22. Nc3.
(example continuation: 20. Rb1 Rxb1 21. Nxb1 Rb8 22. Nc3 Kd6 23. Bf4+)

20. Rb1 Rc8 21. Nf3 c5 22. Be3


+ Show Spoiler +

second line 20.Rb1 Bb4 21. a3xb4 is checkmate with 21... Rxe1 22. Nf1 Rxf1#
third line

I propose Nf1 in preparation for Ne3, which is a far more active square
Fine. Anything against this line? + Show Spoiler +
20. Rb1 Bb4 21. Rxe8 Rxe8 22. g3
Yes. + Show Spoiler +
22...Re1+ 23. Kg2 Bxd2.

In this line, 22. Nf3 is pretty well forced, I believe.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
November 06 2011 00:45 GMT
#2218
On November 06 2011 02:41 chesshaha wrote:
It was originally decided Nf1 is a good follow up after b4, I am still doing some calculation on the side. But I think Nf1 is better than Rb1 for now. I will vote soonish.
Decided by whom? I've been following all the analysis posted here, and I'm far from convinced it's our best move. Click on my link two posts up if you want to see the details.

PS: @Ng5, could we have our full three days, please? I have a feeling that we could use them on this move.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
November 06 2011 01:01 GMT
#2219
20.Nf1
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mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
November 06 2011 01:10 GMT
#2220
Nf3 based on prior analysis.
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