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For those that following CS scene, this few days Fnatic's Marcus 'delpan' Larsson is reported to be a possible signing by SK Gaming after they remove long time member, Jimmy 'allen' Allen.
http://www.hltv.org/news/6879-sk-interested-in-delpan-report
Just few hours ago, Theslash (SK managing director) announced that they have signed Delpan from Fnatic.
Neither SK nor fnatic have commented on the matter, and the only indication of the move so far has been made by Müller on his Twitter, saying: "Delpan has signed!  ".
http://www.hltv.org/news/6896-delpan-signs-for-sk
However, Fnatic making statement that Delpan is still contracted to the team. Furthermore, it's revealed that SK have been trying to pouch Fnatic's Quake Live players, Strenx, without contacting Fnatic during CeBIT.
Fnatic give the following statement:
"The actions of SK Gaming Managing Director, Alex Mueller, and his recent comments on Twitter are deeply disappointing and unprofessional. The G7 was formed on the basis to promote the cooperation and unity between professional organizations. At no stage has SK Gaming attempted to contact any member of the FnaticMSI management to discuss the transfer and release of Marcus 'delpan' Larsson. It is clear that Marcus has a desire and intention to leave FnaticMSI and we acknowledge this, however this does not give either the player or competitor the right just to ignore a valid contract. This shows the true colours of SK Gaming. We still strive and seek a mutually agreeable and professional outcome, something that at this stage is proving difficult. Regardless of past history I would urge SK Gaming to resolve this matter amicably."
http://www.fnatic.com/news/8831/delpan-not-released-from-fnaticmsi.html
It should be noted that in the past, Gux got caught in similar situation where he move back from SK to Fnatic not long after joining SK. However, back then Gux is not contracted by SK, which is clearly different from delpan's situation.
Man, this is way over the line if delpan is indeed contracted to Fnatic. Even more, SK openly claims that "the days when Fnatic and SK can come to an agreement in a civilized manner are over."
Not what I expected from a multi-gaming teams like SK :/
EDIT:
Official: SK signs delpan.
SK Gaming have announced the addition of Marcus "Delpan" Larsson from fnatic.
The Swedish players switches teams just six months after joining fnatic, with whom he would win the IEM5 European Championship in Kiev.
He replaces the inactive Jimmy "allen" Allen, who had a quick comeback at the WCG qualifier this weekend, filling in for Dennis "dennis" Edman, the team's stand-in in recent months.
This is not the first time that Larsson will wear SK's shirt, having represented the team on a one-event basis at the World Esports Masters, helping the team finish in second place, behind WeMade FOX.
Meanwhile, team coach Anton "budak" Budak stressed that SK did everything right to get Larsson, saying: "With this move we aren't stealing a player from another organisation. If a player wishes to become a part of SK, or vice-versa, we will try everything to make this possible."
http://www.hltv.org/news/6898-official-sk-sign-delpan
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TheSlash: "Willing to buy Delpan"
fnatic released last night a statement saying that Delpan had not yet been released. What is the current situation of the player? Is he still tied to fnatic with a contract?
First and foremost, this is a question only Marcus and fnatic can answer. From our point of view, we have worked out a deal with Marcus and in order for him to focus on his new team, we want him to have no problems whatsoever. So we told Fnatic that we are interested in looking at a "buy-out" situation. Interesting is though that the situation is similar to what happened less than 12 months ago, only this time it is the other way around. Back then, fnatic refused to accept that Rasmus was in a legally binding contract with SK.
It is good to see fnatic insisting on contracts between organizations and players to be respected again and I can only hope they will argue the same way when they are approaching a player in the future, regardless for which team he is playing. Anyway, the team wanted Delpan, we negotiated, the player wants to make the move and we are willing to buy him out of a contract between Fnatic and Marcus, it is that simple.
But fnatic said Gux was not contracted to SK...
We did release the photo of the signed contract. How can you say he was not signed?
There's more in the interview, you can read the rest on HLTV.org
http://www.hltv.org/news/6900-theslash-willing-to-buy-delpan
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In all fairness; SK hasn't played fair since forever, not even with their own players. They still technically owe HeatoN and Potti a lot of money, so that kind of is a benchmark for how serious they are when you actually get down things.
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rofl sk thinks they can just go behind the back of a team and sign a player thats already contracted? obviously delpan is going to leave because he doesnt want to apart of the team anymore but thats not how ur supposed to go about it, have some class
edit: fnatic's statement regarding the situation
http://www.fnatic.com/news/8831/Delpan-not-released-from-FnaticMSI.html
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On May 30 2011 09:08 TT1 wrote:rofl sk thinks they can just go behind the back of a team and sign a player thats already contracted? obviously delpan is going to leave because he doesnt want to apart of the team anymore but thats not how ur supposed to go about it, have some class edit: fnatic's statement regarding the situation http://www.fnatic.com/news/8831/Delpan-not-released-from-FnaticMSI.html
I already put that on the OP
Did you really read my post 
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thats pretty rude of sk ;O
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On May 30 2011 09:12 Shana wrote:I already put that on the OP Did you really read my post
just browsed through it : D
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You guys are reading this from fnatic's point of view though. You have to remember that 6 months ago Gux was on SK's team and Fnatic signed Gux behind SK's back because Gux was dodging the official signing of his contract with them.
Both the organizations are showing very little class through this series...again. Fnatic could have easily taken the higher road with their statement but they litter it with phrases calling SK Unprofessional and unwilling to do things properly.
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Should we also mention Delpan and Gux's team histories the past <12months?
Delpan: Lions SK Fnatic SK
Gux: SK Fnatic SK Fnatic Lions Fnatic.
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illsick
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I'm a big cArn fan
hope SK fails and gl to fnatic
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On May 30 2011 09:25 Zlasher wrote:
You guys are reading this from fnatic's point of view though. You have to remember that 6 months ago Gux was on SK's team and Fnatic signed Gux behind SK's back because Gux was dodging the official signing of his contract with them.
Both the organizations are showing very little class through this series...again. Fnatic could have easily taken the higher road with their statement but they litter it with phrases calling SK Unprofessional and unwilling to do things properly.
"When FnaticMSI took on Gux, he was not under a contract with SK Gaming.
As it stands, Delpan is still 100% under contract with FnaticMSI."
this is wat someone from the fnatic staff had to say about that situation
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I feel nothing but disgust for SK. And no, this is not the only reason why. I remember back in Heaton-days when SK still made some questionable moves. Also, they switch players after pretty much every tournament and has not been able to hold a steady line up since 2003. Should learn from Fnatic.
Moreover, the Madfrog affair seems a little fishy to me.
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On May 30 2011 09:44 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 09:25 Zlasher wrote:
You guys are reading this from fnatic's point of view though. You have to remember that 6 months ago Gux was on SK's team and Fnatic signed Gux behind SK's back because Gux was dodging the official signing of his contract with them.
Both the organizations are showing very little class through this series...again. Fnatic could have easily taken the higher road with their statement but they litter it with phrases calling SK Unprofessional and unwilling to do things properly. "When FnaticMSI took on Gux, he was not under a contract with SK Gaming. As it stands, Delpan is still 100% under contract with FnaticMSI." this is wat someone from the fnatic staff had to say about that situation
Yes, Gux was not under contract but that is not something Fnatic would have known if organizations weren't so shady about it sometimes. Gux was avoiding signing his contract but still expected to get paid the salary and prize money on the contract even though he didn't sign it, then fnatic took a key component of the team just prior to IEM.
Nobody is a saint here, especially not SK or Fnatic's PR guys or head editors, to allow such ridiculous phrases being littered across their official statements and press releases.
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On May 30 2011 10:06 Zlasher wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 09:44 TT1 wrote:On May 30 2011 09:25 Zlasher wrote:
You guys are reading this from fnatic's point of view though. You have to remember that 6 months ago Gux was on SK's team and Fnatic signed Gux behind SK's back because Gux was dodging the official signing of his contract with them.
Both the organizations are showing very little class through this series...again. Fnatic could have easily taken the higher road with their statement but they litter it with phrases calling SK Unprofessional and unwilling to do things properly. "When FnaticMSI took on Gux, he was not under a contract with SK Gaming. As it stands, Delpan is still 100% under contract with FnaticMSI." this is wat someone from the fnatic staff had to say about that situation Yes, Gux was not under contract but that is not something Fnatic would have known if organizations weren't so shady about it sometimes. Gux was avoiding signing his contract but still expected to get paid the salary and prize money on the contract even though he didn't sign it, then fnatic took a key component of the team just prior to IEM. Nobody is a saint here, especially not SK or Fnatic's PR guys or head editors, to allow such ridiculous phrases being littered across their official statements and press releases.
Sort of speaks to how fragile the gaming industry still seems to be, even an supposedly somewhat well established one where organizations like SK can let a player continue to play for the team and dodge contract signings (which I don't understand how it's possible since you grab him at an event and if he doesn't sign then he's out). The only reason they still let him play for the team that I can see is that they need players who work well with the team more than they need all the official paperwork in order so that sponsors still pay them money.
Amirite?
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E-Sport contracts have no weight, they are useless to sign and useless to follow.
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On May 30 2011 09:26 Zlasher wrote:
Should we also mention Delpan and Gux's team histories the past <12months?
Delpan: Lions SK Fnatic SK
Gux: SK Fnatic SK Fnatic Lions Fnatic.
Holy.... I don't follow CS but that's ridiculous.
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To bad that f0rest is with SK ;< amazing player
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Good ' ol 1.6 drama. SK has always been shady, every1 knows that. Why else would Heaton, potti, spawn, ahl, fisker leave to form NiP  . I miss the fnatic w/ f0rest on it though...good times.
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On May 30 2011 10:31 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 10:06 Zlasher wrote:On May 30 2011 09:44 TT1 wrote:On May 30 2011 09:25 Zlasher wrote:
You guys are reading this from fnatic's point of view though. You have to remember that 6 months ago Gux was on SK's team and Fnatic signed Gux behind SK's back because Gux was dodging the official signing of his contract with them.
Both the organizations are showing very little class through this series...again. Fnatic could have easily taken the higher road with their statement but they litter it with phrases calling SK Unprofessional and unwilling to do things properly. "When FnaticMSI took on Gux, he was not under a contract with SK Gaming. As it stands, Delpan is still 100% under contract with FnaticMSI." this is wat someone from the fnatic staff had to say about that situation Yes, Gux was not under contract but that is not something Fnatic would have known if organizations weren't so shady about it sometimes. Gux was avoiding signing his contract but still expected to get paid the salary and prize money on the contract even though he didn't sign it, then fnatic took a key component of the team just prior to IEM. Nobody is a saint here, especially not SK or Fnatic's PR guys or head editors, to allow such ridiculous phrases being littered across their official statements and press releases. Sort of speaks to how fragile the gaming industry still seems to be, even an supposedly somewhat well established one where organizations like SK can let a player continue to play for the team and dodge contract signings (which I don't understand how it's possible since you grab him at an event and if he doesn't sign then he's out). The only reason they still let him play for the team that I can see is that they need players who work well with the team more than they need all the official paperwork in order so that sponsors still pay them money. Amirite?
Because in a game where you add players based on synergy and with only so many big events a year that you have to make it to, you add a player with the expectation that a guy who used to be on your team and has had good relations would have just signed the contract. When a team is as high profile as SK or Fnatic they have to go get their player and hope the team works well, you can't just switch players in and out, like fnatic and sk have tried to do in the past 12 months.
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On May 30 2011 11:01 PrimeTimey wrote:
E-Sport contracts have no weight, they are useless to sign and useless to follow.
Naniwa's has a clause that Dignitas can kick him if he BMs too much and so far he's following it and has helped both him, his public recognition and Dignitases.
Everybody wins!
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TT1 there no rules on signing players lol, i know ur upset cause ur fnatic, but if u cared so much to keep your players you would do what u can, SK probably offered him something better, why wouldnt he take it.
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EPT
