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Heya guys...
So, some guys from work and I get together every Friday night to watch movies (lately it's been Spartacus), and after we play video games. They've tried SC2, and they quite enjoy it, but they criticize because they are avid EE players. This Friday, they've challenged me, the SC2 player, to learn EE and be able to play with them, 4v4 against the computer (because, apparently, that's "what you do" in EE).
I installed it and played a 1v1 against the computer, and I have the basics down, I've been through the first 4 or 5 ages, but I really want to play well on Friday. Are there build orders/civilization set-ups that are the most optimal, that I could use to make sure I don't embarrass myself?
Thanks for any/all help!
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Wrong section, should be under Sports & Games... Never actually played that game so I can't help 
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Zurich15325 Posts
EE can be insane fun. Playing against the AI should be pretty boring though. Just set up defenses and tech and let the AI run units into defenses.
Other than that, from what I recall (more applicable to 1v1/FFA):
- Templar are ridiculously powerful. You can build them at all tech ages and they are equally powerful on all ages. They can cast plague (works pretty much like in BW if I remember correctly), earthquake (stupid) and volcano. 1 or 2 volcanos can obliterate an entire base regardless off what age you are in. So, 2 or 3 stone age templar can take out an entire modern age air fleet with well placed volcanoes next to the air fields (yes, I had that happen and yes, I was the templar terrorist). One guy going templar forces everyone to build defensive temples basically.
- Playing beyond WW1 is stupid in 1v1/FFA because of how powerful nukes are. Might be fun against the AI though I guess.
- Best tech / upgrade choice are the riflemen in mid ages / renaissance. Don't remember the exact name, but they are an all purpose unit that is upgradable through all ages up to future tech.
- Best civ I don't remember exactly either but there was one that has better workers, which of course is imba, and one that can upgrade units cheaply.
- You should try air units against the AI first before playing on Friday as they are a bit obnoxious to control.
Other than that I think it's just basic RTS. Expand and macro well.
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They are playing 4v4 against computer AI, chances are they are your typical horrible RTS players. Being a starcraft player, you should have no problems being the strongest player in the game.
If I remember correctly, in empire earth, towers rocked face, and speedy units like horsemen were by far the most useful units.
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Played it a long time ago ... apart from the usual RTS stuff (rushes/macro), some age updates are completely useless, other pretty important. The way I remember it, the first cannons are completely OP (= epoch VII). Additionally, tanks (epoch X) are pretty strong. Helicopters and flying air/ground units are pretty useless (and air fighters only in the late stages). WW2 bombers (epoch XI) are pretty good vs computers. The nuke bombers (starting with epoch XII) are way OP in mass and can break any stationary ground defense. Cyborgs all alright, but not exactly all that important. As you can tell, I often played in the later stages.
When designing your civilization, start with the resource gathering updates. Food is pretty useless since you can just get more farms. If you're expecting to get to the later epochs (big/island map or so), get at least one of gold and iron since food,stone,and wood don't play any role though. Also, get the worker speed! Also, you should design one or two civilizations before hand so you don't have to rush your strategy on that and can immediately load it once the game starts.
The main building upgrades are also quite strong - you get +15% resource gathering with most. When properly upgraded, stationary defense (towers) are really strong too. I think the most important upgrades are to cannon and laser tower. Also note that a hospital can recharge your units' health for free - practically a shield battery with unlimited energy that can also heal HP.
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Ahhh I used to play this game ages again so this brings back some good RTS memories when I was a kid, but enugh of the sentimental stuff!
First off there are several game types involving the epochs. Some start from the first one, cannot remember what it is called, the seond dark ages and the third modern. It takes forever to tech up and yeah. I love to play from the first epoch and up because it is way more challenging and fun. Does your friend allow wonders? All of the wonders are a great help, like increase pop cap (colu-something) and the temple of zeus which allows your units to regenerate Hp. Dont forget about hero units too! I like strategist better because of their debuffs like warcry. The unit composition is very complex and you have to google them up. Spears swords range etc.
One more thing to add is do not use custom civilizations. Things to not forget is increase resource income and increase popcap, other stuffs like damage can follow.
That is all i remember for now, going to edit if I remember other stuff
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On February 02 2011 01:27 Fen wrote:
They are playing 4v4 against computer AI, chances are they are your typical horrible RTS players. Being a starcraft player, you should have no problems being the strongest player in the game.
If I remember correctly, in empire earth, towers rocked face, and speedy units like horsemen were by far the most useful units.
Yes, they are not good RTS players lol. I even "warned" one of them that he should bring good headphones, cause my mechanical keyboard is pretty noisy, and he asked "why would you need a keyboard? I do everything with my mouse."....yeesh
Yea I'm not too concerned about micro/macro in general, but I just don't have time to go through every unit/upgrade/building to figure out the best stuff. The worst would be losing in the first 2 ages, after touting my RTS skills haha.
Thanks for the help so far, guys! Keep the ideas coming. :-D
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omg i totally even forgot about empire earth... thank you so much for even posting this hahahaha
edit: sorry to not have posted content applicable to the OP... just wanted to throw that int here
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i remember that the leader unit that can heal is pretty strong in the early ages.
when me and my friend were messing around in that game, i rushed him with an early attack and it looked like i was gonna get destroyed, but the leader unit's healing was insanely strong and none of my guys really took any damage.
i just remember that he had a whip and we called him osama bin laden.
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EE is all about hard counters and rock paper scissors, make sure your units are attacking the right things. Apart from that I don't know any competitive EE strategies. I seem to remember towers were really strong though, you could probably rape with an early game tower rush.
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can someone please help me get connected to EE1 with hamachi? me and my friend are connected to one another on hamachi, but we're not sure what to do now. we load up EE and go to multiplayer , host game, but the other person cant see our hosted game :o
any tips please
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The one massive tip I can give you is to put hunting&foraging in your civ unless you start beyond the indy age...and even then. Expansionism is also good but since you start off with 20 civs in SH it may not be needed.
This is such a great classic game. I stopped once SH became prevalent over TL and bombard fests ruined Indy SH.
Oh and you can't A-Move. Now THAT is obnoxious.
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On February 02 2011 01:06 FubsyGamr wrote:
Heya guys...
So, some guys from work and I get together every Friday night to watch movies (lately it's been Spartacus), and after we play video games. They've tried SC2, and they quite enjoy it, but they criticize because they are avid EE players. This Friday, they've challenged me, the SC2 player, to learn EE and be able to play with them, 4v4 against the computer (because, apparently, that's "what you do" in EE).
I installed it and played a 1v1 against the computer, and I have the basics down, I've been through the first 4 or 5 ages, but I really want to play well on Friday. Are there build orders/civilization set-ups that are the most optimal, that I could use to make sure I don't embarrass myself?
Thanks for any/all help!
holy crap this was my favorite game ever.... i had no idea people still played! when the servers went down like 5 years ago... i shed a tear.... do you guys play online or LAN? id love to join ya guys if its online.
when i did epoching games, where its not just staying in one epoch, i found this to work well:
-only food first epoch, use all your stone to tower up your area, near mines and wood n food
-get two silver/gold mines and keep raping food for second epoch
-shift econ towards heavy wood inbetween 2-3, and as soon as you hit 3 pump out 3 or 4 farms
after that you have such a good food base to kick butt.,
i would get add another silver n gold after that n start making barracks n archery ranges to be ready -for 4th epoch, where id start massing swordsmen and archers and catapults if necessary. i basically try to end game there, but if that doesnt work, pull back and keep economizing and try again during middle ages (i think 6th epoch)
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On February 03 2011 11:50 writer22816 wrote:
EE is all about hard counters and rock paper scissors, make sure your units are attacking the right things. Apart from that I don't know any competitive EE strategies. I seem to remember towers were really strong though, you could probably rape with an early game tower rush.
you cant build towers within a good sized radius of their town centers. good idea tho, the towers kicked butt unless you had siege
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On May 04 2011 06:57 Serdiuk wrote:
The one massive tip I can give you is to put hunting&foraging in your civ unless you start beyond the indy age...and even then. Expansionism is also good but since you start off with 20 civs in SH it may not be needed.
This is such a great classic game. I stopped once SH became prevalent over TL and bombard fests ruined Indy SH.
Oh and you can't A-Move. Now THAT is obnoxious.
mid SH was amazing though! and you could A-move, it was CTRL+right click
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On May 04 2011 06:38 FFGenerations wrote:
can someone please help me get connected to EE1 with hamachi
check the ip your hamchi uses (should be at the top of the hamchi window iirc and use join by ip ingame.
Man i remember spending hours and hours trying to beat normal AIs with a friend :')
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China10252 Posts
Creating an epic air fleet in the German campaign was awesome. Bombing raids and strafing runs!
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On May 04 2011 07:19 Mrs.Jenkins wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 06:57 Serdiuk wrote:
The one massive tip I can give you is to put hunting&foraging in your civ unless you start beyond the indy age...and even then. Expansionism is also good but since you start off with 20 civs in SH it may not be needed.
This is such a great classic game. I stopped once SH became prevalent over TL and bombard fests ruined Indy SH.
Oh and you can't A-Move. Now THAT is obnoxious. mid SH was amazing though! and you could A-move, it was CTRL+right click
You're probably right on that account, I haven't played in ages. Mid SH tended to become mass swordsman matches.
The game actually has a community for it on http://www.save-ee.com/ . You can even dl the game there for free.
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i got it working following some youtube instructions, where u put hamachi as the Topmost of your iternet adapters and change an advanced setting in adapters to "10" ....
i went 2 rax lumberjack rush vs my friends 50 miners but she disconned when i attacked , the cheek
*by rush i mean it took like 30 minutes and i thought i was at end-game
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Oh, the memories. So much fun when i was a child.
I remember that the AI cheated, though. So you probably should not attack them unless you kill them, from what i remember the AI one attacked usually got stronger then the other AIs.
I played that game with a friend and our tactic always was to wall of half the map with an insanely large wall, defend that wall, and then kill them in modern ages with insane amounts of nuke bombers. Was a lot of fun, and usually took the whole night^^.
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