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Expurgate
Profile Joined January 2011
United States208 Posts
October 03 2011 20:05 GMT
#3501
Anyone on US who'd like to play with a decent squad should PM me, I have 3 friends who play regularly and I'd like to imagine we're at least alright. We call incomings, coordinate fire lanes, lay down suppressive fire, etc.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
October 03 2011 20:09 GMT
#3502
21-4 first try with the UMP. SO OP.
FagelBagel
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 20:17:01
October 03 2011 20:16 GMT
#3503
Playing tactically (on a realistic level at least) doesn't really work when playing rush. I hate it when I am on the attacking team and people take it nice and slow, all methodical and planned out. You can't win when half the team is crawling through bushes. I can see it working in conquest but in rush you have to keep advancing or you end up getting bogged down and lose all your tickets.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 03 2011 20:22 GMT
#3504
Playing methodical does not mean being stealth or hiding in the bushes.

You guys have huge misconceptions on what methodical is.
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RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
October 03 2011 20:37 GMT
#3505
If there all doing that belly crawl shit just switch to support and stay behind the rocks at B, you can cover A and B while doing that, its what I do when the attackers decide to be douche bags. I'm really getting tired of this origin then battle log then sonar then bf3 client junk. I hope that they decide on adding it all into a client like what the console guys get. It just got old after a while, I'm now sadly on the fence about buying the game, and I really really like the game play just the way they made everything so difficult and not user friendly is lame. Oh and also you won't even be able to play the campaign without logging online into battle log....
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
October 03 2011 20:38 GMT
#3506
The best strat is everyone going in at once, but 'methodically'. Everyone stays behind as much cover as possible, lays down suppresive fire on any enemies they see, and throw support packs and revive as many people as you can. All at a very fast pace and you can arm both bombs in the first minute.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
FagelBagel
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 20:46:21
October 03 2011 20:38 GMT
#3507
True, but crawling through a bush and not planting the objectives while on attackers WILL lose you the game. It is called rush for a reason, if you are not constantly pushing forward and attempting to plant its game over. Sure, pie the corner and use good communication, but you also need to be actively pushing for the objectives.

EDIT: Yes, be quick but don't be stupid. I keep running into people who expected BF3 to be this realistic shooter and are playing it accordingly. It is getting very frustrating when people play this game like ARMA 2
Bartuc
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
October 03 2011 20:54 GMT
#3508
Got the last upgrade for M249 (PSO-1 scope) this evening, still enjoying the gun a lot. For any of the guys here further down the support line, how are the M240B and M60E4? I tried out the PKP but did not enjoy it too much (M249 seemed a lot more accurate long range with burst fire), are those two better?

Also, it's a shame you can't stick c4 on yourself ^^
It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb.
Onioncookie
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany624 Posts
October 03 2011 21:00 GMT
#3509
On October 04 2011 05:09 Karliath wrote:
21-4 first try with the UMP. SO OP.


Wait till you get the F2000 ... more accurate more range , more dmg
FagelBagel
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
October 03 2011 21:01 GMT
#3510
You can however strap C4 to the MAV and EOD bot. A buddy and I have successfully planted at the stations in the park by arming with the EOD bot, blowing C4 when the first defenders come to disarm and then we knock them off the defuse with the MAV. Hilarity ensues.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 21:07:41
October 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#3511

EDIT: Yes, be quick but don't be stupid. I keep running into people who expected BF3 to be this realistic shooter and are playing it accordingly. It is getting very frustrating when people play this game like ARMA 2


they dont play this game like ARMA2 they play it like they have spetsnaz training

Also if this game was ARMA2 in some respects that wouldn't be that bad since snipers would actually take effort instead of 2 shots from that m16 sniper rifle thats unlocked automatically

edit-

Also I think a lot of people calling it realistic tactical shooter are just calling it that to indirectly hate on call of duty because all that game is is commando prO
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Miss_Cleo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States406 Posts
October 03 2011 21:06 GMT
#3512
On October 04 2011 05:54 Bartuc wrote:
Got the last upgrade for M249 (PSO-1 scope) this evening, still enjoying the gun a lot. For any of the guys here further down the support line, how are the M240B and M60E4? I tried out the PKP but did not enjoy it too much (M249 seemed a lot more accurate long range with burst fire), are those two better?

Also, it's a shame you can't stick c4 on yourself ^^



the pkp is the best HMG in game IMO
m240b has a slower rof than the m249 but i feel it does more damage
Bartuc
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
October 03 2011 21:31 GMT
#3513
On October 04 2011 06:06 Miss_Cleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 05:54 Bartuc wrote:
Got the last upgrade for M249 (PSO-1 scope) this evening, still enjoying the gun a lot. For any of the guys here further down the support line, how are the M240B and M60E4? I tried out the PKP but did not enjoy it too much (M249 seemed a lot more accurate long range with burst fire), are those two better?

Also, it's a shame you can't stick c4 on yourself ^^



the pkp is the best HMG in game IMO
m240b has a slower rof than the m249 but i feel it does more damage


Ah IC, well the pkp just feels a bit slow and recoily for me. I've heard said that most people consider it the best support weapon though, I mean the damage on it is good so I can see why most people would think that :-)

On October 04 2011 06:01 FagelBagel wrote:
You can however strap C4 to the MAV and EOD bot. A buddy and I have successfully planted at the stations in the park by arming with the EOD bot, blowing C4 when the first defenders come to disarm and then we knock them off the defuse with the MAV. Hilarity ensues.


Yeah I've seen those C4 EOD bot vids, they're hilarious ^^ I'm wondering though, can you stick C4 on teammates? For instance, stick one on the guy that goes in to make the fuse, and if he gets killed, blow up the opponents anyway with the c4 strapped to his corpse?
It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
October 04 2011 00:12 GMT
#3514
I quite like OP Métro, Caspian I like more but nonetheless it's not a bad map.

However, does anyone else has the issue of the game simply shutting down (like it would do if you pressed alt+F4?. It doesn't display an error message, it's like the game decided "Fuck you, I don't want you anymore!"
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Bartuc
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
October 04 2011 00:18 GMT
#3515
On October 04 2011 09:12 Seiniyta wrote:
I quite like OP Métro, Caspian I like more but nonetheless it's not a bad map.

However, does anyone else has the issue of the game simply shutting down (like it would do if you pressed alt+F4?. It doesn't display an error message, it's like the game decided "Fuck you, I don't want you anymore!"


Yeah I have that too sometimes. Quite annoying.
It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 04 2011 00:25 GMT
#3516
^I don't but I'll have random disconnects all the time.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 00:51:30
October 04 2011 00:50 GMT
#3517
I'd buy it if it was on steam.

And I'm not saying that just to be a douche. Tho quite buggy, which is beyond me how they are going to manage this close to release, Battlefield 3 is amazing! Best part for me so far was seeing this guy in recon running around at full speed trying to stab people (CoD style), he had somewhere along 40 deaths and 1 kill. And there are these amazing moments I for some odd reason have only found in battlefield games. Dying from having a tree falling on you, for instance, or standing on the third floor, dodge a rocket, and suddenly be standing on the second floor.

BUT, Origin is killing me. I'm not sure if its just me having trouble with it, but it refuses to cooperate with me. It has more bugs than Starship troopers, all the way from the thing crashing, to black dots covering my screen. It keeps random errors (and I mean random. Telling me it can't do something, and then proceed to do it, I get every time I click a button), and the whole thing just smacks of lowend programming. It keeps nagging on me to update my nvidia driver as well. But apparently, the newest nvidia driver isn't new enough..and then it proceeds to start the game anyways. The fact that the game has to be exited and started every time I want to join a server isn't optimal either, especially a buggy game like bf3. 1 out of 4 times I join a server, I have to just quit right away because of input lag..which wouldn't have happened if I didn't have to exit the game all the time!

I was really planning on preordering it. But seeing this beta, I think I might wait a couple of weeks to see how things pan out.

edit: When I say "origin", I mean the whole package. Including Battlelog
Horuku
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
October 04 2011 01:18 GMT
#3518
On October 04 2011 03:18 Expurgate wrote:
This is not Modern Warfare. This is Battlefield. Sprinting any place is a good way to get killed, because in BF3 as in real life there is a huge huge huge defender's advantage. You need to move slowly, stay proned or crouched, use suppressing fire from LMGs or riflemen to your advantage. Move along lanes where your teammates are suppressing enemy return fire. Use grenades to check corners where there might be someone lurking.

You have to understand that what you think is OP is actually a return to the way that games were for a long, long time. You're like the bronze leaguer, unable to see how to effectively combat strategies, and thus calling them overpowered. Once you spend more time playing, it will become easier.


I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I've been playing battlefield since the beginning when 1942 was released, and I've played every iteration of the series since then. It has never been like this, where two-three shots from an assault rifle will kill people. In fact, that is actually more along the lines of what COD is where twitch gameplay is revered. That's all high bullet damage encourages, where as requiring more bullets promotes strategic gameplay. BC2 damage was definitely way too low, seeing as how it literally took 10+ assault rifle rounds to drop someone.

And no, I am not like a bronze leaguer. I constantly go 4k+ points a round and find it stupid easy to drop large groups of people just by exploiting map awareness and dropping on a flank. While it feels great to unload from hipfire and kill 5+ people, it's really unfair and skill-less.

A happy medium would be between the damage now and BC2 damage. This is a video game, not real life. As I said, if you want the realism, go play hardcore.
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RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
October 04 2011 01:33 GMT
#3519
I agree with you there Horuku and I'm sure there will be some options to those who own the servers to change different things. I "heard" that right now were playing like a month old build of the game that has many many many things they have changed already. Like you I don't like trying to get to cover and taking two or three body shots and going down but that is something that they were aware of and knowing there aware at least we can hope they've changed it.

I'm not happy about having to use battle-log and origin together with the client but the game itself feels very solid even on this old build if you look at the big picture. It's going to be nice on that first morning were all on big ass conquest maps, that will erase all this beta BS away. :D
Aduromors
Profile Joined July 2009
United States279 Posts
October 04 2011 01:34 GMT
#3520
BC2 still had much deadlier infantry combat than BF2. BF has been on the slippery slope to Call of Duty gunplay for years, now the two are practically indistinguishable
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