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kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
January 26 2013 08:52 GMT
#7521
Could anyone give me their opinion on the state of the game today compared to say 5-6 years ago? I played a long time ago back when it was insanely hard to level, but didn't play too much due to discouragement from slow leveling. Aside from the leveling not being as hard to do, do you think the game has improved overall?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 09:05:29
January 26 2013 09:00 GMT
#7522
On January 26 2013 17:52 kmillz wrote:
Could anyone give me their opinion on the state of the game today compared to say 5-6 years ago? I played a long time ago back when it was insanely hard to level, but didn't play too much due to discouragement from slow leveling. Aside from the leveling not being as hard to do, do you think the game has improved overall?

A few big things that really changed in my opinion:
- You dont need to worry about buying equips til lvl 140, training until then is super fast.
- Potentials are where all your damage comes from now (% stat). Scrolls barely matter.
- Lots of new classes that are all improved versions of the old classes. I don't really see a point in making an explorer anymore.
- Training past lvl 110 is the most boring thing in the world. Half the time it's faster to just leech off a high level character than train yourself. And, considering that it (LHC) is the fastest exp by far, there's not much choice in the matter.
- Equip drop rates are noticeably higher, though I think they sell for less now?
- 3rd job is now lvl 60 and 4th job is lvl 100. Not as much decisionmaking when it comes to skills, since they lowered the SP needed to max most of them.

There's some good, some bad. I think the faster leveling is good, but the lack of diverse training areas sucks dick. The potential system also gives rich people / nx buyers like 20x the damage of an unfunded character, compared to maybe 2x the damage back in the old days.

One thing that's nice is that they changed the crafting system to actually be useful--you can actually make money off of crafting. Ores can be mined instead of just hoping for drops from monsters now. There's a TON more party quests now, which is also cool (though most of them are still a waste of time if you're trying to level).
:)
kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
January 26 2013 09:19 GMT
#7523
On January 26 2013 18:00 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 17:52 kmillz wrote:
Could anyone give me their opinion on the state of the game today compared to say 5-6 years ago? I played a long time ago back when it was insanely hard to level, but didn't play too much due to discouragement from slow leveling. Aside from the leveling not being as hard to do, do you think the game has improved overall?

A few big things that really changed in my opinion:
- You dont need to worry about buying equips til lvl 140, training until then is super fast.
- Potentials are where all your damage comes from now (% stat). Scrolls barely matter.
- Lots of new classes that are all improved versions of the old classes. I don't really see a point in making an explorer anymore.
- Training past lvl 110 is the most boring thing in the world. Half the time it's faster to just leech off a high level character than train yourself. And, considering that it (LHC) is the fastest exp by far, there's not much choice in the matter.
- Equip drop rates are noticeably higher, though I think they sell for less now?
- 3rd job is now lvl 60 and 4th job is lvl 100. Not as much decisionmaking when it comes to skills, since they lowered the SP needed to max most of them.

There's some good, some bad. I think the faster leveling is good, but the lack of diverse training areas sucks dick. The potential system also gives rich people / nx buyers like 20x the damage of an unfunded character, compared to maybe 2x the damage back in the old days.

One thing that's nice is that they changed the crafting system to actually be useful--you can actually make money off of crafting. Ores can be mined instead of just hoping for drops from monsters now. There's a TON more party quests now, which is also cool (though most of them are still a waste of time if you're trying to level).


Thanks for the response, I'm downloading it now I can't believe my level 37 ice wizard still exists! :D
Yomi.Doom
Profile Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
January 26 2013 15:58 GMT
#7524
On January 26 2013 17:47 Elvex wrote:
hi whats up, been playing on windia. BT op.
[image loading]


dumb hacker, gtfo
lalib
Profile Joined December 2010
United States58 Posts
January 26 2013 17:06 GMT
#7525
On January 27 2013 00:58 Yomi.Doom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 17:47 Elvex wrote:
hi whats up, been playing on windia. BT op.
[image loading]


dumb hacker, gtfo


fucking hell my range is higher than that and I can't even finish dojo.
I ♥ Day[J]!
Elvex
Profile Joined August 2010
United States191 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 18:51:07
January 26 2013 17:14 GMT
#7526
On January 27 2013 02:06 lalib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 00:58 Yomi.Doom wrote:
On January 26 2013 17:47 Elvex wrote:
hi whats up, been playing on windia. BT op.
[image loading]


dumb hacker, gtfo


fucking hell my range is higher than that and I can't even finish dojo.


lolol. how do you even get your dojo time down? i find that i'm waiting like 15s for spawns sometimes, and that's where all that time goes. everything dies in like 1s to the op nodelay shit. also how do you get into empress? there are always like 10 people there spamming and trying to get in.

zz tried again, the last boss taking 20s to spawn killed my time
[image loading]
lalib
Profile Joined December 2010
United States58 Posts
January 28 2013 05:48 GMT
#7527
I ♥ Day[J]!
Halym
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada157 Posts
January 28 2013 12:26 GMT
#7528
That's what happens when Nexon builds a class that scales from 3 stats instead of 2.
Furyborn | TL Maplestory DOWNS TEAM HWAITING | http://www.twitch.tv/valarius
kesrith
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany393 Posts
January 28 2013 13:31 GMT
#7529
On January 28 2013 14:48 lalib wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCBtGgcjmwA

Can't be long until bt is officially supported.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
January 28 2013 14:11 GMT
#7530
the fuck lol.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 28 2013 14:38 GMT
#7531
Damn, Elvex is such a beast.
God Bless
kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
January 28 2013 20:59 GMT
#7532
On January 28 2013 22:31 kesrith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 14:48 lalib wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCBtGgcjmwA

Can't be long until bt is officially supported.


Stupid question but is that real or hacks? :O I am a noob so I can't tell lol
kesrith
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany393 Posts
January 28 2013 22:27 GMT
#7533
On January 29 2013 05:59 kmillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 22:31 kesrith wrote:
On January 28 2013 14:48 lalib wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCBtGgcjmwA

Can't be long until bt is officially supported.


Stupid question but is that real or hacks? :O I am a noob so I can't tell lol

I believe it is real but I bet you can buy a house with the money he spent on that character.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 28 2013 22:34 GMT
#7534
On January 29 2013 07:27 kesrith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 05:59 kmillz wrote:
On January 28 2013 22:31 kesrith wrote:
On January 28 2013 14:48 lalib wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCBtGgcjmwA

Can't be long until bt is officially supported.


Stupid question but is that real or hacks? :O I am a noob so I can't tell lol

I believe it is real but I bet you can buy a house with the money he spent on that character.

I can probably buy an iPhone with the money I spent on MS and I do maybe about 2% of that guy's damage so I'd say you're not far off with your estimate.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Yomi.Doom
Profile Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 19:10:15
January 29 2013 19:09 GMT
#7535
Guy doesn't kill HT that much faster than me... maybe like a minute or 2 faster. So house prob not accurate, maybe a top of the line desktop?

edit: although this is unlimited, and there's no damage cap. We'll see when we get that shit.
Halym
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada157 Posts
January 30 2013 06:50 GMT
#7536
On January 30 2013 04:09 Yomi.Doom wrote:
So house prob not accurate, maybe a top of the line desktop?


Yeah this actually is probably close to right.
Furyborn | TL Maplestory DOWNS TEAM HWAITING | http://www.twitch.tv/valarius
CyuntiyuL
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada1740 Posts
January 30 2013 18:46 GMT
#7537
AB link glitch was fixed with the maintenance. On the bright side, root Queen boss also works now apparently.
secret base
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
January 30 2013 20:12 GMT
#7538
Are bandits an extinct species? I haven't seen a single one since I started playing again.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 30 2013 20:33 GMT
#7539
On January 31 2013 05:12 RagequitBM wrote:
Are bandits an extinct species? I haven't seen a single one since I started playing again.


Adventures are basically extinct
Yomi.Doom
Profile Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
January 30 2013 20:52 GMT
#7540
Our guild has adventures as mains still. Well terrible and dirk are still maining adventurers last I checked.
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