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bubO
United States367 Posts
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cozzE
Australia357 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On March 31 2012 13:47 cozzE wrote: It's going to be a decent game but it's got nothing on GW2 atm in my eyes. have u tried both? then tell us the differences and why tera is lacking in the face of gw2 | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
On March 31 2012 15:07 Golgotha wrote: have u tried both? then tell us the differences and why tera is lacking in the face of gw2 tera's combat system is sluggish and slow, and the quests are actually just completely terrible by today's standards. gw2 has fluid combat mechanics and a fresh take on questing. easy choice to make imo | ||
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
On March 31 2012 16:03 deth wrote: tera's combat system is sluggish and slow, and the quests are actually just completely terrible by today's standards. gw2 has fluid combat mechanics and a fresh take on questing. easy choice to make imo While the quest bit is true, the combat comment is just complete not and makes me seriously doubt you played it. Same to, oh I don't know, the last half a dozen pages of this thread. You MMO people and your "my game is better than yours" discussions do realize that in the end the reason the MMO scene is such a sad entitled whiny bunch over in the west is.. you right? | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On March 31 2012 19:10 schimmetje wrote: While the quest bit is true, the combat comment is just complete not and makes me seriously doubt you played it. Same to, oh I don't know, the last half a dozen pages of this thread. You MMO people and your "my game is better than yours" discussions do realize that in the end the reason the MMO scene is such a sad entitled whiny bunch over in the west is.. you right? Just want to point out that he's from Australia, which is not precisely the definition of West. His complaints are legitimate, calling him entitled and whiny isn't going to change that. | ||
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
On March 31 2012 19:21 Praetorial wrote: Just want to point out that he's from Australia, which is not precisely the definition of West. His complaints are legitimate, calling him entitled and whiny isn't going to change that. If you're going to be like that, you know the earth is a globe right? His complaints combat wise aren't actually valid at all (I know, I know, someone is going to go "it's just my opinion", but that's really a cop out in face of the facts). The only faster/more twitchy game I've played (and I've played a few) is Blade & Soul, which is an entirely different kind of game. Basically what half the people in here do is want to convince others of their being "right" about "their" game and that's why almost every discussion of an MMO fails. It's always my game versus your game. Discuss it on it's own merits, or don't, because there's nothing else to be gained otherwise beside ego stroking. And that's what's making the MMO crowd so insufferable these days, not WoW or whatever. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On March 31 2012 20:27 schimmetje wrote: If you're going to be like that, you know the earth is a globe right? His complaints combat wise aren't actually valid at all (I know, I know, someone is going to go "it's just my opinion", but that's really a cop out in face of the facts). The only faster/more twitchy game I've played (and I've played a few) is Blade & Soul, which is an entirely different kind of game. Basically what half the people in here do is want to convince others of their being "right" about "their" game and that's why almost every discussion of an MMO fails. It's always my game versus your game. Discuss it on it's own merits, or don't, because there's nothing else to be gained otherwise beside ego stroking. And that's what's making the MMO crowd so insufferable these days, not WoW or whatever. blade and soul...wow. too bad ncsoft is going to focus on gw2 in the west and blade and soul will stay in the east. I hope this is not the case. | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
Even on the caster class I played, it was a good 1-1.2~ seconds to cast each attack, it didnt feel fast paced and twitch-based, it felt restrictive and slow. I would probably love it if i could move while attacking, but that would result in a lot of spell redesigning and probably require a fair amount of redesign to place emphasis on movement restricting abilities so the game isnt just 2 heros spinning around each other at the speed of clusterfuck spamming abilities. I think you're deluded if you pass my complaints off as "You MMO people" - I feel this game is seriously crippled by the restrictiveness of its combat; its not really a selling point in my eyes at all (especially considering how long monsters take to kill later on in the game, its an excersise in absolute boredom and grind). Restrictive combat system and laughable quests and an apparent lack of endgame - the game is languishing in korea at the moment and will inevitably fail as hard as age of conan in the west, too. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On April 03 2012 09:43 deth wrote: Let me clarify, in TERA whenever you attack with an ability you have to aim, activate the ability and wait for a pretty lengthy animation to complete before you can move again. Especially with melee classes (i played slayer and sorcerer? in beta) like slayer, even auto attacks feel like they take a LONG ass time to complete when im used to other mmos. some melee abilities you literally hit and wait 2 seconds before the animation/hit completes. How is that not clumsy and sluggish? Even on the caster class I played, it was a good 1-1.2~ seconds to cast each attack, it didnt feel fast paced and twitch-based, it felt restrictive and slow. I would probably love it if i could move while attacking, but that would result in a lot of spell redesigning and probably require a fair amount of redesign to place emphasis on movement restricting abilities so the game isnt just 2 heros spinning around each other at the speed of clusterfuck spamming abilities. I think you're deluded if you pass my complaints off as "You MMO people" - I feel this game is seriously crippled by the restrictiveness of its combat; its not really a selling point in my eyes at all (especially considering how long monsters take to kill later on in the game, its an excersise in absolute boredom and grind). Restrictive combat system and laughable quests and an apparent lack of endgame - the game is languishing in korea at the moment and will inevitably fail as hard as age of conan in the west, too. I understand it's a game and all, but please show me where you swing a hugeass broadsword in under a second. MMO's are not twitch based pvp, and should not be. It's action/reaction based but in this they give you a good window to react properly which makes for more complex pvp vs. 123124321312312312312 as fast as possible hoping you outdps the other guy. | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
On April 03 2012 09:49 Infernal_dream wrote: I understand it's a game and all, but please show me where you swing a hugeass broadsword in under a second. MMO's are not twitch based pvp, and should not be. It's action/reaction based but in this they give you a good window to react properly which makes for more complex pvp vs. 123124321312312312312 as fast as possible hoping you outdps the other guy. Well yeah, I guess I just don't find very slow reaction based combat fun or engaging - there will always be a certain crowd this could appeal to, and I could easily overlook my gripes with the combat if the rest of the game was well written and actually had some good content - but it doesn't. | ||
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Pwere
Canada1556 Posts
I don't see what's special about Tera. It's not unique in any way, shape or form. | ||
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jbui
United States193 Posts
On April 03 2012 11:53 Pwere wrote: Honestly, to me, it felt like Dragon's Nest, without block/dodge/skill cancelling and no attack move. Basically a slow Dragon's Nest with an open world and boring grind-oriented quests. Maybe.. it gets better after lvl 15 or so. I don't know, I was bored before that. I don't see what's special about Tera. It's not unique in any way, shape or form. i havent gotten past 20 but at 20 is when you can start doing dungeons and apparently you can grind things called BAM's i tried soloing 1 and i found it alot of fun | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 03 2012 11:53 Pwere wrote: Honestly, to me, it felt like Dragon's Nest, without block/dodge/skill cancelling and no attack move. Basically a slow Dragon's Nest with an open world and boring grind-oriented quests. Maybe.. it gets better after lvl 15 or so. I don't know, I was bored before that. I don't see what's special about Tera. It's not unique in any way, shape or form. You can kill anyone you want. If you've only played WoW-esque MMOs and have never experienced an open PvP system like EVE or L2, well... I guess you don't really know what to look for. That's what makes TERA, more than anything else. If you cried like a little bitch about 60 rogues ganking in STV, then you won't like it. If you actually manned up and fought back against them, you probably will. | ||
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MaYuu
Sweden516 Posts
On April 03 2012 11:53 Pwere wrote: Honestly, to me, it felt like Dragon's Nest, without block/dodge/skill cancelling and no attack move. Basically a slow Dragon's Nest with an open world and boring grind-oriented quests. Maybe.. it gets better after lvl 15 or so. I don't know, I was bored before that. I don't see what's special about Tera. It's not unique in any way, shape or form. Most MMO's are boring as shit untill you hit around max level. Anyone who has ever played a MMO should know that. | ||
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
On April 03 2012 16:35 MaYuu wrote: Most MMO's are boring as shit untill you hit around max level. Anyone who has ever played a MMO should know that. I actually enjoy the leveling experience more than anything in MMOs. Let people have their own opinions | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
On March 30 2012 18:03 rebOund wrote: Edit: Key is gone. Thanks rebOund for the key! Enjoyed it a lot and got to lvl 18. Don't know if I'll buy the real game though, but it was pretty fun. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On April 03 2012 12:15 Jibba wrote: You can kill anyone you want. If you've only played WoW-esque MMOs and have never experienced an open PvP system like EVE or L2, well... I guess you don't really know what to look for. That's what makes TERA, more than anything else. If you cried like a little bitch about 60 rogues ganking in STV, then you won't like it. If you actually manned up and fought back against them, you probably will. this! we finally get a mmorpg that has open world pvp. im tired of pvp servers that arent actually pvp servers, where the game holds your hands so that everything is fair and dandy. also the combat is skill based so that adds to the pvp experience. in this game the weak will get picked on by the strong. but that is war and how true pvp should be! let the big guys pick on us, we just gotta fight back harder and get revenge! | ||
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GARO
United States2255 Posts
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