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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 08 2013 03:03 GMT
#3521
On May 08 2013 11:21 Laneir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 07:36 NonY wrote:
I'm playing this game again a little bit. I applied to Liquid on TR with my 55 sorc but I think I'm actually gonna play my 60 warrior that is on MT. I think it's possible to transfer MT -> TR, right? If I do transfer, are there people here that could help me learn the dungeons? Or for that matter since it seems like there are some people in this thread who are on MT, any of you want to group? My gear is shit and I don't know the dungeons haha. I have all T12 +6/+7 or so and no zyrks (only one piece of jewelry that even has a slot). And I don't have all the master glyphs that I need. I just started doing dailies to get some rep gear but I don't have any of it yet. And I only have 2k gold haha. I don't mind putting dungeons off for a week or two while I just do dailies if that'll make things a lot easier.

I'm Corlo on TR and Jasari on MT

Hey apply again i accpeted you and you were on Cooldown, and if you transfer your zerker im sure we can put you in a static group. We carry sufficeny threw MCNM and HM we can for you too


No one carried me through MCHM yet. QQ.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 08 2013 10:43 GMT
#3522
Nony asking if people from TL will help him.

As if.

:D
Useless wet fish.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
May 08 2013 10:55 GMT
#3523
Getting "no such player" on MT for Jasari. I'll help out when I'm not occupied and you can ask me any questions regarding dungeons.
Stuck.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 14:07:51
May 08 2013 14:07 GMT
#3524
Thanks for looking me up but I just transferred to TR. My warrior is now Barcode on TR :D I applied to Liquid.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 01:49:03
May 10 2013 01:20 GMT
#3525
EDIT: nvm. I am moving this to the mouse thread.

EDIT2:

On May 08 2013 19:43 Capped wrote:
Nony asking if people from TL will help him.

As if.

:D


:D

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kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia490 Posts
May 14 2013 00:12 GMT
#3526
Hiya all , I just reinstalled the game and applied to TL guild on TR. I quit just before Nexus was released IIRC, and am now just trying to get in grip with all the new stuffs. Oh, I have 60 priest and zerk. Cheers
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 14 2013 00:20 GMT
#3527
Meh. After getting my Zerker to 60 I now feel like another, new lvl 60 char. I guess I will never get rich, lol.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 14 2013 04:54 GMT
#3528
Dat fuck Nony got +12 M&M already. I am jelly.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
May 14 2013 06:02 GMT
#3529
On May 14 2013 13:54 Sufficiency wrote:
Dat fuck Nony got +12 M&M already. I am jelly.

i randomly got an argon vitriol, sold it, then had the luckiest time enchanting. quite a string of luck haha
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 15 2013 04:06 GMT
#3530
Oh so I recently started playing this again. Completely unfunded and have a lvl 33 Berserker and lvl 47 Sorcerer(HNNNG).

For now Sorcerer feels kind of boring but I'll be grinding to 48 so that I can see how playing with celerity feels. With Berserker it's pretty ridiculous how he can 1-shot 10 quest mobs at around the same level. WIth sorcerer at 33 with junk equip I had to like Overchannel -> Lightning trap cancel -> Fire blast -> Void Pulse -> Magma Bomb -> Ice Needle -> Glacial Retreat -> Flaming Barrage to kill a normal mob. With Berserker I activate Dash, run around like an idiot and HURRR OVERCHARGE CYCLONE and kill them all, makes sense. Btw I also greatly prefer Cyclone over Thunder Strike in general. It's 100 times more consistent(either no crit = shit dmg or crit = overkill dmg, Cyclone almost always crits a few times).

Next project is trying to apply to an amazing guild.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 15 2013 07:25 GMT
#3531
So TS has a glyph that makes you charge and run at normal speed, which makes things a lot more fluid. Furthermore in boss fights you will be using TS a lot more because TS is more bursty (instead of spin-to-win while being completely vulnerable).
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 07:46:51
May 15 2013 07:41 GMT
#3532
On May 15 2013 16:25 Sufficiency wrote:
So TS has a glyph that makes you charge and run at normal speed, which makes things a lot more fluid. Furthermore in boss fights you will be using TS a lot more because TS is more bursty (instead of spin-to-win while being completely vulnerable).

Pretty sure they both have around the same animation duration, TS has insane afterlag. The runcharging of course is great, I'm not denying that. It is the main advantage, along with the Vamp blow combo being faster.. But if there's the chance and all else is equal and it's off cooldown, I prefer cyclone(as in when you don't plan on moving alot while charging)

Here I also was talking mostly about normal monsters, if you do bosses and need to do hit-and-run tactics TS -> VB is probably the way to go(but if he's knocked down or something, cyclone's amazing)

v Yup, with VB afterwards TS is faster. It's not always possible to link though, like when VB is on cooldown.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 15 2013 07:44 GMT
#3533
On May 15 2013 16:41 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 16:25 Sufficiency wrote:
So TS has a glyph that makes you charge and run at normal speed, which makes things a lot more fluid. Furthermore in boss fights you will be using TS a lot more because TS is more bursty (instead of spin-to-win while being completely vulnerable).

Pretty sure they both have around the same animation duration, TS has insane afterlag. The runcharging of course is great, I'm not denying that.


I am not sure what you mean.... both cyclone and TS can be comboed by Vampiric Blow afterwards - and you should.
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
May 15 2013 08:02 GMT
#3534
On May 15 2013 16:44 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 16:41 Shikyo wrote:
On May 15 2013 16:25 Sufficiency wrote:
So TS has a glyph that makes you charge and run at normal speed, which makes things a lot more fluid. Furthermore in boss fights you will be using TS a lot more because TS is more bursty (instead of spin-to-win while being completely vulnerable).

Pretty sure they both have around the same animation duration, TS has insane afterlag. The runcharging of course is great, I'm not denying that.


I am not sure what you mean.... both cyclone and TS can be comboed by Vampiric Blow afterwards - and you should.


At lower lvls what he is saying is quite true.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
May 15 2013 10:46 GMT
#3535
On May 15 2013 16:25 Sufficiency wrote:
So TS has a glyph that makes you charge and run at normal speed, which makes things a lot more fluid. Furthermore in boss fights you will be using TS a lot more because TS is more bursty (instead of spin-to-win while being completely vulnerable).

you are not vulnerable while doing cyclone, you can block at anytime
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 21:01:40
May 15 2013 21:00 GMT
#3536
Yup exactly, you can always cancel cyclone with block. You can instantly cancel cyclone with block after the last damage tick, as well. With TS you have a huge amount of lag afterwards before you can block. VB itself has a ton of lag as well - The safest move to do in fact is just plain cyclone.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 15 2013 22:07 GMT
#3537
On May 15 2013 19:46 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 16:25 Sufficiency wrote:
So TS has a glyph that makes you charge and run at normal speed, which makes things a lot more fluid. Furthermore in boss fights you will be using TS a lot more because TS is more bursty (instead of spin-to-win while being completely vulnerable).

you are not vulnerable while doing cyclone, you can block at anytime


Yes, but when you block you stop doing damage.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
May 15 2013 22:27 GMT
#3538
On May 16 2013 07:07 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 19:46 Yhamm wrote:
On May 15 2013 16:25 Sufficiency wrote:
So TS has a glyph that makes you charge and run at normal speed, which makes things a lot more fluid. Furthermore in boss fights you will be using TS a lot more because TS is more bursty (instead of spin-to-win while being completely vulnerable).

you are not vulnerable while doing cyclone, you can block at anytime


Yes, but when you block you stop doing damage.

yes obviously... but that's completely different than being vulnerable
TS is a bit more dangerous and it can be really frustrating. The charging is slow and you can easily be interrupted by any damage. Also, there is this short moment after a TS where you can't do anything
but its' the only skill where you will have such high damage, and that compensate all the disadvantages imo
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 15 2013 22:51 GMT
#3539
On May 16 2013 07:27 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 07:07 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 15 2013 19:46 Yhamm wrote:
On May 15 2013 16:25 Sufficiency wrote:
So TS has a glyph that makes you charge and run at normal speed, which makes things a lot more fluid. Furthermore in boss fights you will be using TS a lot more because TS is more bursty (instead of spin-to-win while being completely vulnerable).

you are not vulnerable while doing cyclone, you can block at anytime


Yes, but when you block you stop doing damage.

yes obviously... but that's completely different than being vulnerable
TS is a bit more dangerous and it can be really frustrating. The charging is slow and you can easily be interrupted by any damage. Also, there is this short moment after a TS where you can't do anything
but its' the only skill where you will have such high damage, and that compensate all the disadvantages imo


Yes of course.

If you give me a dummy to wreck at, I will definitely use Cyclone - from what I can tell, Cyclone does at least twice as much damage as TS on a full charge against a stationary enemy that doesn't fight back.

But to do the full damage, you have to keep in Cyclone for the full 6 hits - and that takes much longer time than a TS.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 00:17:39
May 16 2013 00:15 GMT
#3540
Now that we're on the topic of Berserker, what's his standard PvP combo in the case he lands a staggering blow or something? As in, what gives him the highest amount of guaranteed damage?

Also it's true that with Cyclone you need to land all hits but it also is true that after landing them you can INSTANTLY run or attack again whereas with TS you lag for ages.
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