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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 08 2010 21:03 GMT
#921
Ronaldo is THE best striker of all time.

Its unfair to compare with him.
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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
October 08 2010 21:13 GMT
#922
Not only that comparing Klose to Ronaldo is like comparing apples to oranges. Klose is more of a right place right time great holder and finisher of the ball (sort of like a Van Nistelrooy type of player). Ronaldo played completely differently.
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Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 21:21:22
October 08 2010 21:16 GMT
#923
On October 09 2010 05:45 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 05:05 Holgerius wrote:
Klose is awesome, and I love him. But calling him one of the world's best strikers of all time is going a bit too far. =/


Goals > your opinion


LOL. Then Inzaghi is the best striker ever? He is the record holder for goals in european competitions in clubs. Please. Klose is a good player at best. Just to speak about current strikers, Eto'o, Rooney, C. Ronaldo, Messi, Milito and Drogba are all way better for him in terms of contribuition to the team.

To judge a striker only for goals is silly.
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 21:43:32
October 08 2010 21:38 GMT
#924
Maybe it is apples and oranges, but if somebody wants to compare him with the greatest strikers of all time, then this only proves the point.

And I don't agree with the list above. But discussing that is just fruitless, comparing 17 different kind of offensive players.

Ah well, goals really do speak for themselves, so "good player at best" is just wrong. That's enough for me.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 21:51:46
October 08 2010 21:51 GMT
#925
He's undoubtedly one of the best German strikers ever and has proven himself repeatedly in WC and Euros. But his club achievements are nowhere near as impressive and more importantly he never was a genius like Ronaldo. Thus I think calling him one of the best strikers in the history of football maybe too much, but his consistency and brilliant international form are rare nowadays.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 09 2010 12:06 GMT
#926
On October 09 2010 06:16 Gheizen64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 05:45 SuperArc wrote:
On October 09 2010 05:05 Holgerius wrote:
Klose is awesome, and I love him. But calling him one of the world's best strikers of all time is going a bit too far. =/


Goals > your opinion


LOL. Then Inzaghi is the best striker ever? He is the record holder for goals in european competitions in clubs. Please. Klose is a good player at best. Just to speak about current strikers, Eto'o, Rooney, C. Ronaldo, Messi, Milito and Drogba are all way better for him in terms of contribuition to the team.

To judge a striker only for goals is silly.


Raul=Inzaghi.
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
October 09 2010 12:39 GMT
#927
On October 09 2010 06:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Thus I think calling him one of the best strikers in the history of football maybe too much


It would be absurd. On another forum, we got 16 people together and each picked an all-time team NFL draft style, including six subs, and Klose was undrafted. Number of goals =/= skill, especially in an era with a ton of meaningless friendlies and lots of games against awful countries where you can run up the score. Just looking through his international goals on wiki and the quality of opposition is lolbad.

If we pretend Muller, Rummenigge, Klinsmann, Voller, Seeler etc never existed, he might have a shot at being the best German striker ever.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 09 2010 12:40 GMT
#928
Totti has scored more goals than Klose by the way. ^__^
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Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
October 09 2010 15:33 GMT
#929
Klose was an outstanding player back in 2006 and earlier. His stats in the Bundesliga were just amazing.

Now he is average at best. If you ask me, he really sucks when playing for Munich and shouldn't play. For the national team he seems to be okay, but just because he makes some lucky goals doesn't mean he is anywhere near a world class striker. In my opinion Löw should start giving other strikers a real chance to play.
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duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
October 09 2010 15:50 GMT
#930
yeah but who else would be better? Gomez?
The only one I can think of is Helmes, but he needs to get his form back after the injury.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 09 2010 17:43 GMT
#931
On October 10 2010 00:33 Ragoo wrote:
Klose was an outstanding player back in 2006 and earlier. His stats in the Bundesliga were just amazing.

Now he is average at best. If you ask me, he really sucks when playing for Munich and shouldn't play. For the national team he seems to be okay, but just because he makes some lucky goals doesn't mean he is anywhere near a world class striker. In my opinion Löw should start giving other strikers a real chance to play.


dude how can you call Klose -AVERAGE- at best after this world cup

Klose is the only good pure striker Germany have left (apart from Helmes).
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Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
October 09 2010 18:03 GMT
#932
He played like shit for years in the Bundesliga now. He is clearly just an average player when it comes to scoring goals. Just because he is good in one world cup doesn't mean anything.
No goals this season, 3 goals last season, and 10 goals the two seasons before that. And he plays for the most dominant team in Germany. How do you call that if not average?

And why is Kuranyi worse? Kießling not good enough last season? Cacau sucked as well, right?

Klose is good with the head and he runs alot. Apart from that he is horrible and nowhere near as good as other really good strikers both in the Bundesliga and elsewhere.
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ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
October 09 2010 18:15 GMT
#933
lol
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
October 09 2010 18:23 GMT
#934
On October 10 2010 03:03 Ragoo wrote:
He played like shit for years in the Bundesliga now. He is clearly just an average player when it comes to scoring goals. Just because he is good in one world cup doesn't mean anything.
No goals this season, 3 goals last season, and 10 goals the two seasons before that. And he plays for the most dominant team in Germany. How do you call that if not average?

And why is Kuranyi worse? Kießling not good enough last season? Cacau sucked as well, right?

Klose is good with the head and he runs alot. Apart from that he is horrible and nowhere near as good as other really good strikers both in the Bundesliga and elsewhere.


lol hes been good in all the world cups he played in...

Muller>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Klose
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 09 2010 18:45 GMT
#935
wow there are still Klose haters in Germany?

How many times more must he prove himself?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
October 10 2010 00:19 GMT
#936
On October 10 2010 03:23 lxginverse wrote:
lol hes been good in all the world cups he played in...


As I said: He WAS an outstanding striker once.
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 10:22:36
October 10 2010 10:20 GMT
#937
On October 10 2010 09:19 Ragoo wrote:
As I said: He WAS an outstanding striker once.

Yup, he was beastly when he played for Bremen, except in his last season there. After that he steadily declined. DFB should pay a compensation fee to Bayern because they give Klose the opportunity to train inbetween his matches for Germany.

Now he is very good for the national team and that's it. On the club level, which is the most important thing for a football player, he is mediocre at best. His first seasons for Bayern were ok, because he made few assists and scored something like 10 goals, and that were his best seasons in the last years...
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 10 2010 10:25 GMT
#938
On October 10 2010 19:20 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 09:19 Ragoo wrote:
As I said: He WAS an outstanding striker once.

Yup, he was beastly when he played for Bremen, except in his last season there. After that he steadily declined. DFB should pay a compensation fee to Bayern because they give Klose the opportunity to train inbetween his matches for Germany.

Now he is very good for the national team and that's it. On the club level, which is the most important thing for a football player, he is mediocre at best. His first seasons for Bayern were ok, because he made few assists and scored something like 10 goals, and that were his best seasons in the last years...


lol the most important thing for a football player is the world cup
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#939
On October 10 2010 19:25 SuperArc wrote:
lol the most important thing for a football player is the world cup

World Cups are just tournaments every player would love to win due to fame(and even that differs from player to player, just look @ Mehmet Scholl), nothing else. You do not become a great player when you play up to 7 good games every 4 years. But due to the rarity of World Cups and due to the bigger fanbase you will be remembered if you win(and only then), that's why players care about it. Every 4 years. No player gives a fuck about World Cups at the moment, and they won't the next 3,5 years.

You become a great player when you prove your worth week to week at the highest level in football, which means the big leagues and Champions League(CL is qualitywise the hardest cup to win by far). That's where 95% of your career happens, that's where you earn your money, that's where you want to shine when you want to be recognized as a great player. That's where players like Xavi, Messi or C.Ronaldo earned their status. Xavi now confirmed the status he has for several years by winning a WC, he didn't attain it there.

Klose fails at club level right now, and you can see it even in this thread - he is not recognized as a great player, only because he played a few good World Cups.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 10 2010 12:02 GMT
#940
On October 10 2010 21:00 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 19:25 SuperArc wrote:
lol the most important thing for a football player is the world cup

World Cups are just tournaments every player would love to win due to fame(and even that differs from player to player, just look @ Mehmet Scholl), nothing else. You do not become a great player when you play up to 7 good games every 4 years. But due to the rarity of World Cups and due to the bigger fanbase you will be remembered if you win(and only then), that's why players care about it. Every 4 years. No player gives a fuck about World Cups at the moment, and they won't the next 3,5 years.

You become a great player when you prove your worth week to week at the highest level in football, which means the big leagues and Champions League(CL is qualitywise the hardest cup to win by far). That's where 95% of your career happens, that's where you earn your money, that's where you want to shine when you want to be recognized as a great player. That's where players like Xavi, Messi or C.Ronaldo earned their status. Xavi now confirmed the status he has for several years by winning a WC, he didn't attain it there.

Klose fails at club level right now, and you can see it even in this thread - he is not recognized as a great player, only because he played a few good World Cups.


Oh yeah, Maradonna, Pele, Zidane all become big by winning CL.
I totally forgot that!

Hell, tons of players say they'd trade their CL title for a WC title.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
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