2010-2011 football (soccer) thread - Page 47

On October 09 2010 05:45 SuperArc wrote:


Goals > your opinion

On October 09 2010 06:16 Gheizen64 wrote:


LOL. Then Inzaghi is the best striker ever? He is the record holder for goals in european competitions in clubs. Please. Klose is a good player at best. Just to speak about current strikers, Eto'o, Rooney, C. Ronaldo, Messi, Milito and Drogba are all way better for him in terms of contribuition to the team.

To judge a striker only for goals is silly.

On October 09 2010 06:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Thus I think calling him one of the best strikers in the history of football maybe too much

On October 10 2010 00:33 Ragoo wrote:
Klose was an outstanding player back in 2006 and earlier. His stats in the Bundesliga were just amazing.

Now he is average at best. If you ask me, he really sucks when playing for Munich and shouldn't play. For the national team he seems to be okay, but just because he makes some lucky goals doesn't mean he is anywhere near a world class striker. In my opinion Löw should start giving other strikers a real chance to play.

On October 10 2010 03:03 Ragoo wrote:
He played like shit for years in the Bundesliga now. He is clearly just an average player when it comes to scoring goals. Just because he is good in one world cup doesn't mean anything.
No goals this season, 3 goals last season, and 10 goals the two seasons before that. And he plays for the most dominant team in Germany. How do you call that if not average?

And why is Kuranyi worse? Kießling not good enough last season? Cacau sucked as well, right?

Klose is good with the head and he runs alot. Apart from that he is horrible and nowhere near as good as other really good strikers both in the Bundesliga and elsewhere.

On October 10 2010 03:23 lxginverse wrote:
lol hes been good in all the world cups he played in...

On October 10 2010 09:19 Ragoo wrote:
As I said: He WAS an outstanding striker once.

On October 10 2010 19:20 clusen wrote:

Yup, he was beastly when he played for Bremen, except in his last season there. After that he steadily declined. DFB should pay a compensation fee to Bayern because they give Klose the opportunity to train inbetween his matches for Germany.

Now he is very good for the national team and that's it. On the club level, which is the most important thing for a football player, he is mediocre at best. His first seasons for Bayern were ok, because he made few assists and scored something like 10 goals, and that were his best seasons in the last years...

On October 10 2010 19:25 SuperArc wrote:
lol the most important thing for a football player is the world cup

On October 10 2010 21:00 clusen wrote:

World Cups are just tournaments every player would love to win due to fame(and even that differs from player to player, just look @ Mehmet Scholl), nothing else. You do not become a great player when you play up to 7 good games every 4 years. But due to the rarity of World Cups and due to the bigger fanbase you will be remembered if you win(and only then), that's why players care about it. Every 4 years. No player gives a fuck about World Cups at the moment, and they won't the next 3,5 years.

You become a great player when you prove your worth week to week at the highest level in football, which means the big leagues and Champions League(CL is qualitywise the hardest cup to win by far). That's where 95% of your career happens, that's where you earn your money, that's where you want to shine when you want to be recognized as a great player. That's where players like Xavi, Messi or C.Ronaldo earned their status. Xavi now confirmed the status he has for several years by winning a WC, he didn't attain it there.

Klose fails at club level right now, and you can see it even in this thread - he is not recognized as a great player, only because he played a few good World Cups.