EPT2010-2011 football (soccer) thread - Page 116
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28914 Posts
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:17 Liquid`Drone wrote: lol hahaha yessss | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:17 Liquid`Drone wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsEbf-o83fc&feature=player_embedded lol lol haha | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Azza
China650 Posts
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
Lets go Lech!!! | ||
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norlock
Netherlands918 Posts
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Sadir
Vatican City State1176 Posts
On February 24 2011 21:18 Liquid`Drone wrote: yea this dutch generation certainly has unsympathetic players but cmon, spain is no better. hm...van bommel, de jong? | ||
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TArujo
Portugal1687 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28914 Posts
robben is one of _the_ major divers out there | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On February 24 2011 21:18 Liquid`Drone wrote: yea this dutch generation certainly has unsympathetic players but cmon, spain is no better. other than Ramos i can't think of any Spanish player who's dirty in the field. And ramos isnt even that bad o.o | ||
Lovedrop
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On February 24 2011 20:17 Liquid`Drone wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsEbf-o83fc&feature=player_embedded lol hahahaha spectacular | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28914 Posts
honestly though, you're right, with spain the current generation is more on a "neutral" level. in fact generally I guess spanish players are much better than portuguese or latin americans, but they're kinda mingled together in my head. that being said though, I definitely have the impression that spanish supporters are very.. accepting of diving and other types of cheating (attitude towards doping in general), even if the current generation of players is not so bad. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
. Its just a part of culture it doesnt make it wrong. And the fact that they manage to do it also means you dont have to many Aaron Ramseys in Spain either. | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
On February 25 2011 08:12 Liquid`Drone wrote: robben is one of _the_ major divers out there He also strangled Muller in the middle of a game  | ||
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
On February 25 2011 08:52 Rebs wrote: theres a fine line between straight up diving and trying to force decisions, if youve made it into a position where you can force a suspect challenge and get contact then wether you couldve stayed up or not is irrelevent and good on you . Its just a part of culture it doesnt make it wrong. And the fact that they manage to do it also means you dont have to many Aaron Ramseys in Spain either. no one has a problem with people going down when fouled, it's the embellishment of fouls to draw cards, the bullying/crowding of referees, time wasting and general gamesmanship that seems to be run of the mill in southern europe. "its just a part of the culture" is not an excuse for cheating. sorry. while we're on the topic, the entire culture of constantly whining about referees is incredibly childish, and it's sad to see such a large population of the football world fixated on it. i feel like we've had this discussion 7 or 8 times over the years on TL and i don't particularly feel like having it again, but i think that the european referees have been improving each year in properly calling fouls, giving cards for dangerous tackles and being resilient of attempts to trick them. referees obviously deserve more respect, more pay and technological aids. it is a ridiculous world where managers take out pieces of paper with lists of mistakes by referees compiled by people watching the game with 100 different viewpoints, where pundits watch a slow motion replay for the 4th time and then decide that the referee has made a "bad mistake" or is having a "bad game", yet we can't give them fucking goal-line cameras? it's truly a disgrace. in the face of all this, we have people promoting acceptance of cheating as "culture". it is a step in the completely wrong direction, and it is a mindset that is so damaging to football. | ||
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norlock
Netherlands918 Posts
On February 25 2011 09:44 uberMatt wrote: no one has a problem with people going down when fouled, it's the embellishment of fouls to draw cards, the bullying/crowding of referees, time wasting and general gamesmanship that seems to be run of the mill in southern europe. "its just a part of the culture" is not an excuse for cheating. sorry. while we're on the topic, the entire culture of constantly whining about referees is incredibly childish, and it's sad to see such a large population of the football world fixated on it. Well it comes from a lot of mindgames, constandly trying to intimidate the opponent without getting cards ore something. It is good to do it a few times, just to let them know they can't fk with you. But some players just do it all the time and it is really bad mannered. Like what gattusso is doing, ore other players. | ||
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