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I might need to take a month or two off. What shall my name be upon return? 
Poll: New login name?Liquid-Squirrel - Owning chess, for TL. (53) 79% Schmooples - Leliana's #1 party pig. (7) 10% Brutalisk - No comment. (5) 7% Sarevok - Keep it as it is. (2) 3% 67 total votes Your vote: New login name? (Vote): Sarevok - Keep it as it is. (Vote): Schmooples - Leliana's #1 party pig. (Vote): Liquid-Squirrel - Owning chess, for TL. (Vote): Brutalisk - No comment.
New Poll. + = 
Poll: Am I an asshole?Yes. (52) 59% Maybe? (20) 23% No. (16) 18% 88 total votes Your vote: Am I an asshole? (Vote): Yes. (Vote): No. (Vote): Maybe?
Stream (Or up on the right under non-featured streams list.)
SCHEDULE Chess spattered at random times.
I will try showing some random games as well like Mass Effect when I play. Can't promise it will be quality enough.
Poll: What would you like to see aside from chess? (Vote): WoW with a friend/family mebers/out of boredom. (Vote): Random SC commentaries from reps. (Vote): Snes games. (Seiken Densetsu 3, Breath of Fire 2, something else I never finished, etc etc.) (Vote): Random music, like a web-radio. (Vote): Some PC games. (Vote): Other similar. Or not.
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I like the idea. I've learned a lot from watching Kingscrusher's 5 minute blitz games on you-tube. You can learn a lot from listening to the thought process of good players, this definitely sounds cool.
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This sounds really cool. Please talk and discuss on the stream too!
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mdb wrote: whats your rating?
On ICC I mostly play 5-minute. Right now I'm over 2500 if it says anything to you. In real life you will probably never know. 
If you want me to relate to other better known players and their 5-minute rating I can look them up, but it doesn't mean much. Maybe a game example could do the trick better.
Note: On ICC those are random pairings, and they have a separate rating from blitz or standard. There's an entire category called 5-minute, and 15-minute because you can't censor or block players, you get paired up randomly.
ForTheSwarm wrote: This sounds really cool. Please talk and discuss on the stream too!
It will all depend on the speed. Right now I could test it but my upload speed is capped around 8 kbyte/sec, which would rule out sound for sure. I'm getting cable, but it's christmas time.
Also on ICC there's fancy things with examine board function. Showing arrows, marking squares, make pieces disappear etc.
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8 kbs? What? Are you streaming from dialup or something?
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Pokebunny wrote: 8 kbs? What? Are you streaming from dialup or something?
ADSL. Could double the 8 but then it would give me 5 seconds of lag. 8 kbyte is around the limit where my opponents wouldn't start flaming me for having too much lag in a 5 minute game.
Gonna change soon.
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It`d be cool if you could play some of the other TL members like jfazz or lightman if they`re up for it (or me, I suppose, but I`d probably get rolled).
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Damn, 2500+? Are you an IM or something?
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I don't know much about competitive chess playing, but I will definitely take a look at your stream if it is on.
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when in january do you expect to start?
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On December 25 2009 12:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Damn, 2500+? Are you an IM or something? 2500 can be very very impressive or just really good. ELO isn't immune to inflating and deflating scores but either way 2500+ is in the more capable area of players either way he should be great.
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It'd be awesome if you could commentate and elaborate on your thought process a bit. Really looking forward to this.
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On December 25 2009 13:26 Virtue wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 12:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Damn, 2500+? Are you an IM or something? 2500 can be very very impressive or just really good. ELO isn't immune to inflating and deflating scores but either way 2500+ is in the more capable area of players either way he should be great.
well over 2500 on icc is quite quite good, and usually puts you on the best list. I'd be curious as to your ID there because I'm sure I've seen it if you're that high in the 5 minute pool.
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Sounds great, as a novice player I'd appreciate it if it'd be easy to understand for both laymen and professionals alike, but hey, beggars can't be choosers
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On December 25 2009 13:26 Virtue wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 12:04 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Damn, 2500+? Are you an IM or something? 2500 can be very very impressive or just really good. ELO isn't immune to inflating and deflating scores but either way 2500+ is in the more capable area of players either way he should be great. 2500+ on ICC is like A+ rank on iccup, it's pretty much all masters, GMs and IMs at that level. ICC rating is harder than USCF and FIDE honestly.
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Yeah, thats higher than me on ICC!
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I would certainly watch if you do this
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Mammoth post on the horizon. I don't look for a little more than a day all of a sudden ten new posts.
goldrush wrote: It`d be cool if you could play some of the other TL members like jfazz or lightman if they`re up for it (or me, I suppose, but I`d probably get rolled).
Actually I think I could give a simultan to interested parties as an itro. You can have a trial at ICC, so you could participate for free.
Bill Murray wrote: when in january do you expect to start?
Either in the following three days or as soon as my new provider starts working in january.
Orome wrote: It'd be awesome if you could commentate and elaborate on your thought process a bit. Really looking forward to this.
We'll see how it pans out. I don't have a mic at the moment, and I was planning to stream the music I listen to while playing. But with the examine board option I can show a few tricks post-game. Also you could ask questions on stream chat which I could either answer or show right on board.
I'm not much into teaching opening theory. I could do that, but I think you can fill the ocean with such books and teachers and papers and articles. I'm more into teaching thought processes, and longer term plan making.
But to be honest most of the time I just rant about misconceptions and random crap. You'll see soon enough. 
On December 25 2009 14:50 Divinek wrote: well over 2500 on icc is quite quite good, and usually puts you on the best list. I'd be curious as to your ID there because I'm sure I've seen it if you're that high in the 5 minute pool.
Sarevok. I just changed IDs a few weeks ago. I turned over 2600 last night, but it was more luck than skills this time actually. The best list can be misleading because you can ask for not being listed there. You can use the rank command, but it only shows people a few places around you. And of course both are of active players only. When Hikaru, Radjabov, Gata, Loeky, Carlsen etc play you tend to find yourself much lower all of a sudden. 
On December 25 2009 16:12 writer22816 wrote:Sounds great, as a novice player I'd appreciate it if it'd be easy to understand for both laymen and professionals alike, but hey, beggars can't be choosers 
We'll see. But since there are some people who actually seem to like my play I think it could be fun if nothing else.
On December 25 2009 18:07 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: 2500+ on ICC is like A+ rank on iccup, it's pretty much all masters, GMs and IMs at that level. ICC rating is harder than USCF and FIDE honestly.
If not harder, but it's different. There are grandmasters chilling at 1800 and there's untitled players going over 2500. PhilHellmuth is a nice example. And of course there are smurfs like LoveNicePeople.
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That's what I'm saying though, I struggled at the 1400-1500 level on ICC when I was ranked 1700~ USCF. It could just be the competition around me sucks in real life though, or maybe I'm not as good at blitz as I am at slow :D.
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Well, where is the stream! Grrr 
Do it! ^_^;;
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That is insanely impressive. I assume you routinely get into games with Short and Nakamura? I can only hit 2200 before I hit a wall. Your opening knowledge must be extensive.
Come to think of it, what's your real life rating? No one can just play internet chessgames and get that good. It would be like some amateur tennis player only practicing at home with friends, then go out and be able to beat pros.
PS are you Russian?
And getting to 2500 is about as hard as getting A+ on ICCUP, if not harder. You have to dedicate 4 hours a day of study to chess for many years to come anywhere close to 2500 FIDE.
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I would DEFINITELY watch a stream of this. 2500+ on ICC = Really god damn impressive. Live commentary would be excellent as well. I've watched the majority of KingsCrusher's library of games and have immensely enjoyed it, and would love to see another player who (probably) has different openings.
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I've been interested in getting better at chess for a while now and would definitely enjoy watching a stream of someone at such a high skill level, even if most of it will probably go over my head.
Looking forward to it.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: That's what I'm saying though, I struggled at the 1400-1500 level on ICC when I was ranked 1700~ USCF. It could just be the competition around me sucks in real life though, or maybe I'm not as good at blitz as I am at slow :D.
Blitz is often like an entirely different game. I don't mean that you need no skills for it, but it prefers a different skillset. I would say the two most important thing for blitz are rock solid cool nerves and general knowledge of chess. The former can net you wins and the later can save you important seconds to do the former better.
Try wrote: That is insanely impressive. I assume you routinely get into games with Short and Nakamura? I can only hit 2200 before I hit a wall. Your opening knowledge must be extensive.
Again. Well with both colours I know things like the King's Gambit, Vienna, King's Indian, Philidor and Caro on a considerable level maybe the Volga, too. With white I also have adequate knowledge of the Sicilian main lines, but mostly the sidelines, a line or two of the Spanish, what else... The rest I know well are just basic black defenses with a tempo advantage. With black I think I'm fine with the Janisch and a few lines of the French. I've tried a lot of stuff over the years. A few years ago I was really into improving my repertoire, but since then I seem to be living off just that. I don't think I've added many new things as of late. Maybe a deeper knowledge of the Orangutan (1. b4) and the Scandinavian.
As for Short, he plays on Playchess. Maybe I'll meet him on board once I check that site out too, but I'm not all too eager. I like ICC. Naka is a tough one. And I don't just mean tough to beat. You can't really win against him. Because even if you achieve a draw, let alone win, people will start flaming you and calling you a cheater, or just flame you telling you just got lucky. And usually the first person to start flaming is Hikaru himself. He's a really nice guy otherwise, but he is the hero and if you play against him you are the devil.
I played Carlsen twice. Got completely demolished. Like... One of it was maybe the only game in my life where I really felt I had no chance no matter how good I played or what I did. But I think it's no shame in going 0-2 against Magnus. 
No I'm not russian. I'm not active in real life tourneys any more. Haven't been for a while. I'm thinking about a few tournaments I used to love in the past for next summer, maybe I'll enroll. But I'll be honest... If I can instead go to a foreign country to meet some old friends I won't think for a second. If I can chill with a chick or woman I like during those 9 days I won't think for a second. But it's a long story and I really don't want to bore people with ranting too much.
BalloonFight wrote: I would DEFINITELY watch a stream of this. 2500+ on ICC = Really god damn impressive. Live commentary would be excellent as well. I've watched the majority of KingsCrusher's library of games and have immensely enjoyed it, and would love to see another player who (probably) has different openings.
Just don't expect much of my openings. Mostly it goes like this. I sac two pawns in the opening sometimes for no counterplay then they either make a mistake and I win or I lose like an arse. Yes I can't say I know nothing of openings, there are some I know pretty well, but mostly I play sidelines even if I play regular openings. But you will see I think. I may dig up a better game today.
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Nakamura is a douchebag. Ive had a few arguments with him, due to us having the worked mutually with the same two players before (Larry Christiansen and Joel Benjamin). While Hikaru is much stronger than me, the way he treats non-masters in discussion is disgusting.
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On December 27 2009 10:09 Ng5 wrote:I'm not much into teaching opening theory. I could do that, but I think you can fill the ocean with such books and teachers and papers and articles. I'm more into teaching thought processes, and longer term plan making. But to be honest most of the time I just rant about misconceptions and random crap. You'll see soon enough. 
This is the only kind of chess theory that is interesting, I would love to hear rants about thought process. Definitely looking forward to this if you decide to do it.
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jfazz wrote: Nakamura is a douchebag. Ive had a few arguments with him, due to us having the worked mutually with the same two players before (Larry Christiansen and Joel Benjamin). While Hikaru is much stronger than me, the way he treats non-masters in discussion is disgusting.
He's been nice to me in the past. We talked on a few occasions, but I don't think he even remembers to be honest. Just don't play him. He was part of the reasons I stopped playing 15-minute. I wanted to set the record for that a while ago when D-Squared was the man (he is a beast, too by the way). The people I really love are Gata, Loeky and Atalik. Atalik can be quite blunt and proud too, but I've always liked him for some reason. And I also have a biggish set of people I like to watch playing when I'm bored or can't sleep. (I've learnt the later one from Adamredsox, he's an extremely nice helper.) It's not that dependant on rating though, I just have my favourites and sometimes it still feels weird when I get paired up against people I've been watching for four years.
Edit: Oh and how could I forget Miguel Quinteros! It always warms my heart to see him play on ICC.
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I may have to hit you up for some help, I am playing in two tournaments for FM norms in january
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chess.fm
much better than streaming
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I would love to see this. I have been playing ever since I was a kid, but I am of course not even close to your level. I am sure it would be interesting to see/hear your thoughtprocess and I think it would considerably improve my game.
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On December 28 2009 01:23 Quint wrote: I would love to see this. I have been playing ever since I was a kid, but I am of course not even close to your level. I am sure it would be interesting to see/hear your thoughtprocess and I think it would considerably improve my game.
Check out www.chess.fm
It's even better, with a grandmaster going over a game, discussing the reasoning, showing the possible variations, etc. Very very entertaining and instructive.
Here's one to check out: http://webcast.chessclub.com/London09/Round2/GOTD.html
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My new provider will kick in on the week of the fourth of january if all goes well.
Until then you can bugger me on ICC if you have an account.
Peace.
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Any idea what 2500+ on ICC equals on Playchess? I guess above 3000?
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I don't have a clue. This is not regular blitz on ICC. It's different because the pairings are random and you never know who you're going to play. It also has an entirely separate rating '5-minute'.
I prefer to play that because it's somewhat random.
On Playchess I've only played like four games against ~1600. I plan to subscribe earlier next year, though. A friend of mine keeps bugging me to play there.
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Next week.
I'll have to clean out my desktop anyway and hide all the porn.
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I asked around. Talking about running games on ICC is not prohibited, so I can do that. I thought about showing making moves in my correspondence games, too but discussion of running games is forbidden there - and I doubt it would be interesting watching me looking at the position for minutes than making a move while humming a tune.
Aside from that I got in the mood to show if I play some games scarcely. That doesn't happen too often, though. The game I play the most is Gemcraft and I only play that like once every two weeks. 
I'm taking suggestions if you're interested to see anything. Also if you want to see a specific opening in blitz, I know a few moves and I don't mind doing some research and dig into new things. I could also play some 15-minute games with them which could improve quality and make for more lengthy explanations.
Edit: I started giving random simuls, I think it might be fun to watch for some. Edit2: So far what everyone seems to wanna hear is me ranting and dissing other players.
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2500 on ICC is sick. I made 2300 on WCN when it was around and went over to icc and could just keep between 1900-2000 and never really got over that wall. It is so tough compared to other sites.
How is your standard game? You can see some high rated blitz players on icc with terrible standard ratings because they are just fast.
If you stream i'd love to watch. Standard games would be awesome as you discuss thought patterns ect.
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I don't intend to steal your thunder Ng5, and if you want I'll edit this out, but I figure the people reading this thread might be interested.
http://www.chessvideos.tv/forum/viewforum.php?f=29 has a ton of live commentaries from an IM who has a similar 5-minute rating to the OP.
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I rarely play standard except for the occasional tournaments. If I could find someone I actually know I could do that. Maybe I could convince a WIM I've been talking to recently. In standard games you tend to be seeing less wild things, though. I can't always play the unsound but fun things I do in 5-minute.
So far I have 2 wins and 1 losses - or 3 wins - and standing around 22xx. I never really played standard much. Even on my old account I haven't played more than sixty, more than half of it against an engine. I wanted to be the first who beats it in 15 minute standard. 
I think the possibilities are quite rich. I'm actually expecting it more than I thought I would. I daresay I'm anxious. Which is weird because I've never been social and always been very private. The sole thought of talking on a mike made me go ewww :r at first.
I'm negotiating with the correspondence site's owners, maybe they'll let me stream my ideas on running games. It could even serve them as advertisement.
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Fenneth wrote:I don't intend to steal your thunder Ng5, and if you want I'll edit this out, but I figure the people reading this thread might be interested. http://www.chessvideos.tv/forum/viewforum.php?f=29 has a ton of live commentaries from an IM who has a similar 5-minute rating to the OP.
I don't think there's much light to be stolen. I'll let people decide if my stream's worth it. I'm not the jealous nor easily offended kind. But I know I have things to offer.
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I'm taking suggestions as to when interested people could tune in. I mean hour distribution around the day.
It would be best if you posted the hours you could watch in CET or EST, but I have a strong feeling I will manage if you don't. 
It would also be nice to know how regular you would like it to be.
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hey man i am an fairly strong player as well (fm) .. yeah 2500 is pretty good in the 5min pool wouldn't be suprised if you a gm .... anyway .. the lag and also the fact of running other programs may also set off detection software for rngines (not sure but just a thought) usually programs that cause lag or make your processors strain the virtual memory set these things off i think, so that may be another issue .. althought i think over the course of several blitz games they would only have to analyze your play to see the errors that would occur in your games they would probably figure it out .. that your just running some other program .. or maybe you could just tell them you are streaming so there may be issues with any detection software..........
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I look forward to this if you can get permission to comment on your games. Frankly, I don't think I would watch much if it was only the stream as I probably wouldn't have the insight to learn much from a high level blitz game without your simultaneous guidance.
If you can do comments however, be it either during or after games, I would probably watch your stream quite a lot. Not going to make any promises, but I could see myself watching a stream like that for about an hour some days. I'll be most likely to watch during the evening 18-24 CET, but could be any time really as I'm a student an have a flexible schedule.
EDIT: Oh, and a specific request: Maybe play some Caro-Kann, please?
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Basically the same applies for me, I am really interested to see how you commentate your games. I also fully endorse the Caro-Kann request
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I would be interested if your discussion was in a similar vein to Day[9]. I think that people with limited SC knowledge still get some useful info from his casts. Since I know nothing about Chess (other than how to play it), if the cast is full of a lot of jargon, and things aren't explained in an easy way then I probably wouldn't listen. Unless a cast for high level chess can't be done in that way, then just ignore me.
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chessmaster wrote: the lag and also the fact of running other programs may also set off detection software for rngines
Nah it'll be fine. With cable there's gonna be no lag whatsoever. And detection software specifically detects engines only. And even then it's not as simple. There shouldn't be any problem with streaming.
Sidenote: I can comment on my blitz games, the only thing in question is about my correspondence games on another site. There I could show the move, but maybe I'm not allowed to give explanations - my question to the admins is pending.
About the Caro. It should be fine, sure. I would prefer to play against it with white. With black it can get kinda boring I would probably deviate with the g6-h5 or the early Nf6 taking double pawns sideline too much. I could show a few Panov games too as white for the kicks. Just not in a longer time control game. Ever.
I'll show you some nice lines I use with white, though. They are not completely sound, but I play them even in correspondence and it's quite fun. Especially because I 'invented' one of the lines as I forgot where to sac and I took the wrong pawn.
Maybe I could participate in a few open simuls it would give a long time to show my ideas.
As for the date. From 22-23 CET (16-17 EST) could be one and I could also play six hours later at times.
PS: Is there a way to hide your contacts' email address from MSN's chat windows? I would hate if I had to close it coz of privacy issues.
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Just out of curiosity, how can you be accused of cheating in chess? The only thing I can think of is if you were feeding the moves into some software that analyzed the best move.
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That's it. As part of the TOS ICC's softwares check out your running processes while you play and if they find you running engines and switching processes non-stop they'll just catch you.
And they also check match-ups with engine moves actively, etc. It's not that hard to catch the brainless version of cheaters who don't know crap about chess. Personally if I suspect someone I just flag them in 5-minute. If they really are brainless morons they don't know how to play even the simplest endgames for example and they just flag spending a helluva lot of time on a few moves.
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On January 09 2010 00:00 sixghost wrote: Just out of curiosity, how can you be accused of cheating in chess? The only thing I can think of is if you were feeding the moves into some software that analyzed the best move.
Either that or invite Anand over to sit with you as you play.
Ng5:
I did a quick search on google as I wan't able to hide my own contact adresses in dialogue windows. Unfortunately only answers I found were negative: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=24565. I understand this concerns you, but the many starcraft streamers on this site don't seem to have much in the ways of privacy settings as they stream, and given the forum and the semi-celeb status some of their contacts have, I would assume they would experience trouble before you do.
About the Kann. It was actually the black lines that would interest me, but of course you have to play openings that are entertaining to you as well. I'd like to see those variations you invented, though.
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On December 27 2009 22:12 jfazz wrote: Nakamura is a douchebag. Ive had a few arguments with him, due to us having the worked mutually with the same two players before (Larry Christiansen and Joel Benjamin). While Hikaru is much stronger than me, the way he treats non-masters in discussion is disgusting.
so famous players actually write on forums and talk smack? I'd be interested to see how genius chess players argue with each other. Would it be possible to see a thread? haha :D
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broz0rs wrote: so famous players actually write on forums and talk smack? I'd be interested to see how genius chess players argue with each other. Would it be possible to see a thread? haha :D
Naka and people like Radjabov can be quite assholes after games. Not just standard BM, like moving knights is a very useful skill toi have.
But ICC is also the first place where people don't just keep harassing me if I'm a smurf IM or GM or who I am in real life, what my rating is etc. A lot of GMs smurf. People like Chucky, who can be called anything but a pushover. I always crack up when I think about all the discussions going on about who I might be in real life. They just accept I play and some of them watch me at times. It's nice. Before ICC I don't think I told my real name to anyone save for one person on the internet.
On January 09 2010 01:00 hefty wrote: Ng5:
It's not really about harassing, it's the fact they are either my family, ex-family, hopeful future family, etc. 
On January 09 2010 01:00 hefty wrote: About the Kann. It was actually the black lines that would interest me, but of course you have to play openings that are entertaining to you as well. I'd like to see those variations you invented, though.
We can go over some lines out of games themselves. I mean I did play Caro a lot when I started playing. It was the opening I wanted to learn first, but it somehow never turned out to be the sheezy. (shizzle-mizzle-fizzle)
Even today when I randomly go back to my old openings (like the French with b6, the Philidor with g6 and so on) I can rarely get myself play a straight up Caro without going into the g6 lines as black.
I would really love to broaden my knowledge of the Slav and the Queen's Indian lately. I'm just too lazy and stuff like the King's Indian or QGA (Budapest, Albin, etc) are just effective enough in blitz that you just drive yourself into a certain laziness. Maybe I should take up 15 minute again and try there.
Edit: Two more posts and I could sign up for the TSL commentary contest.
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OP: cool stuff - you sound like a pretty mysterious character
Would definitely tune into this if I was online at the time, I'm in Taiwan right now so there's probably a time-zone difference (11pm right now).
Sort of an off-topic Q that doesn't need to be answered - what's your current occupation? Pretty sure you are over 30...or late 20s .-.
Oh yeah - I can't speak for the skill-level of all the viewers here, but it would be much appreciated if thinking processes were dumbed down (as we suc) - I think using move notation is fine but overall not that technical (somebody mentioned Day's casts, and I think something analogous to that would be awesome). Sometimes I see the king randomly hustling around in the midgame or a random pawn moving forward 1 square and would like to really know why it's "the strongest move" then (or at least a sound one).
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Yeah, i think I'd watch even though I'm worse than the people here who are "bad" at chess
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why are you guys undermining "ICC" and using it as an abreviation for chess when it's obviously for starcraft? It really confused me T_T
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if you want any assistance with the caro-kann or QID, id be happy to help you Ng5 
As for arging with Naka, its not that he is a bad guy, he just doesnt seem to respect anyone who isnt at his level. Which is ironic, because he talks too much smack for somebody that has an overly inflated rating via not playing sufficiently strong competition. For example, look at his results at the 2009 US championship vs 2009 London Chess Classic.
It will be very interesting to see how Mr. Big Mouth does in Corus Group A (starts jan.15 iirc) against the likes of Carlsen, Kramnik and Anand.
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On January 11 2010 01:27 TeH_Mentalist wrote: why are you guys undermining "ICC" and using it as an abreviation for chess when it's obviously for starcraft? It really confused me T_T Internet Chess Club
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Is the engine scanning the reason why gms prefer to play on ICC instead of some other chess server? Just wondering why it is popular despite not having free membership at all.
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On January 11 2010 02:53 cascades wrote: Is the engine scanning the reason why gms prefer to play on ICC instead of some other chess server? Just wondering why it is popular despite not having free membership at all.
I think like playchess.com, ICC too is free for every FM/IM/GM. I don't know about the security measures on ICC, but playchess.com is in a lot of ways like battle.net (or east): lots of lower ranked players, lots of BM, many cheaters. ICC on the other hand is the place to be if you are serious about practicing over the internet against a big pool of really strong players. A 25xx ranking on ICC is _a lot_ better than on freechess.com.
I can't wait for the stream btw, looking forward to see whether you vocalize the moves or make general comments about how to deal with certain positions - also, maybe 15 minute games would be better so you don't lose too much time while commentating.
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exalted wrote: Sort of an off-topic Q that doesn't need to be answered - what's your current occupation? Pretty sure you are over 30...or late 20s .-.
Haha. That late twenties or early thirties works just fine there. And I'm kind of in the scholastic sphere. It's not my dream job, but it's better than anything else would be so far. And you never know.
Athos wrote:Show nested quote +TeH_Mentalist wrote: why are you guys undermining "ICC" and using it as an abreviation for chess when it's obviously for starcraft? It really confused me T_T Internet Chess Club
Yes pretty much so. ICCup is like... ICCup everywhere I've seen it. It's just two letters more than ICC, which is not much. Internet Chess Club is just so long that we lazy people love to refer to it as ICC. 
cascades wrote: Is the engine scanning the reason why gms prefer to play on ICC instead of some other chess server? Just wondering why it is popular despite not having free membership at all.
No I don't think so. It's because ICC is professional. Not just a hobby or leisure site like many others. And it's friendly. It opened me up, which is no small feat. It has a lot of features that keeps you busy. But yes, the cheating detection does help improving it. I mean you play there IM, GM or just a standard noobie. You won't just get flamed. You play good, you get credit for it. And it matters. I think main the reason why a lot of real good players are avoiding hobby sites is the constant accusations. I don't mean better players care, because they don't. But look at it this way: if you like a community and it's a fun little place to be at but you can only play against weak players or cheaters, and if you win you still get flamed constantly, where players worse than you but far more vocal gets appraised over no limits for opinions on chess which not only untrue but so dumb it's not even funny - and on the other hand you have a community and site which is friendly and accepts you without trying to penetrate your private sphere, plus you can play even the best of the world if you can cope with it... I know which you would choose to play at.
On January 11 2010 03:08 Quint wrote: I think like playchess.com, ICC too is free for every FM/IM/GM. I don't know about the security measures on ICC, but playchess.com is in a lot of ways like battle.net (or east): lots of lower ranked players, lots of BM, many cheaters. ICC on the other hand is the place to be if you are serious about practicing over the internet against a big pool of really strong players. A 25xx ranking on ICC is _a lot_ better than on freechess.com.
I can't wait for the stream btw, looking forward to see whether you vocalize the moves or make general comments about how to deal with certain positions - also, maybe 15 minute games would be better so you don't lose too much time while commentating.
I don't think playchess would have many cheaters. I can't talk of personal experience yet, but it's the product of ChessBase. It would be a shame if they let cheaters run amok on their sites where Kasparov plays as well.
About the time loss we will see. I'm sure there'll be a lot of games when it won't be an issue even if I commentate real time. Of course if I played someone like Loeky I would probably be more silent throughout the game.
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Hm. Maybe I should try commentate on a few SC games when I'm not in the mood for chess as well. Who knows I might even turn up good for all I know.
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im confused.. you're going to be streaming yourself playing quick high level chess matches and commentate them.. so we watch and become good at chess? yea?
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lol.
I don't think you'll become good just by watching me, but yes. It's not like you watch Brood War to get good by watching either, I think. It's more of an entertainment/amusement factor.
So far everyone's keep telling me how I should rant and diss and BM while playing, which seems to underline the amusement part. 
A little offtopic. Is Chill really from Calgary?
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On January 11 2010 23:08 Ng5 wrote:lol. I don't think you'll become good just by watching me, but yes. It's not like you watch Brood War to get good by watching either, I think.  It's more of an entertainment/amusement factor. So far everyone's keep telling me how I should rant and diss and BM while playing, which seems to underline the amusement part.  A little offtopic. Is Chill really from Calgary? lol i dont want to be "good" i just want to be able to beat friends and family lol. like when i play chess.. i just make sure that when i move i wont lose any pieces that turn lol. and just try to notice if they make a slip up.. for me theres no strategy involved in chess lol. I want to learn a bit of strategy lol. nothing serious lol
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On January 11 2010 23:46 Mobius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2010 23:08 Ng5 wrote:lol. I don't think you'll become good just by watching me, but yes. It's not like you watch Brood War to get good by watching either, I think.  It's more of an entertainment/amusement factor. So far everyone's keep telling me how I should rant and diss and BM while playing, which seems to underline the amusement part.  A little offtopic. Is Chill really from Calgary? lol i dont want to be "good" i just want to be able to beat friends and family lol. like when i play chess.. i just make sure that when i move i wont lose any pieces that turn lol. and just try to notice if they make a slip up.. for me theres no strategy involved in chess lol. I want to learn a bit of strategy lol. nothing serious lol
If that is your level I am sure you will be able to learn something from a commentated high level game. Chess has a a lot of "basics" which will drastically improve your game once you begin to understand/implement them. On the other hand, expect to feel dumbfounded by alot of moves as well - I know I do. Chess is one of those games that are played at so many levels, and the gap between these are huge. I know enough to comfortably beat friends and relatives who just like to play on occasions, but I have a snowball's chance in hell when playing one of my friends who is a quite decent club player.
Key to enjoying chess is, much like starcraft, to accept that there's always many people who are a great many times better than you. But if you are able to appreciate working to improve your own game and enjoy the victories this gives you at your level, the game has something to offer you the rest of your life.
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I'm trying to get an IM for guest appearance on my first stream. Just to kick it off in style. We have a common longer time control game we both really appreciate and liked. It should be fun.
Plus I have a great game I had against a GM which I plan to go through in the first few streams. After I get a little established we could also run through some of your games, too - to make it a little more personal and all.
I'll also try to get a few people I know to play longer games, maybe a WIM or some other titled players I got to know along last year.
I don't know how it'll go in the long run, but I think for the first month it should be worthwhile. And I'm pretty sure people would have fun watching me. After all these years I have a few stories, as an icing. It should be fine. And if I run out of stories or get too repetitive we'll just think up something, won't we?
As you see I have some of plans and even though I've always felt that I don't know enough of chess to properly give lectures to anyone - somehow when I start talking about it I can talk a hole in the wall... 
I really hope the provider comes over today and I'll get the cable. After that I'm just gonna clean install my pc because I have too much crap on it and I'm good to go. Let's cross fingers.
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an idea would be a TeamLiquid tournament to win a chance to play you on stream
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I popped up the idea to play simultan. I'm not sure everyone knew what it was.
A simultan is when one player plays versus many at once. The giver is usually always white on all boards.
In real life practice the challengers are lined up and have enough time to think until the simul giver makes a round through them.
On ICC it's mostly just several long time control games played at once.
Since ICC has a trial period when we have enough interested players we could play it there, since you wouldn't need to pay for it.
Or I might get them to give free accounts for the time of one simul as long as it's not to often. That's a slight chance and couldn't be more often than say... every half year or so, but so far I found the admins very-very nice there and they are appreciating high rated players doing events.
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Finally.
My new provider is coming over today. I'll be able to sort out my PC in the afternoon so all should be set by thursday.
I have two questions till then.
First. Should I wait for ChessMax's (IM) reply and try launching the first ever cast with him as a guest, analysing our simultan game together or should I start off with something on my own asap?
Second. Do you know of any messenger programs that have an msn plug-in and that doesn't show email addresses. It only matters for one sole person in my contact list. 
Hell it's about time.
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On January 12 2010 11:53 hefty wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2010 23:46 Mobius wrote:On January 11 2010 23:08 Ng5 wrote:lol. I don't think you'll become good just by watching me, but yes. It's not like you watch Brood War to get good by watching either, I think.  It's more of an entertainment/amusement factor. So far everyone's keep telling me how I should rant and diss and BM while playing, which seems to underline the amusement part.  A little offtopic. Is Chill really from Calgary? lol i dont want to be "good" i just want to be able to beat friends and family lol. like when i play chess.. i just make sure that when i move i wont lose any pieces that turn lol. and just try to notice if they make a slip up.. for me theres no strategy involved in chess lol. I want to learn a bit of strategy lol. nothing serious lol If that is your level I am sure you will be able to learn something from a commentated high level game. Chess has a a lot of "basics" which will drastically improve your game once you begin to understand/implement them. On the other hand, expect to feel dumbfounded by alot of moves as well - I know I do. Chess is one of those games that are played at so many levels, and the gap between these are huge. I know enough to comfortably beat friends and relatives who just like to play on occasions, but I have a snowball's chance in hell when playing one of my friends who is a quite decent club player. Key to enjoying chess is, much like starcraft, to accept that there's always many people who are a great many times better than you. But if you are able to appreciate working to improve your own game and enjoy the victories this gives you at your level, the game has something to offer you the rest of your life. hehe sounds good. im really interested in learning basics of chess lol. probably more so than I should be.
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If you make a schedule of when this is happening that would be fantastic...
As for an IM that doesn't reveal the emails, you're out of luck there, I don't think any that I know of do that.
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i would prefer you to start early and cast some of your thoughts on you playing matches online, like what you're thinking as to why you do certain moves
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I gotta say I'm really looking forward to this. I'm pretty bad and don't play very often (correspondence chess on facebook and some occasional blitz games with my dad) but I'm sure this will be very educational and entertaining.
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Maybe I'll be able to pull off some BW-related jokes or puns, too. 
We'll see.
Edit: In my profile settings I see something like Show "Current Song" messages - but I see no option to set something like a Current Song. What's up with that?
Edit2: Oh I found it. Is anyone using at it all? I haven't seen it being used before.
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I would be very interested in this as well.
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schedule is fine, i'll tune in for sure!
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I am super glad i found this thread. I have recently been looking to get back into chess. When i played before i went to nationals 4 times and almost reached 2000 rating. This seems like it will be really awesome. I got 20th in blitz at nationals in Kansas City many years ago and enjoy blitz thoroughly.
Anyways what is the link to the live stream? or where do we go to access it.
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he said he would start streaming thrusday, i guess he will update OP with link by then
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right but his most recent post made it seem like he will stream today maybe? i just got really excited
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I'm trying to get Procaster to work right now. Stay tuned.
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sweet i cant wait. It has seemed so far that you avoided giving out any information about your live chess games/rating. Just curious where your from at least, or what level you would be considered live.
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Anyway.
It seems to work. Haven't tried with sound yet. And I need to fuss about with resolution.
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Ok i want to see u stream some chess gaming, since im pretty good at chess, see if u got some skills.
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I just came back from a tournament (rp: around 2000, not that great but a good confidence boost), so I'd be very interested inw atching this and improving my game. Put me down as another person on EST time.
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Broadcasting Dasher on my resolution seems smooth with 640*480 resolution as output.
Runs around 300 kbit/sec tops with 200 being average. I don't know how voice is gonna work out because I cannot get it to play music from applications so I guess the most I'm gonna have is from microphone. I hoped it would be a little different because when I'm streaming at night I would rather not be too loud.
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Okay stream is LiquidBela.
Without sound it's smooth and 640*480 is just perfect for my board size. I'll run the first stream with some voice test sometimes between 8-12 CET / 2-6 EST. No promises here, I will post here a little before starting.
I also want to try it with a couple games to see that option in Procaster for myself.
I will most likely update the original post and bump here. I may even get added to the stream list by then, so check those forums in case my thread gets moved.
Edit: From midnight there's a scheduled simultan. I know it's not as flashy as going up against a titled player 1-on-1, but it would give time to explain thoughts. I would also give a simul, but to be perfectly honest I would probably not be able to comment much around the start until a few games are over so it might get boring for you.
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Looking forward to the stream!
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Very excited for this. I'm a chess noobie (like 1300 in yahoo chess at my peak lol).
Speaking of which, can anyone recommend me a youtube vid maker for chess tutorials? is jrobichess good for learning opening theory and such?
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this is really awesome. please keep doing this and look into adding an on-demand section :D
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I'm off now, but really enjoyed what I saw of the stream Please keep doing it hehe
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stream just died for me and i'll be going to sleep, this was very nice and you were very kind and patient with all my noob questions, hoping to log on next day
thanks again!
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infinity21 wrote: this is really awesome. please keep doing this and look into adding an on-demand section :D
As of now I'm gonna put the first stream right into auto-play and on-demand as well. Later the full streams will only be on on-demand and if I ever keep auto-play it will contain some cut-offs, like single games or whole simultans, etc.
Phrogs! wrote:I'm off now, but really enjoyed what I saw of the stream  Please keep doing it hehe
Thanks, that's the plan. 
St3MoR wrote: stream just died for me and i'll be going to sleep, this was very nice and you were very kind and patient with all my noob questions, hoping to log on next day
thanks again!
Haha. You're welcome, it was no hassle at all - that's what I made the stream for after all.
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Well, the first stream happened last day with about four hours of chess and a little more than an hour of me ranting about random things. 
Thank you for everyone who tuned in - I was actually quite surprised. I thought there would be like 5-6 people, 8 at tops, but after revealing the start date there were 9 people on chat waiting. We had around 14-16 people staying all length, and at the peak it was 24 - which was more than twice of what I could have hoped for. 
I hope you all enjoyed it. I am going to keep the original post updated with schedules - since out of schedule it won't always be chess. I'll try to keep you informed about what you can expect when I'm on. (Btw the OP is getting updated right at the time I'm posting this.)
In the previous message I talked about the on-demand and auto-play plans.
There was a minor misunderstanding I didn't realize in the first two games. The rating system on ICC is different for 15-minute and 5-minute games. Like SC 2v2 and 1v1 ratings being different on ICCup. Since it was my first 15-minute games my rating started off from the provisional 1500 value.
I usually addressed the questions from chat without stating doing so, which is fine live - but maybe it'll be a little weird from on demand as Procaster's chat window doesn't show on stream even if I pull it into the broadcast bracket, so you might not have a clue about why I switched subjects at certain points of the cast. If it becomes a nuisance I'll try to take care about it in the future.
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I was in class for the start, but I caught the last few hours and I enjoyed what I saw.
I'm surprised that those viewer numbers were higher than you anticipated. If you posted this on a few chess forums or advertised on FICS and ICC, you could get hundreds of viewers, couldn't you?
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Go Shirov! He is one of my favorite players besides Tal. Nakamura is good, but a little high strung and pretentious (I know him personally).
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Well I'm not really out for big viewer numbers. To be honest I wanted to do this exclusively for TL. Maybe I'm growing old and sentimental or something. 
I think there was only one guy outside of TL and there was someone who knew me both from ICC and TL.
But yes I'm mainly doing this for fun. At first I just wanted to share my monitor view on skype with a friend, but then I thought I might as well ask here since I heard you played consul(t)ation games and since I've been lurking around for about two years now.
Edit: Yeah Shirov is pretty sharp and solid when he's on. And even when he's not he tends to score just fine. I think one of the pivotal moments might be what Kram thinks before his match with him (Shirov), if Kram wants to win at that time he will give him a good run for his money I think, but if he thinks 2nd-3rd is the best he can get he won't pressure that much, maybe. Though I think Vlad is testing the waters with his refound approach.
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Ok watching, this is gonna be fun  hope u will stream often, i will definitely watch.
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My stream got verified and embed into TL. Yay. 
For tonight I can't promise anything. I'm pretty drained so I might just hit the hay early, but in that case I'll wake at the right time for the EST zone people. Also because I'm drained it will probably not be chess even if I stream tonight.
WoW with a friend, some old game like Baldur's Gate or Final Fantasy's older episodes. Whatever we'll see.
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AAARGH!
Stupid Procaster didn't save my first ever broadcast. :/
Only the one or so hour after it crashed and I logged back.
Okay now I feel robbed.
Compared to those four hours the last one is just bullshit. :/
Anyways. I don't have enough data to put on autopilot and get my stream verified yet. I'm kind of sad because of the f3-Kf2 victory, too. Nevermind.
Saturday-sunday I will just stream some random stuff if anything.
When it's about chess or SC I'm gonna update the OP and bump the thread with a new message.
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arg... I keep checking this to see if you're streaming but I've missed it so far...
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Well. First of all thanks for everyone for tuning in so far.
From tomorrow my room is going to get re-painted and as such I'm moving to a smaller room for the week. My pc most likely will not fit there and my laptop doesn't handle ProCaster well for some reason, so it's likely that the closest date I can broadcast again is the 31st of january.
If I can squeeze in my PC or get over the problem with my laptop I will let you know, if not I'll just think up something bigger for next sunday. 
Thanks again, everyone for the interest and see you on 31st!
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On January 23 2010 22:32 Ng5 wrote: AAARGH!
Stupid Procaster didn't save my first ever broadcast. :/ Sorry to hear this. There were some cool games (and analysis afterward) there. Oh well. Just have to do it all again!
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Glad you got verified. I'd be very interested in watching this even though I am quite bad at chess.
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I wanted to get together a chess stream for tonight, but it won't happen now. I've been to inactive in the mafia threads it's time to post some there as well.
Since I'm pretty much stuffed in a small room with all the house being full of noise for a week I don't think I'll play too much chess, or have too much time for work. I might play more till friday so here's a poll I wanted to make anyway.
Poll in original post.
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Cool, kept seing references about this, gonna watch now
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Thanks for tuning in. I'll play games in a few for the rest of the night as I'm pretty tired from the packing. But I'm gonna re-start streaming chess on a more regular basis.
Until I can solve the microphone issue I'll find a way to show my music while playing.
Cheers!
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VOD material updated.
Autoplay plays all my chess so far - at least what's left of it due to crashes in ProCaster.
VOD section has the chess and WoW streams I ran. The ones LiveStream hasn't mucked up - since it just deleted some of my best content due to some lame interface handling.
Re-applied for verification, let's hope for the best.
I won't be casting before TSL now, but after TSL there's a good chance for some chess.
Edit: I can't seem to check out my own stream somehow. I hope it works.
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Bump.
OP.
And prepare questions for tonight if you have any, there'll be voice.
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Probably gonna be watching tonight
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Interesting stuff, thanks
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Awesome stuff, thanks for posting.
I never got too good at Chess myself, but it seems to be the other post-SC activity here on TL (other than poker).
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seiken densetsu is the greatest SNES game ever... gawd I beat that game with every single character. so fun.. and story is so good
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Livestream Free Channel Verification Application Approved
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Bump. Schedule in original post.
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New poll in OP, please vote if you like the stream.
Tonight I'm also gonna update the autoplay and vod sections.
If you have any suggestions for the stream, please do post here or in PM.
I'm generally near a computer due to the nature of my work, I just don't have more time than a quick post or read.
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Keep it with just you and just chess. Unless you play on 2400+ arena teams then stream wow too 
Excited to see your streaming again
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Pawsom wrote:Keep it with just you and just chess. Unless you play on 2400+ arena teams then stream wow too  Excited to see your streaming again
Hee-hee.
My WoW (EU) has just run out and - according to later events this week - I'll probably switch over to the US servers.
If all goes to plan I won't have enough time for WoW to reach level 80 anytime soon after a fresh start from ground zero, let alone reach an even adequate arena rating. 
By the time I hit Icecrown again I bet the maximum level will be raised to 85 already.
PS: If all goes to plan I will start out on WoW (US) on friday.
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Bump.
New schedule. If you can help me with the WoW problem please PM me. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Right now I tried the WoWInstall file which should download the required files, but as soon as it downloads the downloader it redirects me right to my already existing EU installation so I can't really install WoW US at all.
I'm in the EU, so waiting for a retail box for maybe two weeks is kind of out of question and the digital version is only available with the original game and not the expansions. It would also suck to wait two weeks for the retail just to find out that I still can't have dual installations of WoW.
I wrote the technical support, but they may take weeks to reply again.
Cheers! 
BTW: In the BattleGroup I would be in there's not even 2400+ teams more than... Two?
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I'm hyper.
New poll.
Vote or die. <3
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Stay tuned, starting in a few minutes.
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For those who likes Chess, Ng5 is really talented.
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I don't know for talented, but he is goddamn motivated now.
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hi for everyone i'd love to see chess streamed on icc cuz i play there too, and i know there r a lot of good players and a high level of chess i've seen ur videos and they r so interesting... i'd like to see u streaming more times a weeks or whenever u go to play chess, please stream it, and that way we can learn so much more i'll be thankfull thxz anyways
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Stream is going on soon. What you see now is the autopilot, so chill.
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Alright. Live now. I'm not commentating for a while just waiting for people to gather so be a little patient.
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Hey thanks for the stream. One thing I would have liked to see is more dialogue about what you were thinking and what was informing your move choice etc.
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Sorry last time wasn't really informative. I was relaying to someone who kept messaging me on msn half of the time. In general I'm more fun to listen to.
My stream also died halfway without procaster telling me so. I was talking to the walls for around an hour or so after she went offline.
Plus I also felt that commentating and creative play just didn't happen at the same time then. Maybe I was just disorganized. I was kind of nervous.
I plan to push out analysis for after the game later or do some kind of stuff like Day's dailies. I still need to figure things out.
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Sorry someone asked how good my rating was and I didn't answer properly.
Over 2500 is generally enough to keep you in the top 40 of the currently active players in 5-minute chess. I've been chilling between 20 and 30 in the past days.
I was just pissed at myself at the time you asked because I felt and still feel like I didn't/don't play good enough these days. And it's not about losing, because frankly speaking I don't care about losses. I just feel like I'm not playing sharp enough even in my won games.
Like there's 2-3 out of 20-30 every night I like.
Anyway. I can't really relate to ICCup's olympic or A ratings, because I don't know how good that would be. I've never played SC only watched it.
Staying over 2500 is good I would say, but I've been better before and I feel my current games are not inspired enough, and that makes me grumpy.
Still thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy the stream even without the commentary. 
Okay I've given up on my edits. My english suckzors - deal with it.
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You must come play bughouse with us on FICS and stream it. I'm pnaxighn there if you need a partner.
--oberon
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You should really check this guy out if you haven't yet. Fun to watch, even though I basically know nothing about chess. The games are short and exciting.
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On March 14 2010 11:52 Ng5 wrote: Sorry someone asked how good my rating was and I didn't answer properly.
Over 2500 is generally enough to keep you in the top 40 of the currently active players in 5-minute chess. I've been chilling between 20 and 30 in the past days.
On March 14 2010 11:52 Ng5 wrote: Anyway. I can't really relate to ICCup's olympic or A ratings, because I don't know how good that would be. I've never played SC only watched it.
A+ easily.
Hoping to catch you streaming again; I've missed the last few
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Should I play Dos Hermanas?
12 round swiss, 3 0 time control, best blitzers in the world.
Adding a poll.
Added to OP.
Of course analysis after the games or maybe later Day Daily style.
Edit3: Oh and 2000 euro for the one who beats Nakamura, Kamsky, Shipov, etcetcetc.
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Gogo make us proud
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On March 17 2010 11:32 Ng5 wrote:Alright. I signed up for the first qualifier in the evening. Got disconnected, mouse slipped and lost in a way that made me go BM for the first time.  I ragequitted after the sixth round - which is unusual from me, trust me.  Second qualifier I went 9/12. One mouse slip, losing like an ass twice. Not getting through to the knockout stages (two more qualifiers on the go). What's more important though. I just beat Gata Kamsky. Since I've been asked who the hell he is. With Nakamura he's one of the top two players of the US - Naka is superior in blitz, I would say Kamsky is superior in long time control tournament play still (debatable). Gave up chess for a decade and came right back with a considerably stable 2700+ FIDE. World champion candidate twice. He's invited to pretty much most of the top grandmaster events in the whole world. Analysis to come when I start seeing from the pinkish clouds. So is it enough to make you proud? 
what...what... what's your rating??
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Read his above posts ._.! And great job on beating Kamsky :O. Be sure to update us on how you do in the remaining qualifiers.
By the way unrelated: what brought you to TL if you haven't ever played starcraft o.O?
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9 more minutes.
I'll tell about the SC part after.
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Haha. Alright I went 7/12 and 8/12 so did not get anywhere. 
I played pretty bad today, but around the end I got into the right mindset again and I started producing some nice games. It's been years since I last played 3 0, so I would call it a decent result.
I'll try getting a good date together for broadcasting the Kamsky game analysis. I will also post the VOD of it - so if you miss it it's no biggie, but you won't be able to ask questions then.
I'm off to bed, it's almost morning. Peace, peeps.
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On March 18 2010 12:24 Ng5 wrote: I would call it a decent result. Good enough for me! Looking forward to the broadcast.
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Holy shit, you beat Gata Kamsky, who once was pretender for the title of world champion!!!!!! Game or never happened! 
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On March 19 2010 07:27 One Page Memory wrote:Holy shit, you beat Gata Kamsky, who once was pretender for the title of world champion!!!!!! Game or never happened! 
Agreed. I would love to see the game
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Tomorrow. That's saturday, right? 
I guess sometimes between 6-10 pm CET / 1-5 pm EST.
Bless daylight savings time.
I'll upload the vod somewhere after so you can watch if you get late. As I stated before though - you won't be able to ask questions live that way, only here.
Peace peeps.
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Very nice on beating a top contender, be sure to bump this when you start!
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Sorry. Have to postpone this. Something family related happened. I hope next week but can't say anything sure at the moment.
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Bump.
Schedule updated. Should be okay this time. 
Oh by the way.
5-minute (only players with at least 8 played games in the past two weeks are listed)
Rank Rating #1 2793 NoWay #2 2740 Vidocq #3 2701 Sarevok
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I will be watching.. this looks so great! They must have some serious anti-cheats on the internet chess tournaments though 
For me it will be more exciting to hear your analysis that watching alot of blitz games - I don't think I would be able to follow much of the thought process. But maybe the rest of TL is a lot better than me in chess.
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Elroi wrote:I will be watching.. this looks so great! They must have some serious anti-cheats on the internet chess tournaments though 
Cheat detection on ICC is pretty slick in general - without being overdone. They catch the cheats, they do it fast, but they don't jump before the gun.
Especially with Dos Hermanas - which is like the TSL of online chess. Heavy cheat detection, they warn you to call them immediately when you find someone suspicious. Nothing is done in the public, so there's not many trash talking. (I've only been accused three times during more than a year.)
There's also two things that make it close to perfect. One in general - ICC reserves the right to exclude you from any and every tournament (especially the prize-giving ones) upon sole suspicion that you are getting outside (engine, friend, whatever) assistance. Which is pretty good in my opinion. And seriously, they are not too strict there either.
The other thing is solely for big gun events like this one, or the one where you can qualify to a bigger tournament through online qualifiers. When you register you have to give your real name and location you are going to play from. At any time during the tournament ICC can ask to send a proctor to oversee you playing. If you are unable or do not want to accept them, or you live so far in nowhereland they exclude you from the tournament. If I qualified for the knockout stages I'm pretty sure that's what would have happened to me, too. Though I live in a little off, but they could send people from three countries as I live close to the borders.
On the other hand though - I would have played Naka in a 3 minute best of four, so they might have not bothered with sending a proctor on that one.
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Bump.
Going online in about an hour. Stay tuned.
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Going online at 22:30 CET / 16:30 EST.
Just in ten minutes. Stay tuned and enjoy.
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The Kamsky game stream turned out to be so bad that I lost my will to live after making it. That's the reason why I didn't post it in the VOD section. Problem is - most 3 0 games are just too short to have anything fancy. I made three losing mistakes that he didn't capitalize on and then he made two I did capitalize on, but nothing really really spectacular happened, regretfully.
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Last night's stream was actually nice once it got rolling. Sorry, but 15-minute games are just too long for me I just want to break the all time high record in it and it's the only reason why I play. I think it got cool once I started playing 5s. 
Anyway around the end I shown a few lines with white in the Caro-Kann - I know someone asked about it previously.
Next week I think I will talk some more about the opening in general and show you why I don't like to play it with black - or rather why there's only one line in particular I ever play as black.
If there's anything else you'd like me to talk about please ask here or in a PM and we'll see what I can do.
I feel full of energy again - so I'll probably stop slacking and start working - which means I'll be more tired in the evenings and maybe stream WoW or Seiken Densetsu 3 since I already started it. I'm kinda eye-ing FF8, too which is one of my favs of the franchise. (Mechanically, I don't really like Riona so parts of the romance stuff is just ew for me.) I'm also trying to round up a few people for in-house SC. I could try ICCup, but if so be prepared for some unsound gameplans with awful mechanics and bad execution. 
Enough already. Thanks for watching people. 
Heaven-ice-day.
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Bmump. Recently got a bit interested in chess, for the first time since I was like 10? I used to be very good (relatively, I guess) and quit playing because no one could come close to beating me around here, because what is the internet? Anyways I just signed up at chess.com, and played a pretty interesting game. Here's the link: http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=19501065# . Short summary: I don't know any chess theory, and just winged some sort of opening. It was pretty terribly sloppy and I ended up at a disadvantage. + Show Spoiler +I managed to pull something interesting, and at 19. Bb2, I knew I had the game unless he sacrificed his queen. If he had opted to sac his queen, he would still be at a material advantage and I would have lost for sure, but I didn't think it would be likely that a newbie(assumption) would even think about trading a queen for a rook.
I'd like help on analysis... What would you have done differently if you were white? If you were black? I'm really into competitive games so I'll probably get hooked, and would like to suck less. Man do I have a lot of questions, I'll save them for later though...
Edit: Oh wow, analyzed it further. I got really, really lucky hah. I missed so many things, that should have lost me the game. I definately have much to learn, mainly just not playing hastily. I also got chess.com's program to analyze it, and it was scarily accurate...
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Sorry for the inactivity. I'll get back to you guys and reply soon.
Right now the stream is going on in a few seconds after this post. My voice sucks today so I'll be silent, but if you want feel free to ask questions on the stream I'll try typing it up or showing on a set-up board after the particular game. If not just enjoy the games!
Probably a few 15-minutes or a couple 5-minute if I get too bored.
After that I might play a little wow or some random games before heading off to bed.
Cheers!
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Please stream more XD. I like watching your all-in aggression in 5 minute games. I'd love to play you the next time you get on.
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Sorry I've been slacking again but other stuff (mostly slacking) came in the way.
On the other hand I have good news guys. I'm getting a beta key from my cousin (as in this moment) and even though I'm not a big rts fan (I always liked to watch more than play) I will try it.
The threads about everyone cheesing 24/7 will probably make it more tempting for me. I probably won't play much and I don't know for streaming - even streaming WoW takes it's toll on my cpu lately, nothing big I just don't like to make the fan too noisy.
But if any of you have a key and would like a game or two we can definitely try it sometimes. And if turns more regular than one game per week I will probably try streaming it too. Do note that my time is very limited these days though.
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Alright peeps. I'm downloading the beta now while checking out gear for my soon-to-be twink in WoW. I haven't yet decided to go human or night-elf, though elves are a little cliché to me.
When done I'll just try it out. I don't know a thing about units, build orders, upgrades, let alone buildings. If you still want to play a few games please just pm me. I'll most likely just take some random funny name that comes to my mind.
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I've been doing some random casts again - but I cannot promise fixed times anymore.
My next two months is gonna be busy, so just check if the stream is on. I'll try to bump the thread when I'm active - and I'll probably just forget doing so.
After two months hopefully I'm moving to the other end of nowhere and I will take a longer break from casting. My laptop isn't on speaking terms with procaster, so it will have to wait till I buy a tabletop PC at my new place as well.
Edit: Gosh this is starting to look like a personal blog. I thought I would kill myself the day I started one...
Edit: New poll in OP. I voted yes.
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Haha, I actually really enjoy watching you play chess. Keep it up, even if the last page looks borderline schizophrenic.
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I'm giving a simultan on ICC at 1 pm EST, 7 pm CET.
I'll try to relay it, but there's no promises as it's a little harder than the usual games and I won't have much time so even if I do it'll only be with music and not commentary.
If you have an ICC account you could still watch, though.
Will try to also play some in the next few days but I'm kinda busy with TOEFL and GRE.
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Nice... hopefully you're able to relay that... I love watching your play
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By the way a simultan is when I play twenty different people in twenty different games at once.
Relaying with commentary would be hard because by the time I explain everything in all games I would just flag (run out of time) in half of them.
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Haven't had time to watch in a while, but looking forward to doing so a bit more over the next month. Good luck with the TOEFL/GREs/applications!
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I don't really know anything about chess, but what's with all the time wins? Some of the games you're in the negatives but on some of them it gives you an auto-loss if you're below 0. Does the other player have to take the win? Cuz that seems kinda BM; what's the point of playing in a simul if you're just going to take a time win? Doesn't seem hard to win on time if you just make your moves as fast as possible.
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It's a community event. Meaning it's only supposed to be given by titled or on-site remarkably strong players. Anyone who wins gets kind of an honour badge to their name. I used to have some with my previous account too.
This is the only random such event. Random in the sense of someone else gives it every week and you can only give it once every eight weeks. There are other such 'honour-badge' events, but they are all scheduled, given by masters.
The trick is - they don't get a badge if they win on time. For this they can turn off 'auto-flag' so the interface doesn't call the game automatically. Some of them didn't even know about that feature I'm sure.
Then there were others who didn't claim the win until they found out they have no chance of winning.
It really is my bad that I couldn't move faster, but I like to keep it oldstyle (see below) and I don't like simultans where the giver just plays some boring opening safe and wins with experience. If I'm giving a simul I want them to remember it and make it very exciting for everyone. The time limit here was 30 minutes + 30 seconds/each move against 20 person. I generally use 30+60 or 45+45 for around 12-15 people - and last two times I think I won them all. Maybe I had a draw second to last time before this simul. I don't really blame them for calling the flag for whatever reasons, but they don't get anything out of it either. I knew I was gonna flag in many games and I don't really like this time control, but noone else was signed up and I got a free month of subscription which came handy. Out of all the players only one deserved a win really - and he messed up and came off with a draw in the end.
As for the 'old-style'. Usually in real life it people set up boards in a sequence sitting next to each other and the master goes through the sequence one by one. When they arrive to you you make your move when they see it and they have to reply - usually within a few seconds of thinking time. Sometimes they let you ask for another circle if you need more thinking time. Now I like to play it that way. If you listened carefully I always pushed the 'manage windows' or whatever option when I moved in all games, because then I just had to ctrl-tab my way through all the games one-by-one as if I was giving a real life simultan. Obviously it makes time management harder. With the other interface you only see one table and it always jumps to the game where you have the least time in, but I'm a moody person and sometimes I like to keep to traditions - even though I'm not much for rules.
If they implemented it to be similar to real life situations I would even love to give simuls to 70-100 people. It would take a whole afternoon, but it's a hell lot of fun.
Because of all these busy months my sub might gonna run dry after all. I might even switch account names and be Liquid-Squirrel or something. If that doesn't piss off TL staff and Liquid team members ofc.
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I haven't had the chance to watch your stream yet but thanks for the info. 'Old-style' was the only form on simul that I knew about. I guess it's probably because I've never really gotten into chess on the internet and just real-life tournaments.
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We could organize a big TL-wide simultan in one way or another given interest.
Maybe even on a private forum section and a different thread with the separate games where I just go through the threads one-by-one making the moves as if it was a real life simul.
Could be fun, but it would need people to learn the annotations. Not a big thing, but could be new to some.
I would also be happy to give some post-game analysis on some of the games.
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By the way. Anyone from Chicago?
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TOEFL and GRE is over so I'll probably be streaming more again.
I can't promise chess 24/7 - it'll probably be a mix of WoW, Dragon Age, random flash games and music too. Before I start toeing the queue at the consulate anyway.
If there's any chess related thing you'd like to hear of please PM or post it here. I didn't forget the game previously posted here either - I just had not had the time for a longer while.
The times will probably be worse for the people in The States as I tend to sleep at more healthy hours these days.
And yes, last time I broke the 50 watcher numbers by going slightly over 60 - thanks everyone. It seems my viewer base is growing (not so) slowly.
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Tomorrow I'll try streaming something around midnight CET, 6 pm EST.
I would like to comment on a game one of my friends made. The game isn't all that imbalanced, but I could explain quite some about plan-making in general.
I also added a new poll as I might need to lay dormant for a while later this summer. Since my ICC subscription will run out that period I'll have the opportunity to create a new user name.
Peace and see you tomorrow.
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Need to wait for my friend to actually appear. I'm ready so whenever he logs in I'm starting.
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My friend never shown. I'll kick him tomorrow but I can promise to do it. I'm going to a wedding on saturday and better sleep early.
If I happen to have time it'll be at earlier hours but I'll try and put it on vod.
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It's been a while since I last streamed. I've been on a vacation with my family and I couldn't get my stream to work. I can't log in somehow. :/ Sadly as I had a lot of things prepared. PlaytheMaster from ICC, analysis of some games of a friend of mine, opening discussion - those seem to have to wait.
I have good and bad news. I'm moving to Chicago in a month for my brand new job - but that's the same good news that's gonna keep me from streaming for another while. I have a lot to do before I go - visa, visiting family members, etc etc blah-blah. And after I arrive I'll probably have to wait till I get settled and buy a desktop pc - my laptop doesn't like ProCaster for some reason.
When I'm back I'm also going to either renew Sarevok or switch IDs (I like Liquid-Squirrel the most, too by the way) - and another good news - my chess stream is getting featured here on TL! 
When I return I also plan to start blogging - though I'm still alien to the idea so it might take a while to get used to (never really liked blogs to be honest). At the same time I also plan to open up new threads with chess tidbits. It can be anything - ranging from random stories and tidbits of information to serious analysis and discussion. I really grew fond of you guys and I want to give back something from all the love and cheering I've received - it far surpassed my original expectations and I can only repeat myself with I really want to give back and post more often on random topics as well in the future.
Also I plan to start up another user name and stream - something like Ng5-Gaming. Under that user name I could keep streaming random games while not being featured. With my new job and the new place I'll probably be dead tired by evenings for a longer while (tired enough to play) and I'll probably refrain from going out much after dark until I'm not fully used to my new circumstances (giving me chance to stream from home).
I will start playing SC2 every once in a while. I won't be a good player, and I probably will not play a lot - but what the heck, this is a StarCraft site after all. Some of the other games include trying LoL and maybe giving HoN/DotA a go as well. Playing some of the old games I haven't played for ages and just random stuff I feel like. Yes there's probably going to be some WoW, too. It will be one of the only 'community/leisure time' things I can keep in touch through with some of my european friends.
I've been talking long enough - if you have anything else you'd like to see for when I'm back (chess or otherwise) please feel free to post here or message me - I'll try to check regulary (and probably will at least before my move around the 18th).
Thanks again and take care everyone!
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Good to hear how you're doing. Loved your stream
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Congrats on the job! Looking forward to the stream when it's back (and featured, which is great 'cause I missed it too many times).
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you are absolutely amazing. I love listening to you keep streaming more pleaseplease plesase!!!!!
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Brilliant
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That game against A-Zinoviev was pretty bad ass. He probably didn't see the threat of bishop and queen at all? I mean, what was he hoping for, attacking down there.
Your stream is quite eye opening. I used to play chess when I was very young and I still know some of the basics, but I never read much theory. The way you talk about things reminds me what I liked about chess. Good stuff!
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Had a lot of fun watching you. Keep streaming!
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awesome stream today, AGAIN PLZ!
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I loved your stream ng5.I didn't take you seriously at first until I started seeing your games. VERY high level caliber player, psuedo subscribed!
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You need to spam more to keep your APM high. When I play computer chess I average at least 90 APM, it's how you can tell I'm the best.
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I haven't played chess seriously for over 10 years, but I absolutely love your stream.
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Tuned in for a couple hours today. I really liked seeing your stream and it made me want to pick up chess again. I only played a bit when I was much younger. Is there a really good website I can check out to learn some solid openings, preferably in video format?
Keep streaming! Also add some of your streams for on demand if you don't mind.
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I felt so bad last night when I was passing out because it was late, because I was watching your stream. Makes me want to play more chess.
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Have an appointment close to when the league is starting today so I'll be late. I'll try to log in later still, can't promise for 100%.
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Restarting the stream and the pc sec.
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Won't really have the chance and time to play.
Been pretty busy for weeks now and I can't see it changing before the end of the semester.
See you all in 2011 the soonest I guess. Maybe with some random gaming too.
Take care, my nerds.
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To the hell with it. Going online. Keep your panties on.
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Ok. Chess night boycotted thanks to procaster.
Sorry guys I had a lot of rants lined up for you.
Peace.
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Just found this thread will be tuning in!
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2500 on ICC? Wow, thats awesome. The best person i ever played against was 2100 and i got crushed.
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let me ask u a question, r u still streaming chess?? i'd like to know at what time u r.. thxz in advance
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Ur so awesome Ng5
more chess!
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Excellent stream, thanks a lot Ng5.
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Is it too much to ask to get this stream back? I really enjoyed it :D
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