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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
October 25 2009 07:48 GMT
#261
I should mention, I have no issue with either Nf6...e4 or 0-0; we still have lots of good options
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
October 25 2009 08:04 GMT
#262
6...Bxc3+

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i like to exploit any opportunity to create doubled pawns
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
October 25 2009 11:47 GMT
#263
c7-c5
aka Teutonica
iloveambiguity
Profile Joined August 2009
United States81 Posts
October 25 2009 19:22 GMT
#264
I vote Ne4. To create double pawn on c file without giving a bishop for a night is the ideal! if qb3, we can try Bxc3, b,xc3 and d5 with a solid grasp of the light center squares, we can from here try c5 sometime, the other knight can develop to c6 after c5, or even nd7 to nf6. we can also castle witch is noncommittal but i like Ne4 here!
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
October 25 2009 20:19 GMT
#265
O-O castle
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ixuz
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Sweden38 Posts
October 25 2009 20:23 GMT
#266
O-O castle!
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Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-25 21:04:19
October 25 2009 20:31 GMT
#267
I like 0-0 too, not really fuzzed about Ne4

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I'd like to see something along the lines of 6. ... 0-0 7. 0-0 c5
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
October 25 2009 20:38 GMT
#268
how come Bxc3+ is getting no love, i think it's a much better move
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
BeSt1g
Profile Joined December 2008
7 Posts
October 25 2009 20:47 GMT
#269
Bxc3+ is too early we should force him to play a3 before we just waste a move, doubled pawns are ok but 2 bishops can be powerful, 0-0 is the right move. Also how are we sure he's not gonna use a computer engine or something!! or us for that matter.
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 25 2009 20:55 GMT
#270
On October 26 2009 05:38 benjammin wrote:
how come Bxc3+ is getting no love, i think it's a much better move

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For the simple reason that if you think a few more moves forward, we will not have as good a time to castle as now. We're not up against a scrub here. Take the time, put the pieces on a chess board and play out a few different continuations and you'll see that this is the moment with which castling leaves us with the most flexibility yet allows very little in the way of tactics on his side. If he doesn't castle in reply now, but instead defends the c3 pawn, he'll be severely limiting his future options. If we take now, we're already committing some of our flexibility, something that may be the right thing in over the board situations, but not when we have a while to think it through. This is the time where more in-depth analysis starts to shine.
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-25 21:42:57
October 25 2009 21:21 GMT
#271
On October 26 2009 05:47 BeSt1g wrote:
Bxc3+ is too early we should force him to play a3 before we just waste a move, doubled pawns are ok but 2 bishops can be powerful, 0-0 is the right move. Also how are we sure he's not gonna use a computer engine or something!! or us for that matter.


it's kind of an honour system. I would hope no one uses an engine or it ruins the entire purpose of the whole thing

also

On October 26 2009 05:55 Kazius wrote:
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On October 26 2009 05:38 benjammin wrote:
how come Bxc3+ is getting no love, i think it's a much better move

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For the simple reason that if you think a few more moves forward, we will not have as good a time to castle as now. We're not up against a scrub here. Take the time, put the pieces on a chess board and play out a few different continuations and you'll see that this is the moment with which castling leaves us with the most flexibility yet allows very little in the way of tactics on his side. If he doesn't castle in reply now, but instead defends the c3 pawn, he'll be severely limiting his future options. If we take now, we're already committing some of our flexibility, something that may be the right thing in over the board situations, but not when we have a while to think it through. This is the time where more in-depth analysis starts to shine.



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i disagree entirely, we don't have to castle right now, and taking on c3 will give us the same positional equality as if we do castle immediately, though both are fine and it's more a matter of taste, but something like this will get us to castle all the same.

6...Bxc3+ 7.bxc3 d6 8.0-0 Nbd7 9.Rb1 0-0



So then ill vote for 6... Bb4-Bxc3+
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Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 25 2009 21:42 GMT
#272
On October 26 2009 06:21 Divinek wrote:
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On October 26 2009 05:47 BeSt1g wrote:
Bxc3+ is too early we should force him to play a3 before we just waste a move, doubled pawns are ok but 2 bishops can be powerful, 0-0 is the right move. Also how are we sure he's not gonna use a computer engine or something!! or us for that matter.


it's kind of an honour system. I would hope no one uses an engine or it ruins the entire purpose of the whole thing

I've not yet opened a book as well, since I'm pretty sure that there is an in depth analysis on this set-up in literature.... and I haven't bought an engine yet. Going way off-topic, would using an engine to analyze my games improve my play?
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 25 2009 21:43 GMT
#273
On October 26 2009 06:42 Kazius wrote:
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On October 26 2009 06:21 Divinek wrote:
On October 26 2009 05:47 BeSt1g wrote:
Bxc3+ is too early we should force him to play a3 before we just waste a move, doubled pawns are ok but 2 bishops can be powerful, 0-0 is the right move. Also how are we sure he's not gonna use a computer engine or something!! or us for that matter.


it's kind of an honour system. I would hope no one uses an engine or it ruins the entire purpose of the whole thing

I've not yet opened a book as well, since I'm pretty sure that there is an in depth analysis on this set-up in literature.... and I haven't bought an engine yet. Going way off-topic, would using an engine to analyze my games improve my play?


if you do it right it most certainly would
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Chunkybuddha
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada347 Posts
October 25 2009 22:07 GMT
#274
bxc3 any other move would set us back.
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
October 25 2009 23:34 GMT
#275
On October 26 2009 07:07 Chunkybuddha wrote:
bxc3 any other move would set us back.
completely wrong but whatever.
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
October 25 2009 23:44 GMT
#276
And yeah, computer analysis will really help your game. I use it heavily to verify my endgame play, but also to check my analysis for attacking/defensive variations in the middlegame. You would be sometimes surprised what hidden resources the computer can unearth in a position. Even if they just get you thinking of new ideas, it will improve your overall approach to the game.
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-26 00:01:32
October 25 2009 23:55 GMT
#277
On October 26 2009 07:07 Chunkybuddha wrote:
bxc3 any other move would set us back.

Just no

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Why would you release the tension this early in a position? Also, double pawns on the C file are actually strengthening his position.

Anyways, my vote is to castle here.

0-0
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-26 00:18:07
October 25 2009 23:56 GMT
#278
Bb4-Bcx3+
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
October 26 2009 00:19 GMT
#279
I vote O-O

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Don't really like the idea of developing a piece just to exchange it in the next move.
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
October 26 2009 00:36 GMT
#280
just for everyone's information, the current poll sits at:
6...d5; 1 vote
6...Ne4; 3 votes
6...Bxc3+?; 5 votes
6...0-0; 6 votes
6...c5; 2 votes

please, dont let 6...Bxc3+? win. That it has so many votes says a lot about the quality of players on the black side.
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