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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-19 04:56:28
February 19 2010 04:37 GMT
#1621
lebron for the win!

......NO

lebron is NOT clutch lol

yeah looked like he was gonna cry hahaha
he had really sick stats though O_o
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 19 2010 07:14 GMT
#1622
he ALWAYS has raelly sick stats who cares o-o!
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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
February 19 2010 07:46 GMT
#1623
On February 19 2010 16:14 Xeris wrote:
he ALWAYS has raelly sick stats who cares o-o!


yeah seriously lol it's more surprising when he doesn't have sick stats than when he does -_-

and celtics.... DEFINITELY not the championship team they were two years ago. Barely won by 1 point facing a lakers team w/o kobe
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
February 19 2010 07:59 GMT
#1624
i think you underestimate how good the lakers are even w/o kobe...
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13294 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-19 13:39:18
February 19 2010 13:37 GMT
#1625
The Lakers are still a really good team without Kobe.

I think they'd still easily make top 8 in the West. Maybe not #1 but top 4 is def within a Kobeless Lakers.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 19 2010 13:49 GMT
#1626
hmmm can't agree with top 4. I think Dallas, Utah (their current incarnation anyway), Denver and Portland(healthy) make top 4 above them.

Do I also get to arguably include San Antonio also?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 19 2010 15:03 GMT
#1627
On February 19 2010 22:49 Ace wrote:
hmmm can't agree with top 4. I think Dallas, Utah (their current incarnation anyway), Denver and Portland(healthy) make top 4 above them.

Do I also get to arguably include San Antonio also?


I don't know, they have defensive problems for sure with both Fisher and Brown out there (Fisher chasing Allen last night was just hilarious). Offensively though they seem like the 2k Lakers with Bynum and Gasol stepping up.

I'd say they're better than SA for sure (too old), Utah (they beat them already without Kobe recently and soundly too), and Portland (they're aren't healthy).

They're definitely top 4 with only Denver really causing issues.
Get it by your hands...
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 19 2010 18:25 GMT
#1628
i dont know - this laker team (without kobe) cant win ANY close games ... that wont get them top 4
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
February 19 2010 19:39 GMT
#1629
On February 20 2010 03:25 Xeris wrote:
i dont know - this laker team (without kobe) cant win ANY close games ... that wont get them top 4


They had a semi-close game against the Warriors and won that game (yeah, it was against the Warriors, but still), and have only had one true close game so far (last night vs BOS). I think it's a bit early to say that the Kobe-less Lakers squad can't win any close games with such a small sample size.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 19 2010 19:54 GMT
#1630
who is going to close out for them? O_O;;
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-19 20:11:29
February 19 2010 20:11 GMT
#1631
On February 20 2010 04:54 Xeris wrote:
who is going to close out for them? O_O;;


I mean going back to the 2k Lakers, the people who hit big shots for them varies time from time, it wasn't just Kobe.

Plus Jackson can probably just look into Luke Walton's eyes and drop Zen on him, then Walton will hit a big shot.
Get it by your hands...
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 19 2010 20:35 GMT
#1632
On February 20 2010 05:11 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 04:54 Xeris wrote:
who is going to close out for them? O_O;;


I mean going back to the 2k Lakers, the people who hit big shots for them varies time from time, it wasn't just Kobe.

Plus Jackson can probably just look into Luke Walton's eyes and drop Zen on him, then Walton will hit a big shot.


Walton is injured again. Back in 2k Kobe had the ball in his hands at the end of most every game, and they also had Shaq in his prime and Robert Horry who was really clutch. These Lakers have a soft Gasol, Bynum isn't a crunch time player, and there is no Robert Horry to save the day.
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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 01:40:46
February 20 2010 01:40 GMT
#1633
On February 20 2010 05:35 Xeris wrote:
Walton is injured again. Back in 2k Kobe had the ball in his hands at the end of most every game, and they also had Shaq in his prime and Robert Horry who was really clutch. These Lakers have a soft Gasol, Bynum isn't a crunch time player, and there is no Robert Horry to save the day.

gasol is not soft
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 03:19:17
February 20 2010 03:16 GMT
#1634
On February 20 2010 05:35 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 05:11 Judicator wrote:
On February 20 2010 04:54 Xeris wrote:
who is going to close out for them? O_O;;


I mean going back to the 2k Lakers, the people who hit big shots for them varies time from time, it wasn't just Kobe.

Plus Jackson can probably just look into Luke Walton's eyes and drop Zen on him, then Walton will hit a big shot.


Walton is injured again. Back in 2k Kobe had the ball in his hands at the end of most every game, and they also had Shaq in his prime and Robert Horry who was really clutch. These Lakers have a soft Gasol, Bynum isn't a crunch time player, and there is no Robert Horry to save the day.


I know about Walton, just making a comment about Jackson.
Who stepped up last year against the Magic? Fisher. Farmar stepped into his shoes pretty well for one game against the Rockets.
Gasol dominated in overtime for one critical game.
Ariza had a few clutch defensive sets.

Random people step up for them in the playoffs, Kobe isn't the sole person.

Also, Jamison 0-12....blocked 5 times and airballed 2 shots....rofl.

And Collison is flirting with a quadruple double....with turnovers, Kemp would be proud.
Get it by your hands...
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
February 20 2010 03:53 GMT
#1635
gasol for sure is not soft.. like in the finals between lakers and orlando. he manhandled howard
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city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
February 20 2010 04:27 GMT
#1636
On February 20 2010 12:53 imweakless wrote:
gasol for sure is not soft.. like in the finals between lakers and orlando. he manhandled howard

What the hell? Howard had 15 pts/15 reb/4 blk/2 stl per game in the finals. Gasol was something like 18/9/2/1. He managed to hold his own, but any all-nba player should be able to do that. To insinuate that he "manhandled" Howard is just stupid.
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
February 20 2010 07:43 GMT
#1637
either way pau still looks like an ostrich
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
February 20 2010 08:18 GMT
#1638
On February 20 2010 13:27 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 12:53 imweakless wrote:
gasol for sure is not soft.. like in the finals between lakers and orlando. he manhandled howard

What the hell? Howard had 15 pts/15 reb/4 blk/2 stl per game in the finals. Gasol was something like 18/9/2/1. He managed to hold his own, but any all-nba player should be able to do that. To insinuate that he "manhandled" Howard is just stupid.


Dwight Howard got reduced to a taller Ben Wallace in the finals. FG% and turnovers matter...

Game 1: 1 for 6, 10-16 ft, 2 turnovers. So 12 points in 16 possessions?
Game 2: 5 for 10, 7-9 ft, 7 turnovers. 17 points in 21ish possessions?
Game 3: 5 for 6, 11-16 ft, 1 turnover. 21 points in 15 possessions (guess which game orlando won, by the way)
Game 4: 5 for 12, 6-14 ft, 7 turnovers. 16 points in 26 possessions.
Game 5: 5 for 9, 1-3 ft, 3 turnovers. 11 points in 13 possessions.

Meanwhile Pau had 5 turnovers the whole series, never shot under .500,
Game 1: 7-12, 2-2, 2 turnovers.
Game 2: 7-14, 10-11, 0 turnovers
Game 3: 9-11, 5-6, 1 turnover
Game 4: 7-14, 2-4, 1 turnover
Game 5: 6-9, 2-4, 1 turnover

I won't say it was Pau Gasol, but Dwight got manhandled games 2 and 4, and game 1 was pretty bad too. Definitely not what I expected.
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
February 20 2010 08:22 GMT
#1639
On February 20 2010 17:18 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 13:27 city42 wrote:
On February 20 2010 12:53 imweakless wrote:
gasol for sure is not soft.. like in the finals between lakers and orlando. he manhandled howard

What the hell? Howard had 15 pts/15 reb/4 blk/2 stl per game in the finals. Gasol was something like 18/9/2/1. He managed to hold his own, but any all-nba player should be able to do that. To insinuate that he "manhandled" Howard is just stupid.


Dwight Howard got reduced to a taller Ben Wallace in the finals. FG% and turnovers matter...

Game 1: 1 for 6, 10-16 ft, 2 turnovers. So 12 points in 16 possessions?
Game 2: 5 for 10, 7-9 ft, 7 turnovers. 17 points in 21ish possessions?
Game 3: 5 for 6, 11-16 ft, 1 turnover. 21 points in 15 possessions (guess which game orlando won, by the way)
Game 4: 5 for 12, 6-14 ft, 7 turnovers. 16 points in 26 possessions.
Game 5: 5 for 9, 1-3 ft, 3 turnovers. 11 points in 13 possessions.

Meanwhile Pau had 5 turnovers the whole series, never shot under .500,
Game 1: 7-12, 2-2, 2 turnovers.
Game 2: 7-14, 10-11, 0 turnovers
Game 3: 9-11, 5-6, 1 turnover
Game 4: 7-14, 2-4, 1 turnover
Game 5: 6-9, 2-4, 1 turnover

I won't say it was Pau Gasol, but Dwight got manhandled games 2 and 4, and game 1 was pretty bad too. Definitely not what I expected.


You get two foul shots when you are hacked... so idk where these possessions numbers are coming from. Either way, the stats never tell the actual story in how valuable a player was to his team (hustle stats are lost, making a pass that leads to another pass (no ast), altered shots, drawing fouls, etc etc.)
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
February 20 2010 08:25 GMT
#1640
and the turnover stats are pretty undeniable
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