EPT......NO
lebron is NOT clutch lol
yeah looked like he was gonna cry hahaha
he had really sick stats though O_o
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
......NO lebron is NOT clutch lol yeah looked like he was gonna cry hahaha he had really sick stats though O_o | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
On February 19 2010 16:14 Xeris wrote: he ALWAYS has raelly sick stats who cares o-o! yeah seriously lol it's more surprising when he doesn't have sick stats than when he does -_- and celtics.... DEFINITELY not the championship team they were two years ago. Barely won by 1 point facing a lakers team w/o kobe | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13526 Posts
I think they'd still easily make top 8 in the West. Maybe not #1 but top 4 is def within a Kobeless Lakers. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Do I also get to arguably include San Antonio also?  | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 19 2010 22:49 Ace wrote: hmmm can't agree with top 4. I think Dallas, Utah (their current incarnation anyway), Denver and Portland(healthy) make top 4 above them. Do I also get to arguably include San Antonio also? I don't know, they have defensive problems for sure with both Fisher and Brown out there (Fisher chasing Allen last night was just hilarious). Offensively though they seem like the 2k Lakers with Bynum and Gasol stepping up. I'd say they're better than SA for sure (too old), Utah (they beat them already without Kobe recently and soundly too), and Portland (they're aren't healthy). They're definitely top 4 with only Denver really causing issues. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On February 20 2010 03:25 Xeris wrote: i dont know - this laker team (without kobe) cant win ANY close games ... that wont get them top 4 They had a semi-close game against the Warriors and won that game (yeah, it was against the Warriors, but still), and have only had one true close game so far (last night vs BOS). I think it's a bit early to say that the Kobe-less Lakers squad can't win any close games with such a small sample size. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 20 2010 04:54 Xeris wrote: who is going to close out for them? O_O;; I mean going back to the 2k Lakers, the people who hit big shots for them varies time from time, it wasn't just Kobe. Plus Jackson can probably just look into Luke Walton's eyes and drop Zen on him, then Walton will hit a big shot. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On February 20 2010 05:11 Judicator wrote: I mean going back to the 2k Lakers, the people who hit big shots for them varies time from time, it wasn't just Kobe. Plus Jackson can probably just look into Luke Walton's eyes and drop Zen on him, then Walton will hit a big shot. Walton is injured again. Back in 2k Kobe had the ball in his hands at the end of most every game, and they also had Shaq in his prime and Robert Horry who was really clutch. These Lakers have a soft Gasol, Bynum isn't a crunch time player, and there is no Robert Horry to save the day. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
On February 20 2010 05:35 Xeris wrote: Walton is injured again. Back in 2k Kobe had the ball in his hands at the end of most every game, and they also had Shaq in his prime and Robert Horry who was really clutch. These Lakers have a soft Gasol, Bynum isn't a crunch time player, and there is no Robert Horry to save the day. gasol is not soft | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 20 2010 05:35 Xeris wrote: Walton is injured again. Back in 2k Kobe had the ball in his hands at the end of most every game, and they also had Shaq in his prime and Robert Horry who was really clutch. These Lakers have a soft Gasol, Bynum isn't a crunch time player, and there is no Robert Horry to save the day. I know about Walton, just making a comment about Jackson. Who stepped up last year against the Magic? Fisher. Farmar stepped into his shoes pretty well for one game against the Rockets. Gasol dominated in overtime for one critical game. Ariza had a few clutch defensive sets. Random people step up for them in the playoffs, Kobe isn't the sole person. Also, Jamison 0-12....blocked 5 times and airballed 2 shots....rofl. And Collison is flirting with a quadruple double....with turnovers, Kemp would be proud. | ||
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imweakless
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city42
1656 Posts
On February 20 2010 12:53 imweakless wrote: gasol for sure is not soft.. like in the finals between lakers and orlando. he manhandled howard What the hell? Howard had 15 pts/15 reb/4 blk/2 stl per game in the finals. Gasol was something like 18/9/2/1. He managed to hold his own, but any all-nba player should be able to do that. To insinuate that he "manhandled" Howard is just stupid. | ||
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bdams19
United States1316 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On February 20 2010 13:27 city42 wrote: What the hell? Howard had 15 pts/15 reb/4 blk/2 stl per game in the finals. Gasol was something like 18/9/2/1. He managed to hold his own, but any all-nba player should be able to do that. To insinuate that he "manhandled" Howard is just stupid. Dwight Howard got reduced to a taller Ben Wallace in the finals. FG% and turnovers matter... Game 1: 1 for 6, 10-16 ft, 2 turnovers. So 12 points in 16 possessions? Game 2: 5 for 10, 7-9 ft, 7 turnovers. 17 points in 21ish possessions? Game 3: 5 for 6, 11-16 ft, 1 turnover. 21 points in 15 possessions (guess which game orlando won, by the way) Game 4: 5 for 12, 6-14 ft, 7 turnovers. 16 points in 26 possessions. Game 5: 5 for 9, 1-3 ft, 3 turnovers. 11 points in 13 possessions. Meanwhile Pau had 5 turnovers the whole series, never shot under .500, Game 1: 7-12, 2-2, 2 turnovers. Game 2: 7-14, 10-11, 0 turnovers Game 3: 9-11, 5-6, 1 turnover Game 4: 7-14, 2-4, 1 turnover Game 5: 6-9, 2-4, 1 turnover I won't say it was Pau Gasol, but Dwight got manhandled games 2 and 4, and game 1 was pretty bad too. Definitely not what I expected. | ||
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bdams19
United States1316 Posts
On February 20 2010 17:18 igotmyown wrote: Dwight Howard got reduced to a taller Ben Wallace in the finals. FG% and turnovers matter... Game 1: 1 for 6, 10-16 ft, 2 turnovers. So 12 points in 16 possessions? Game 2: 5 for 10, 7-9 ft, 7 turnovers. 17 points in 21ish possessions? Game 3: 5 for 6, 11-16 ft, 1 turnover. 21 points in 15 possessions (guess which game orlando won, by the way) Game 4: 5 for 12, 6-14 ft, 7 turnovers. 16 points in 26 possessions. Game 5: 5 for 9, 1-3 ft, 3 turnovers. 11 points in 13 possessions. Meanwhile Pau had 5 turnovers the whole series, never shot under .500, Game 1: 7-12, 2-2, 2 turnovers. Game 2: 7-14, 10-11, 0 turnovers Game 3: 9-11, 5-6, 1 turnover Game 4: 7-14, 2-4, 1 turnover Game 5: 6-9, 2-4, 1 turnover I won't say it was Pau Gasol, but Dwight got manhandled games 2 and 4, and game 1 was pretty bad too. Definitely not what I expected. You get two foul shots when you are hacked... so idk where these possessions numbers are coming from. Either way, the stats never tell the actual story in how valuable a player was to his team (hustle stats are lost, making a pass that leads to another pass (no ast), altered shots, drawing fouls, etc etc.) | ||
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bdams19
United States1316 Posts
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