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TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
February 18 2010 07:38 GMT
#1601
awful for the rockets
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
February 18 2010 07:57 GMT
#1602
wow...how does trading landry make any sense?!
though the rockets now have a go to guy on offense...

on the king's side of things, how's tmac gonna gel with evans? i'd hate to see evans take a back seat (seeming as how tmac still thinks he can play at a high level). it's very unlikely though.

landry brings in consistency from the bench which is always a plus.
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
February 18 2010 07:59 GMT
#1603
Just to play devil's advocate landry's contract is up in a year and the Rockets wouldn't have been able to keep him at the 8-10MM he gets on the market...
Riding a bike is overrated.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 18 2010 08:10 GMT
#1604
I think the Rockets are looking at next year. Yao/Martin/Ariza is a pretty good core with Scola and Brooks. On paper that's actually a really good starting lineup.

Of course losing Carl Landry is a major blow :/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 18 2010 08:41 GMT
#1605
it is... O_O!~

at first (i didnt see the news on ESPN first) when I saw Kmart I was like "WTF DENVER JUST GOT TMAC FOR KENYON MARTIN" ... that woulda been crazy... then I realized which Kmart you guys were talking about.

I'm kinda skeptical about the trade to be honest. I really <3 Landry, I think he's a keeper.
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Ducci
Profile Joined April 2009
United States588 Posts
February 18 2010 09:27 GMT
#1606
I feel its a great trade for the Kings. After watching a few kings games it is clear that martin/evans couldn't play together very successfully. So getting landry + tmac for martin is a great trade. They can go ahead and trade tmac to NY for draft picks
ChezGod
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States590 Posts
February 18 2010 09:52 GMT
#1607
Really depends how well Martin can play. We know he's capable of great things (50+ points, ~25/game scoring average), but he is very fragile and prone to injury, and can go on bad shooting slumps.

We'll see I guess.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
February 18 2010 10:01 GMT
#1608
Kevin Martin isn't Kmart, jeez. It sounded like a terrible trade until I found out it was Kevin Martin.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
February 18 2010 14:40 GMT
#1609
kevin martin is more deserving of that nickname
kenyon martin is just trash
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
February 18 2010 18:27 GMT
#1610
the final deal: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4924836

rockets get kevin martin, jordan hill, jared jeffries
knicks get tmac and sergio rodriguez
kings get landry, dorsey, and larry hughes
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 18 2010 18:41 GMT
#1611
On February 18 2010 23:40 KOFgokuon wrote:
kevin martin is more deserving of that nickname
kenyon martin is just trash

What? What don't you like about 10/10 with great defense?

I know Kevin Martin looks fine on paper, but I still don't think there's anything special about him. 20ppg as the #1 option on a terrible team, shooting under 40%? He's injured, but he's not exactly an iron man and he's never been a great shooter. And has he learned to play defense yet? That's not going to go over well in Houston if he hasn't.

Kings got a great deal.
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Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
February 18 2010 19:07 GMT
#1612
On February 19 2010 03:27 TheMusiC wrote:
the final deal: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4924836

rockets get kevin martin, jordan hill, jared jeffries
knicks get tmac and sergio rodriguez
kings get landry, dorsey, and larry hughes


Houston also gets the right to swap first round picks in 2011 as well as the Knick's 2012 first round pick outright. I'm liking this deal more and more.
Riding a bike is overrated.
Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
February 18 2010 19:33 GMT
#1613
Hilarious article from a Knicks fansite:

+ Show Spoiler +

Let’s just be clear in what just happened here.

The Knicks gave up:

Jared Jeffries, a versatile defender that’s actually played really well this year.

Jordan Hill, who has developed really well, has killer upside, and is a legit scoring big, which they’re going to need once Harrington and Lee are gone in six months.

The expiring corpse of Larry Hughes

Their control for their first round pick in 2011 NOT to be swapped to a perennial playoff team that just acquired cap space and Kevin Martin.

Their 2012 first round pick, meaning they could not be picking in the top 15 for the next 3 YEARS.

And in return, they got:

An over-30 forward who has had injury problems every year for the past five years, and his expiring contract which will end up saving them a grand total of $9 million dollars.

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

Seriously? This just happened?

What on EARTH are they going to offer LeBron/Wade/Bosh/Amar’e this summer? “Hey, come on by! You get to play with Sergio Rodriguez! Eddie House is in the corner, smokin’ a pipe! Chill out! Galinari’s going to make his famous pesto chicken!”

THIS is the master plan? To leverage any hope of the future to try and buy your way out of purgatory? This isn’t Mario Bros. You can’t just skip a level, I don’t care how much money you have or what market you play in.

This is an abject disaster.

The Kings’ side of this gets better and better. They just cleared out enough space to build a new kitchen downstairs AND remodel Chrissy’s room with that walk-in closet she’s always wanted. They managed to hold on to Kenny Thomas (woof), so they save that money and pick up Hughes’ expiring as well. And they get Carl Landry, who’s going to annihilated people on the pick and roll with Evans. Having Hughes around for six months is a shame, but what else is new? And he wasn’t playing badly in New York for the first few months.

Daryl Morey runs the game. That’s it. I’m having T-shirts printed that say “Daryl Morey Runs The Game.” He just spun the guy who he told to go hang out in Chicago instead of playing for Jordan Hill, Kevin Martin and two first round pick advantages. This is sick. This is a disgusting trade for the Rockets. They get Hill to develop like they did Landry, they get Kevin Martin to pair with Brooks and Ariza, they get youth in the future and they still have Yao Ming and saved money. Seriously. I’m pretty sure Morey is an alien with advanced technology. This is absurd.
Okay, I’m going to go lie down and try and figure all this out.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN TYRUS THOMAS IS A BOBCAT?!

/passes out


http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/18/trade-deadline-where-donnie-walsh-being-possessed-by-isiah-thomas-happens/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Riding a bike is overrated.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
February 18 2010 19:57 GMT
#1614
On February 19 2010 03:41 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2010 23:40 KOFgokuon wrote:
kevin martin is more deserving of that nickname
kenyon martin is just trash

What? What don't you like about 10/10 with great defense?

I know Kevin Martin looks fine on paper, but I still don't think there's anything special about him. 20ppg as the #1 option on a terrible team, shooting under 40%? He's injured, but he's not exactly an iron man and he's never been a great shooter. And has he learned to play defense yet? That's not going to go over well in Houston if he hasn't.

Kings got a great deal.


The upside is that he might be as good as any other shooting guard in the east beside kobe and brandon roy, at < $10 million a year. Daryl Morey's statistical 8 ball has earned him leeway in his predictions, and evidently he thinks Kevin Martin will average out to his career averages (.449, .386, .850) rather than his season (22 games, .398, .355, .819).

Aaron brooks is shooting .423 career .414 season so it's an improvement. It looks like Landry is an expiring contract, so I guess Morey thinks he'll resign way higher than $3 million. Morey might be BIlly Beaning the 2010 6th man of the year.


And nicknames have nothing to do with deserving, Kenyon Martin established himself with the Nets, and everyone called him K-Mart. If Lebron decided he wanted to be called Mamba, he can't just take it just because he's more deserving.
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
February 18 2010 20:19 GMT
#1615
hardwoodparoxysm isn't a knicks fansite, it's just a general nba blog ;p

there's a lot of good stuff on there though
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 22:35:55
February 18 2010 22:35 GMT
#1616
Jordan Hill is god awful. He has no future in the nba and I don't even know how he got drafted in the first round (god damn it knicks).

If you have ever seen him in an actual game, you'd know he looks completely lost with no basketball sense at all. Against the bulls last night I don't think I saw him actually run once.
Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
February 18 2010 22:42 GMT
#1617
On February 19 2010 05:19 TheMusiC wrote:
hardwoodparoxysm isn't a knicks fansite, it's just a general nba blog ;p

there's a lot of good stuff on there though


Oh, I just assumed because of the content
Riding a bike is overrated.
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
February 18 2010 22:42 GMT
#1618
On February 19 2010 04:57 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2010 03:41 Jibba wrote:
On February 18 2010 23:40 KOFgokuon wrote:
kevin martin is more deserving of that nickname
kenyon martin is just trash

What? What don't you like about 10/10 with great defense?

I know Kevin Martin looks fine on paper, but I still don't think there's anything special about him. 20ppg as the #1 option on a terrible team, shooting under 40%? He's injured, but he's not exactly an iron man and he's never been a great shooter. And has he learned to play defense yet? That's not going to go over well in Houston if he hasn't.

Kings got a great deal.

]

And nicknames have nothing to do with deserving, Kenyon Martin established himself with the Nets, and everyone called him K-Mart. If Lebron decided he wanted to be called Mamba, he can't just take it just because he's more deserving.


Kevin Martin is nothing special in the nba... sure all you fantasy bball guys know he's a great scorer with very good %s, esp from the line. But for that amount of money he sure comes with a ton of injury risk and is not that good of a defender.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-19 03:54:26
February 19 2010 03:42 GMT
#1619
Amazing game tonight. Shaq's FT shooting technique looks worse than ever, but he has been a game changing force all night, even when he's not putting points up. You can really see why getting him was a good move.

The Nuggets' game changed completely on both ends when he got in the game in the first half.

Does anyone else think it's unfair that James is the best PG and SF in the league?

Did Lebron look like he was about to cry to anyone else? O:
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Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
February 19 2010 04:07 GMT
#1620
i love ma nuggets
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