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We have created an irc channel (#tl-smash on Quakenet) for people to find others to play with on Dolphin or just to chat about Smash. Feel free to join!
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 05:24:45
March 02 2015 05:23 GMT
#2321
targer just FF and practice it a lot, best and fastest way to ledgedash consistently imo

suiciding a lot is completely normal while practicing it. Honestly suiciding a lot is completely normal for practicing like 30% of melee tech lol

e: ok 30% probably an exaggeration but like 95% of tech that involves anything close to a ledge
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 02 2015 06:12 GMT
#2322
On March 02 2015 02:28 Headshot wrote:
I went to my first tournament yesterday and I did alright, but for some reason I was flubbing a bunch of shorthops and I felt like I was playing horribly. Johns aside, has this affected anyone else going to a tournament for the first time? Ugh, I'm just not satisfied how I played at all. Time to train hard for next Saturday's big tournament.

At my first tournament my opponent asked for a hand warmer and i didn't get a single wavedash the entire time we were warming up. I felt like I couldn't even dash dance.

Just first tournament jitters. Tech skill is almost never as good in tournament as it is on your own setup with your friends but it'll get closer the more you play in tournaments :D
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 02 2015 08:13 GMT
#2323
my first tournament game ever was against Fly Amanita

I only got 4 stocked because of tournament jitters. Definitely just tournament jitters. Killed his nana the second game, clearly I was getting warmed up :p

But seriously they're totally normal. Got them when I played my first SC2 tournament, first melee tournament, really first competitive anything.
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 02 2015 09:35 GMT
#2324
Even though I've been going to tournaments for a while, I think my decision making / movement / tech all suffer in tournament matches :/ Of course, playing against players better than you also makes you feel like you're moving sluggishly, haha.

(This all happened to me today though I guess I played ok; at least I made it out of pools, heh... plus we beat Myko/Tang in doubles!! and Tang is the best player in the world!!)
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 10:05:58
March 02 2015 09:43 GMT
#2325
The only problem I still consistently have is that I'll get jitters in my first match or two vs someone I don't know. But with that knowledge I can just get in some friendlies in with strangers before my matches and I'm usually fine lol. Idk why the stranger part is what gets me because when I play I fiend games in BW/SC2/Dota but whatever.

I get the feeling of tech skill suffering in a tournament setting but I normally chalk that up to me remembering my mistakes in tournaments a lot more than in casual play. No idea if that's accurate though.

e: also congrats beating Tang is pretty cool :D
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 02 2015 10:13 GMT
#2326
oh also I don't get nervous at all playing 64 lol. I'm significantly better at 64 than Melee which I'm sure plays a part in it, but Melee gives me relatively unique jitters when playing new people and I have no idea why O_O
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TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
March 02 2015 14:32 GMT
#2327
Bi-weekly on Saturday had 30 people in attendance with several big names (Bones, Widl, Metal Peeper, Lawnchair) even though there was a national not far away. That's really awesome. Also bought a soundboard to have dual commentary for the next event on March 14th!

As for my own gameplay at the tournament, I am not pleased with how I performed. I have been focusing so much on run cancel down tilting that it sort of took over my gameplay and I noticed that it took away from my dash dance and my fairs so I guess I need to mix those back in. I feel like I'm so close to hitting the next level of skill but getting the correct balance of all of this is really difficult T.T
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 17:43:00
March 02 2015 17:37 GMT
#2328
On March 02 2015 14:16 Headshot wrote:
Yeah, I had to ply against Darkrain in the second round and he 4-stocked me twice. ^^

At least you didn't play Hax.

I took two stocks off him a while back, get ecstatic, then on game 2 it's as if his brain said "DOWNLOAD COMPLETE" and 4 stocked me easily. Funny as shit, cuz he was clearly not trying, but the pressure was TOO real. I do wish I coulda played him now since I feel like I'd learn much more.

Also got fifth at an 18 man tourney yesterday, best I ever did! :D Not even one year of playing yet.

I'm slowly getting adjusted to tournament settings. Not nervous/anxious as much, tech skill being a lot more consistent when it matters, and most importantly THE ABILITY TO ADAPT.

Watching my opponent in both friendlies/tourneys have helped me so so much. By not playing like an auto pilot FalcoBot5000 has been awesome - to actively think and execute inputs in fast situations and mixing it up helped tons.
iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
March 03 2015 04:51 GMT
#2329
On March 02 2015 02:28 Headshot wrote:
I went to my first tournament yesterday and I did alright, but for some reason I was flubbing a bunch of shorthops and I felt like I was playing horribly. Johns aside, has this affected anyone else going to a tournament for the first time? Ugh, I'm just not satisfied how I played at all. Time to train hard for next Saturday's big tournament.

In one of my first tournaments I was nervous to the point of my hands sweating and shaking, which didn't end well as a beginner Fox trying to learn tech skill.

After going to many more tournaments I'm still less clearheaded in tournament compared to friendlies, but it's far, far better now. Tournament sets are really fun to me now. Repeated experience helps a ton. Framing nervousness as excitement (PPMD mentioned this in his AMA) also seemed to improve my tournament mindset (i.e. I try to have fun while playing my best and focus less on evaluating myself based on what happens during the game).
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
737 Posts
March 03 2015 18:44 GMT
#2330
^agreed. I find that I play best in a tournament when I'm not thinking about outside factors. Who the fuck cares if I'm about to win or lose and may get knocked out? Or possibly advance through the next bracket? Just focus on what's going on in game, at the very moment and enjoy it...!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 02:51:13
March 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#2331
I finally got shine->back air down on fox! I know there are faster things in the game, but it wasn't a year ago that I couldn't short hop consistently on fox haha.

8 Months left until I get to rejoin society and see if any amount of technical improvement will prevent me from getting stomped. I somewhat doubt it
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 05 2015 18:55 GMT
#2332
For some reason, when I explicitly try to short hop in a practice setting I full jump half the time, but in game when I'm just playing casually I basically always get the jump distance I'm looking for. My thumb just gets shaky or something when I put too much focus into it.

And then it's the opposite for wavedashing. In practice, I get 80-90% of my wavedashes, but in game it's close to like 20-30%, ugh...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 06 2015 01:17 GMT
#2333
On March 06 2015 03:55 Grobyc wrote:
For some reason, when I explicitly try to short hop in a practice setting I full jump half the time, but in game when I'm just playing casually I basically always get the jump distance I'm looking for. My thumb just gets shaky or something when I put too much focus into it.

And then it's the opposite for wavedashing. In practice, I get 80-90% of my wavedashes, but in game it's close to like 20-30%, ugh...

More practice!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 08 2015 00:23 GMT
#2334
So, someone wants to make more gifs of Leffen throwing his controller in utter rage this weekend? :D

Apparently he also broke a window, not on stream though... That guy is disgusting.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 08 2015 02:43 GMT
#2335
On March 08 2015 09:23 Zoler wrote:
So, someone wants to make more gifs of Leffen throwing his controller in utter rage this weekend? :D

Apparently he also broke a window, not on stream though... That guy is disgusting.

Jeez Leffen... Didn't hear about that
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 08 2015 05:05 GMT
#2336
On March 08 2015 09:23 Zoler wrote:
So, someone wants to make more gifs of Leffen throwing his controller in utter rage this weekend? :D

Apparently he also broke a window, not on stream though... That guy is disgusting.

Didn't you say he was your friend?
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 08 2015 05:50 GMT
#2337
any of you guys in NYC?

friend of mine was at weeklies today and took his first tournament match ^^. also got wrekt by jsex lol

hope to make it back to NYC in not too long, Zenith was super fun last year
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jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
March 08 2015 10:46 GMT
#2338
On March 08 2015 09:23 Zoler wrote:
So, someone wants to make more gifs of Leffen throwing his controller in utter rage this weekend? :D

Apparently he also broke a window, not on stream though... That guy is disgusting.

woah when was this? what happened?
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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
March 08 2015 11:13 GMT
#2339
On March 08 2015 09:23 Zoler wrote:
So, someone wants to make more gifs of Leffen throwing his controller in utter rage this weekend? :D

Apparently he also broke a window, not on stream though... That guy is disgusting.


isn't that like, an unfounded rumour with no basis lol
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-08 12:30:20
March 08 2015 12:29 GMT
#2340
On March 08 2015 20:13 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2015 09:23 Zoler wrote:
So, someone wants to make more gifs of Leffen throwing his controller in utter rage this weekend? :D

Apparently he also broke a window, not on stream though... That guy is disgusting.


isn't that like, an unfounded rumour with no basis lol


www.twitch.tv/raitch/b/633408547?t=2h03m17s

http://www.twitch.tv/raitch/b/633408547?t=2h25m00s

Apparently he didn't break the window, he just punched it hard.

On March 08 2015 14:05 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2015 09:23 Zoler wrote:
So, someone wants to make more gifs of Leffen throwing his controller in utter rage this weekend? :D

Apparently he also broke a window, not on stream though... That guy is disgusting.

Didn't you say he was your friend?



A long time ago.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
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