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IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
December 28 2009 13:10 GMT
#41
great job doctorhelvetica, now i can't wait for the flash vs best, i guess flash vs s2 doesn't count like a real game.
aka DTF-ZeRo
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
December 28 2009 13:11 GMT
#42
Great Writeup, Flash Fighting!
Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
December 28 2009 13:20 GMT
#43
Great write-up, thanks for interesting read.

I would love to see more your speculation on the similarities between Flash and Oov. The way these two approach the game I think is quite similar as Ver used to say, both dictate the game flow instead of reacting based on opponents' move and their mind game is of the greatest
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Abyzou
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden209 Posts
December 28 2009 14:13 GMT
#44
tl;dr: flash is amazinggggggggggg, btw he's amaziiiiing

I love how slanted some of these writeups are. Always using positive words to describe what he does, putting everything he does in the most positive light possible, etc.

Yeah, I'm a Flash hater. Always been, always will be. He just isn't entertaining to watch. He keeps going for the most 'effective' builds over and over (see- his anti-carrier build) because he can't think of doing anything else, and because progamers these days get so much pressure on them just to win, win, win. And he's also fond of sitting in his base, turtling til he rolls out and steamrolls the other player. How thunderously boring.

And that's why he'll never be the 'neo-Boxer' he wants to be. Simply winning isn't enough, little monster.
Savior and Jaedong, how come zerg progamers are so awesome?
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
December 28 2009 14:19 GMT
#45
On December 28 2009 23:13 Abyzou wrote:
tl;dr: flash is amazinggggggggggg, btw he's amaziiiiing

I love how slanted some of these writeups are. Always using positive words to describe what he does, putting everything he does in the most positive light possible, etc.

Yeah, I'm a Flash hater. Always been, always will be. He just isn't entertaining to watch. He keeps going for the most 'effective' builds over and over (see- his anti-carrier build) because he can't think of doing anything else, and because progamers these days get so much pressure on them just to win, win, win. And he's also fond of sitting in his base, turtling til he rolls out and steamrolls the other player. How thunderously boring.

And that's why he'll never be the 'neo-Boxer' he wants to be. Simply winning isn't enough, little monster.


You didn't even read the article, did you?

Flash fighting!!!!!!
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
December 28 2009 14:36 GMT
#46
On December 28 2009 23:19 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 23:13 Abyzou wrote:
tl;dr: flash is amazinggggggggggg, btw he's amaziiiiing

I love how slanted some of these writeups are. Always using positive words to describe what he does, putting everything he does in the most positive light possible, etc.

Yeah, I'm a Flash hater. Always been, always will be. He just isn't entertaining to watch. He keeps going for the most 'effective' builds over and over (see- his anti-carrier build) because he can't think of doing anything else, and because progamers these days get so much pressure on them just to win, win, win. And he's also fond of sitting in his base, turtling til he rolls out and steamrolls the other player. How thunderously boring.

And that's why he'll never be the 'neo-Boxer' he wants to be. Simply winning isn't enough, little monster.


You didn't even read the article, did you?

Flash fighting!!!!!!


Why should he?
And why should the article change his mind?

if you hate him for always using the most effective counters... you got a point.
@ abyzou: watch his not counting games, he does funny stuff there.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 28 2009 14:56 GMT
#47
Just finished reading it all.
As a (T)Flash fan, all I can say is that this was AWESOME!
Thx, doc.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 15:23:55
December 28 2009 15:14 GMT
#48
On December 28 2009 23:13 Abyzou wrote:
Yeah, I'm a Flash hater. Always been, always will be. He just isn't entertaining to watch. He keeps going for the most 'effective' builds over and over (see- his anti-carrier build) because he can't think of doing anything else, and because progamers these days get so much pressure on them just to win, win, win. And he's also fond of sitting in his base, turtling til he rolls out and steamrolls the other player. How thunderously boring.

And that's why he'll never be the 'neo-Boxer' he wants to be. Simply winning isn't enough, little monster.


What other criteria should Flash use in choosing his builds besides effectiveness? He certainly doesn't give a crap whether Abyzou is entertained, thank God.

When have progamers not had pressure on them to win? Winning is what being a progamer is about.

Also, your characterization of Flash as a turtle player suggests that you haven't watched any of his games in the last 3 months, which may be fine for you if you don't like him, but which makes your opinion completely uninformed.

Basically, quit spouting nonsense --- every single progamer plays to win and Flash is just loads better at it than almost everyone else.

On December 28 2009 21:44 SuperArc wrote:
Why didnt JD get such an epic article when he was close to Dual SL win just a few months ago?

The only one who could prevent JD from winning both was Oz/PL. I suspect KT will destroy Flash's dreams too. I hope I am wrong, hes one of the most underachieving players ever.

Dude, I know where that's coming from, but I have to disagree. He's gotten most-wins in PL twice, which to me seems like a very big achievement. (You know your team is godawful if you have most-wins and they don't even make the playoffs!) Tack on to that an OSL, the GSI, and a random Gom SL that nobody cares about (lol), and you have a resume that's not half bad for a 17-year-old.

I know you're not knocking Flash --- and I understand you're talking about OSLs and MSLs relative to comparable players like Jaedong and Bisu --- so just give the kid a little bit more time. He's still younger than either of those two were when they took their first leagues
May the BeSt man win.
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
December 28 2009 15:32 GMT
#49
Very nice writeup. I just breezed thru, very easy and interesting to read! And loooved your pictures with quotes!
Forever Vulture.. :(
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
December 28 2009 15:50 GMT
#50
On December 28 2009 23:36 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 23:19 Mooncat wrote:
On December 28 2009 23:13 Abyzou wrote:
tl;dr: flash is amazinggggggggggg, btw he's amaziiiiing

I love how slanted some of these writeups are. Always using positive words to describe what he does, putting everything he does in the most positive light possible, etc.

Yeah, I'm a Flash hater. Always been, always will be. He just isn't entertaining to watch. He keeps going for the most 'effective' builds over and over (see- his anti-carrier build) because he can't think of doing anything else, and because progamers these days get so much pressure on them just to win, win, win. And he's also fond of sitting in his base, turtling til he rolls out and steamrolls the other player. How thunderously boring.

And that's why he'll never be the 'neo-Boxer' he wants to be. Simply winning isn't enough, little monster.


You didn't even read the article, did you?

Flash fighting!!!!!!


Why should he?
And why should the article change his mind?

if you hate him for always using the most effective counters... you got a point.
@ abyzou: watch his not counting games, he does funny stuff there.


Because this write-up might shed a new light on some things Flash does and his "turtlish" style of play in TvT and sometimes TvP. And also simply because his post makes it seem like he hasn't watched any of Flash's games over the last few months.

"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
December 28 2009 16:05 GMT
#51
AWESOME writup! FlaSh Hwaiting!
AKA SuddenSalad
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 28 2009 16:23 GMT
#52
This is an all-time top 3 TLFE. Pure win.

Thanks for the great read and the inmense effort.
renchak
Profile Joined April 2009
209 Posts
December 28 2009 16:35 GMT
#53
Really good work doctor, always appreciate final edits.
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
December 28 2009 17:05 GMT
#54
The Boy who cried Bonjawa -_-
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
December 28 2009 17:21 GMT
#55
It's good for newcomers like me to understand the greatness of players like flash. I see him playing and i know he is special but never knew he did so many things like that
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
December 28 2009 17:59 GMT
#56
My new favorite article

great job DoctorHelvetica
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
December 28 2009 18:20 GMT
#57
awsome thx guys for this very nice and entertaning read
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
December 28 2009 18:33 GMT
#58
wow i read the whole thing
+ Show Spoiler +
was worth every moment spent
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
December 28 2009 18:34 GMT
#59
Sick FE. Awesome job as always, Flash def has a strong chance for both leagues as long as he doesn't meet up with a protoss.
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 28 2009 18:52 GMT
#60
On December 28 2009 23:13 Abyzou wrote:
tl;dr: flash is amazinggggggggggg, btw he's amaziiiiing

I love how slanted some of these writeups are. Always using positive words to describe what he does, putting everything he does in the most positive light possible, etc.

Yeah, I'm a Flash hater. Always been, always will be. He just isn't entertaining to watch. He keeps going for the most 'effective' builds over and over (see- his anti-carrier build) because he can't think of doing anything else, and because progamers these days get so much pressure on them just to win, win, win. And he's also fond of sitting in his base, turtling til he rolls out and steamrolls the other player. How thunderously boring.

And that's why he'll never be the 'neo-Boxer' he wants to be. Simply winning isn't enough, little monster.


Your lack of reading comprehension is astounding.

Actually you probably didn't read at all which is okay because you aren't actually the target audience.

Aren't you the same guy that always says things about Flash that are grossly inaccurate anyway?
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
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