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[BOyGiRl]ShaRp
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (S)1912 Posts
March 20 2007 21:42 GMT
#41
There's really nothing much OGN and MBCgame can do.
Kespa is made up of people from gaming teams, staff of SKT1, KTF, and so on. That's why recently the MSL prelims were stopped during progress. After hearing that OGN and MBCgame did not agree to the demands of KESPA, all the gaming teams pulled their players out of the competition except OGN and MBC.

OGN and MBC have no weapons to fight KESPA with. Yes, they can threaten to not participate in KESPA events, but that's pretty much the only threat they have.
Hexatron Bba!!
Manatea
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)48 Posts
March 20 2007 21:54 GMT
#42
On March 20 2007 22:38 gravity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2007 19:32 Manatea wrote:
but Korean fans definitely have more information than you and most Korean fans(80-90% I guess) supports OGN/MBCgame
I hope you believe Korean fans.

It doesn't really matter what fans support (unless they're really so serious as to actually permanently boycott any new leagues), the general public is pretty ignorant about business matters usually. I'm not saying Kespa is necessarily right in this instance, but the general thing they're trying to do (separate the tournaments from the broadcasting) is a good idea for the future of pro SC. Most people seem to be just be supporting OGN/MBC out of blind loyalty (because they "started it") or out of childish affront at IEG/Kespa's supposed "greed", as if OGN/MBC aren't trying to make as much money as possible themselves.



You have some points, but you can't blame fans.
It's true people were just arguing and did nothing.
Actually most people don't care as long as they can watch the leagues.

The time common fans got really furious was when coaches left out with players during MSL prelims
IT WAS BEING BROADCASTED on TV
Think that you are watching your favorite sport game, MLB, NBA, or whatever and you watch players are leaving during the game.
How does audience feel?
After this scandal, people started to go out from their online communities, and took actions.

Many people supported Kespa, too. they just thought Kespa/IEG were demanding too much money.
but Kespa/IEG sticked to their first offer, (while OGN/MBCgame suggested some concessions) and boycotted leagues while it's run on TV
Now there are only few Kespa's supporters. It's their fault that people hate them.

thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
March 21 2007 06:40 GMT
#43
Manatea, thanks so much for giving us this "inside" information from the Korean fan activity that we don't have access to.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 21 2007 11:36 GMT
#44
On March 20 2007 17:26 SonuvBob wrote:
Because they have no interest in doing so, given the need for translations or foreign casters, and the general apathy the majority of the pro gaming scene seems to hold towards foreigners.


Exactly. So why do you think IEG would promote such a move?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
March 21 2007 12:29 GMT
#45
Just a hunch.

On February 21 2007 17:32 IEGbrooks wrote:
We are trying to reinvigorate the StarCraft community by spreading the Proleague contents to the US and Europe, whether its online or TV.

IEG being the International E-Sports Group Inc
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SeBASTa
Profile Joined September 2003
China1147 Posts
March 21 2007 14:30 GMT
#46
It's time for boxer to come back and make everything as it used to be
En Taro Terran
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
March 22 2007 00:07 GMT
#47
are there updates? any news on when MSL qualifier will resume? [I want to see REACH WHOOO MANTOSS]

And hopefully Proleague will start on 7 april as planned?
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Manatea
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)48 Posts
March 22 2007 01:00 GMT
#48
New information

http://www.fighterforum.com/news/news_read.asp?cat=ISS&idx=17185

MSL prelims resume March 29th, 1:00 PM(Korean time)
It said Survivor starts April 4th
24 qualifiers and 8 seeds play Dual-Tournament style league and 16 additional players will go MSL
MSL starts late April

http://www.fighterforum.com/news/news_read.asp?cat=ISS&idx=17186
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50872

It tells changes of MSL
Live2Win already posted all information
Additional information is they increase prize money
Total amount of prize money : 70 millions won -> 120 millions won(almost 120,000$)
Winner's prize : 50 millions won (50,000$)


http://www.fighterforum.com/news/news_read.asp?cat=ISS&idx=17187

Kespa is looking for companies which buy Pantech EX team
The article says two companies are positive to buy the team.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
March 22 2007 01:05 GMT
#49
Thanks for the updates, Manatea. Sounds like good news.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
March 22 2007 01:18 GMT
#50
would that make it largest prize pot?

;o

Sounds like good news.

MANTOSS PLAYS ON THE 29TH. mark the date~
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
March 22 2007 01:20 GMT
#51
YES. That means Pantech EX will not get dismantled hopefully.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
March 22 2007 01:43 GMT
#52
ahhh but I wanted to see KTF_NaDa rise up again.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
flammie
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
61 Posts
March 22 2007 04:01 GMT
#53
On March 21 2007 06:54 Manatea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2007 22:38 gravity wrote:
On March 20 2007 19:32 Manatea wrote:
but Korean fans definitely have more information than you and most Korean fans(80-90% I guess) supports OGN/MBCgame
I hope you believe Korean fans.

It doesn't really matter what fans support (unless they're really so serious as to actually permanently boycott any new leagues), the general public is pretty ignorant about business matters usually. I'm not saying Kespa is necessarily right in this instance, but the general thing they're trying to do (separate the tournaments from the broadcasting) is a good idea for the future of pro SC. Most people seem to be just be supporting OGN/MBC out of blind loyalty (because they "started it") or out of childish affront at IEG/Kespa's supposed "greed", as if OGN/MBC aren't trying to make as much money as possible themselves.



You have some points, but you can't blame fans.
It's true people were just arguing and did nothing.
Actually most people don't care as long as they can watch the leagues.

The time common fans got really furious was when coaches left out with players during MSL prelims
IT WAS BEING BROADCASTED on TV
Think that you are watching your favorite sport game, MLB, NBA, or whatever and you watch players are leaving during the game.
How does audience feel?
After this scandal, people started to go out from their online communities, and took actions.

Many people supported Kespa, too. they just thought Kespa/IEG were demanding too much money.
but Kespa/IEG sticked to their first offer, (while OGN/MBCgame suggested some concessions) and boycotted leagues while it's run on TV
Now there are only few Kespa's supporters. It's their fault that people hate them.



This actually happened to Formula 1 racing in the US a couple of years ago.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/formula1/2005-06-19-us-grand-prix_x.htm?POE=SPOISVA
It bascially killed any chance of Formula 1 ever becoming popular in the US
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
March 22 2007 09:37 GMT
#54
okay, do we know what has changed or happened to make the MSL Preliminaries resume?
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-22 11:52:11
March 22 2007 11:51 GMT
#55
On March 21 2007 21:29 SonuvBob wrote:
IEG being the International E-Sports Grave Inc


I find this more fitting.
I'll call Nada.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 22 2007 12:32 GMT
#56
On March 22 2007 18:37 semioldguy wrote:
okay, do we know what has changed or happened to make the MSL Preliminaries resume?


Kespa/IEG and MBC/OGN came to an agreement. We dont know what agreement they came to.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-23 01:30:35
March 23 2007 01:30 GMT
#57
On March 22 2007 10:20 jkillashark wrote:
YES. That means Pantech EX will not get dismantled hopefully.


[image loading]


Chipmunk Terran Fighting !
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niceplayer
Profile Joined March 2007
United States238 Posts
March 23 2007 05:57 GMT
#58
Ahaha is that a peanut? xD
free[gm] - redeemer toss fighting!
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-23 12:30:35
March 23 2007 12:28 GMT
#59
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ChoboCop
Profile Joined July 2004
United States954 Posts
March 25 2007 01:48 GMT
#60
Damn, chess tournaments in the United States generate a larger prize pool.

Ouch.
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