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Evilmonkey.
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1628 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-24 12:03:25
February 24 2007 11:50 GMT
#1
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Poll: Is Savior's dominance a good thing or bad thing for progaming?
(Vote): good thing
(Vote): bad thing

Personally, I'm tired of him winning. I am so ready for someone to knock him of his throne. While I do respect him as a player, I would much rather see someone like rA or July winning. I don't think his play and style is doing anything for the Korean fans either. It seems like a lot of people show up to his matches just to see if he will lose. So what are Tl.nets thoughts?

edit: I redid the poll.
WWBD- What would Boxer do?
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-24 11:52:40
February 24 2007 11:51 GMT
#2
CRY MORE emomonkey!1

savior's dominance is fine for progaming

i like how the poll's options make no sense in relation to the question


"is this good or bad?"
yes
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-24 11:52:42
February 24 2007 11:52 GMT
#3
good :D
the boxer of our time, except he isn't as flashy or depicted as a nice guy
TaDa1.
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
655 Posts
February 24 2007 11:53 GMT
#4
sAviOr gave me the inspiration. His dominace brings the swarm strength, he's the best
sos bomber stork savior fan ^ http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5160596/1/WXZ/achievements/category/4377898
Talorr1411
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada39 Posts
February 24 2007 11:54 GMT
#5
On February 24 2007 20:51 Locked wrote:
CRY MORE emomonkey!1

savior's dominance is fine for progaming

i like how the poll's options make no sense in relation to the question


"is this good or bad?"
yes

I was thinking the exact same thing
If you always win, you play the wrong people
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
February 24 2007 11:54 GMT
#6
I do not see how "yes" or "no" answers good or bad.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-24 11:57:10
February 24 2007 11:56 GMT
#7
I voted yes because it's obviously good or bad for progaming. I would have voted good thing though since it's about time we got a Z player on top. Terrans have had far too long in the spotlight.
日本語が分かりますか
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
February 24 2007 11:56 GMT
#8
It's never bad. It's good because it will force the increase of skill levels.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
8players
Profile Joined December 2005
United States208 Posts
February 24 2007 11:58 GMT
#9
I'm guessing
good = Yes
and
bad = No
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
February 24 2007 11:58 GMT
#10
On February:56 nova_442 wrote:
I voted yes because it's obviously good or bad for progaming. I would have voted good thing though since it's about time we got a Z player on top. Terrans have had far too long in the spotlight.

GARIMTO PLEASE
nanoblaze
Profile Joined October 2006
Sweden79 Posts
February 24 2007 11:58 GMT
#11
On February 24 2007 20:50 Evilmonkey. wrote:
I don't think his play and style is doing anything for the Korean fans either.


I can't speak for the korean fans, but I think his defiler-usage is beautiful to watch.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
February 24 2007 12:03 GMT
#12
Also if games like Savior vs. Ra G1 on peaks or Savior vs. Iris G5 on arkanoid don't do anything for you, may I suggest your standards are a bit high?
日本語が分かりますか
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
February 24 2007 12:06 GMT
#13
i think he's a bit too dominant, from spectator's excitement point of view.

i'm not very hyped about the MSL final, for instance, because it's quite likely that it's going to be a rape.
I BELIEVE IN CAPITAL LETTER PUNISHMENT!!!!!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
February 24 2007 12:09 GMT
#14
This is excellent for progaming. If it was a toss up between tons of players all the time, people (or at least i) would be bored. Players like savior who achieve dominance gain such hype that when they fall (like he will to bisu next week ) everyone goes ape shit bananas.

Remember that 3-0 Superfight #1 against boxer? yeah, so much for super
Locke.
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Israel562 Posts
February 24 2007 12:14 GMT
#15
+ Show Spoiler +

HOW THE FUCK DID HE WIN 5TH GAME VS IRIS????


that's my thoughts about him

I remember seeing a replay of him on LT a long time ago.. Every little thing he did had meaning and was meant to confuse and demoralize his opponent. It was just beautiful. I prefer his intelligent style much more than nadas spam and attack style even though I usually side with the terrans being one myself.

I think he is great for SC cause he really makes you see the psychology in sc instead of just the plain 13 hours perfect macro micro which to me can be really boring to watch..

I hope he apologise for the Heil-Hitler poses in his next interviews. Being all his life infront of PC playing SC I guess he doesn't fully understand how offensive and out of place that is especially when he is a teenager's idol and every little thing he does has huge impact on the crowd..
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
February 24 2007 12:18 GMT
#16
the interviewers select his pose, not savior
pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5403 Posts
February 24 2007 12:19 GMT
#17
On February 24 2007 21:14 Locke. wrote:
Heil-Hitler poses

Weren't those just photoshops? I love watching Savior play. He's great for this game and the fans. Programing needs a villain!
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-24 12:23:26
February 24 2007 12:19 GMT
#18
sAviOr strikes me as a Neo-July in his image. July was the God of War and known for crushing many pro gamers. This could be interpreted as evil much like sAviOr.

sAviOr draws many fans because his play is impressive and his games are usually exciting (imo at least). I think he's helping the game a lot by giving a dominator like Boxer was and maybe he will inspire players to work harder and possibly bring in some new blood. He's certainly not hurting it.

I wish people would get of that pose. There are tons of logical explanations for it. I doubt he is a neo-Nazi or the Korean pro scene is biased towards Nazism. Things mean different things other places in the world and this could be the case. Stop saying he was saluting till you find out out all the facts.
Silver
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
New Zealand379 Posts
February 24 2007 12:20 GMT
#19
just the fact that he is dominant is great for progaming.
just because of this one thing:
it shows that a skilled player can consistently win, and that the game is not all luck and map imbals

that is *great* for gamers everywhere, they have something to aspire to
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
February 24 2007 12:22 GMT
#20
The very fact that so many people want to see him fall is part of what makes him so great. Having someone so dominant is both inspiring to those who like his style (of which I am one) and acts as anticipation for those who hate him, because they want someone to rise up to knock him down.

+ Show Spoiler +
Personally, I love that he's about to clean up and win both leagues in quick succession.
Think. :)
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