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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On July 24 2019 22:21 Harris1st wrote: We need Serral to sign up for Nation War! It's to cold for golf in November/ December anyway :D He always did in the past so I'd expect him to do it this time, not to mention Finland had stronger players in the past while now only Serral's glory might lead them to victory. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 24 2019 22:21 Harris1st wrote: We need Serral to sign up for Nation War! It's to cold for golf in November/ December anyway :D He finally did sign up! | ||
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tigon_ridge
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On July 31 2019 11:34 tigon_ridge wrote: Am I the only one nervous to death about the potential rematch vs Inno? I actually wanted it to happen. Serral should better win this time, the group doesn't seem super scary anyway. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6860 Posts
On July 31 2019 11:34 tigon_ridge wrote: Am I the only one nervous to death about the potential rematch vs Inno? Dunno. Serral is the only foreigner for whom I'm never afraid. He didn't get "lucky" or anything with his wins. He is just better | ||
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HolydaKing
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tigon_ridge
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 05 2019 20:02 tigon_ridge wrote: Serral should stay with his brother, or anywhere else in Korea permanently after GSL vs the World. Europe just doesn't have the caliber of players he needs to practice against. Showtime and Neeb are not strong enough to consistently push Serral's ZvP to his limit. Serral is extremely talented, but this continent simply doesn't have what it takes to bring out his true potential. I'd also like to see Serral's Korean ladder MMR once again. Serral rose to be the best player in the world last year without staying in Korea; his ZvT improved drastically this year playing on the EU server, and I doubt Heromarine&co can be seen as stronger than Neeb and Showtime(if anything, it's their macro style not resembling the aggressive one korean Protoss have, not the fact they are too weak that can affect Serral's ZvP training). I would like to see Serral play in Code S and hopefully winning one, but he does not need to train in Korea, he already went beyond that; he needs instead to somehow regain the clutchness in decider games he had last year, he might have won four more tournaments in 2019 if he could be as efficient as he was in 2018. Serral's level of play after his ascension went could vary from untouchable god(peaking at BlizzCon) to mere super top player(Montreal) last year as well, even if it was generally slightly higher and it didn't have the drop we could observe in mid March/April this year. What really is making the difference is that he won all the most important maps in 2018 while he now tends to lose the decider games in the hardest series. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On August 05 2019 20:21 Xain0n wrote: Serral rose to be the best player in the world last year without staying in Korea; his ZvT improved drastically this year playing on the EU server, and I doubt Heromarine&co can be seen as stronger than Neeb and Showtime(if anything, it's their macro style not resembling the aggressive one korean Protoss have, not the fact they are too weak that can affect Serral's ZvP training). I would like to see Serral play in Code S and hopefully winning one, but he does not need to train in Korea, he already went beyond that; he needs instead to somehow regain the clutchness in decider games he had last year, he might have won four more tournaments in 2019 if he could be as efficient as he was in 2018. Serral's level of play after his ascension went could vary from untouchable god(peaking at BlizzCon) to mere super top player(Montreal) last year as well, even if it was generally slightly higher and it didn't have the drop we could observe in mid March/April this year. What really is making the difference is that he won all the most important maps in 2018 while he now tends to lose the decider games in the hardest series. I’d still love to see it, but as you say I don’t think it’s necessary. Historically people went to Korea to practice vs better players and also grind out their mechanically problems surrounded by players who were better mechanically. Serral is already that good mechanically, and he’s already got as good as he is without needing consistent Korean practice anyway. His strengths aren’t in mechanics anyway, his mechanics are monstrous but he really shines at making the right decisions all the time. He studies the game a lot and thinks about it a lot without just grinding, and then applies what he figures out and executes it well. His current approach seems to work rather well for him, he may as well keep it going. He usually brings something slightly new to a tournament, it’s pretty cool. He was using multiple lategame Nydus play vT at a tournament and it looked super strong, and I haven’t seen him use it the same way since. Special benefits from being in Korea a lot partly because the better practice, also because he can trade builds and ideas with TY that he’s friends with. It might go against Serral to practice a lot in Korea in fact. It’s a lot more exposure of his play to the pros there, and these pros practice and talk with each other. There aren’t obvious flaws in Serral’s game, but like any player there will be chinks in his armour and more exposure may see them found and exploited more readily. | ||
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MeoWtalisk
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Sign me up!!! | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On August 10 2019 18:49 MeoWtalisk wrote: Serral <3333 Sign me up!!! Done. | ||
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xtorn
4060 Posts
On August 05 2019 22:47 Wombat_NI wrote: I’d still love to see it, but as you say I don’t think it’s necessary. Historically people went to Korea to practice vs better players and also grind out their mechanically problems surrounded by players who were better mechanically. Serral is already that good mechanically, and he’s already got as good as he is without needing consistent Korean practice anyway. His strengths aren’t in mechanics anyway, his mechanics are monstrous but he really shines at making the right decisions all the time. He studies the game a lot and thinks about it a lot without just grinding, and then applies what he figures out and executes it well. His current approach seems to work rather well for him, he may as well keep it going. He usually brings something slightly new to a tournament, it’s pretty cool. He was using multiple lategame Nydus play vT at a tournament and it looked super strong, and I haven’t seen him use it the same way since. Special benefits from being in Korea a lot partly because the better practice, also because he can trade builds and ideas with TY that he’s friends with. It might go against Serral to practice a lot in Korea in fact. It’s a lot more exposure of his play to the pros there, and these pros practice and talk with each other. There aren’t obvious flaws in Serral’s game, but like any player there will be chinks in his armour and more exposure may see them found and exploited more readily. Nicely summarized. He raised the bar of reasoning about the game | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3999 Posts
its insane at some point he was 28 army supply vs 62. wtf | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3999 Posts
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tigon_ridge
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UnLarva
458 Posts
2x GSL vs The World (2018, 2019) 5x WCS Tournaments 2x HomeStory Cup (Premier and Major) 3x 2nd Place WCS tournament 1x 2nd Place WESG 1x 3rd Place WESG 1x 3rd-4th Place Asus ROG Assembly 1x 3rd-4th Place IEM Championship 1x 6th-8th Place IEM Championship + other stuff, like Few Aligulac all time records Korean ladder all time mmr record A plot of land in the home municipality of Pornainen (the First E-Sport athlete ever) Serral Open Golf tournament + other things... Since little more than year and half ago. Its all becoming to look seriously impressive. GG Joona! :D | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
2nd place of tl.net's monthly power rank as his best. The achieving the 1st place in the power rank has been proven to be more difficult achievement than making the history's first full grand slam in the Circuit, becoming the first ever 'foreigner' SC2 world champion, making the all time record offline winning streak and breaking and subjugating last two decades' worth of Korean dominance and hegemony... ...and still effectively continuing that same spell anyway, against all odds. Hint, hint. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On August 18 2019 22:30 UnLarva wrote: 1x Blizzcon (2018) 2x GSL vs The World (2018, 2019) 5x WCS Tournaments 2x HomeStory Cup (Premier and Major) 3x 2nd Place WCS tournament 1x 2nd Place WESG 1x 3rd Place WESG 1x 3rd-4th Place Asus ROG Assembly 1x 3rd-4th Place IEM Championship 1x 6th-8th Place IEM Championship + other stuff, like Few Aligulac all time records Korean ladder all time mmr record A plot of land in the home municipality of Pornainen (the First E-Sport athlete ever) Serral Open Golf tournament + other things... Since little more than year and half ago. Its all becoming to look seriously impressive. GG Joona! :D I think he also has the longest streak at offline tournaments, longest streak vs Koreans and best win rate vs Koreans too. | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
On August 18 2019 23:27 Wombat_NI wrote: I think he also has the longest streak at offline tournaments, longest streak vs Koreans and best win rate vs Koreans too. Yeah. Something like that. | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
08/03/2019 Serral FI Z 2–3 P KR Stats Assembly 2019 Summer Main Tournament 07/14/2019 Serral FI Z 2–4 Z IT Reynor WCS 2019 Summer Main Tournament 06/27/2019 Serral FI Z 0–2 P KR Stats HomeStory Cup XIX 04/07/2019 Serral FI Z 3–4 Z IT Reynor WCS 2019 Winter Europe Main Tournament 03/17/2019 Serral FI Z 3–4 T KR INnoVation WESG 2018 Main Event 03/11/2019 Serral FI Z 0–2 P US Neeb WESG 2018 Main Event 03/02/2019 Serral FI Z 2–3 Z KR soO IEM Season XIII World Championship 03/01/2019 Serral FI Z 1–2 T KR INnoVation IEM Season XIII World Championship 04/22/2018 Serral FI Z 0–1 Z KR soO O'Gaming Nation Wars V Playoffs 04/22/2018 Serral FI Z 0–1 Z KR soO O'Gaming Nation Wars V Playoffs 03/17/2018 Serral FI Z 0–3 T KR Maru WESG 2017 Main Event 03/04/2018 Serral FI Z 0–3 P KR Classic IEM Season XII World Championship 02/06/2018 Serral FI Z 1–3 Z CA Scarlett IEM Season XII PyeongChang Main Event Winrates: 306–106 (74.27%) in games 110–13 (89.43%) in matches. Source: http://aligulac.com/players/485/results/?after=2018-01-01&before=2019-08-18&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=offline&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Reversed losing rates against Koreans during same time span: 99–52 (65.56%) in games and 35–9 (79.55%) in matches Innovation, Stats, SoO, Maru and Classic being only Koreans capable to take offline match(es) vs Serral. --- Zergs of the world are all and have been a quite a while Serral's pupils anyway, so losing ZvZ doesn't hurt Serral that much, Reynor and Elazer being the most prominent apprentices of The Overmind's European Dojo. Note that sample sizes since Jan 1st, 2018 aren't anymore that small anyone could put anything about Serral's reign simply to fluke/luck/brackets etc. 9 Premier tournament victories to 13 lost offline matches (14-35 in Maps) in a time span of some 1.5 years: Un-precendented in the History of SC2. | ||
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