EPTOn July 15 2017 03:02 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Well that's nice i guess
Well that's nice i guess
yeah that's very nice
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France24238 Posts
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pvsnp
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On July 14 2017 17:34 Elentos wrote: That argument is really stupid. When you only have 8 spots you can't conceivably have every country in the world in there. That's objectively not possible. So you choose representatives. But when you only have 8 spots, you can conceivably have every GSL finalist of the year in there. That's objectively possible. Though it's true that this wouldn't come up if the event was called Korea vs The World instead of GSL vs The World, missing out on GuMiho is still the worst outcome either way because he's the best and most entertaining player in the Terran poll. Sure, it's a stupid argument. That's my point. Arguing over a name is a stupid thing to do because it's just a name. No the metaphor is not perfectly analogous, but I think it gets the point across. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16030 Posts
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
Anyway. they are keen keeping this voting thing. So just have to deal with it. I hope some decent players are voted, not some random players. If Zest gets voted, I hope he will practices hard and shows good games. | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
The whole voting is what the problem is. So just ignore that half the players were selected and not part of the voting process? Ignore the fact that the players available for voting are selected? You write as if any scrub can get in this if enough dumb people vote for them. No they can''t. Scrubs are not on the ballot! And Zest is one of the most accomplished players over the last 3 years. WTF is wrong with him playing in a tournament? It's not like he's taking a spot at blizzcon away from somebody. Dumb! | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On July 15 2017 03:02 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well that's nice i guess Liquid Bunny would actually trash Zest right now, dispite being inactive for so long. Also idc about the name. But if Zest get's in over all the other protoss that would be tragic. Him and sOs would lose to the foriegner in the ro16 almost garanteed. Some people on reddit are even voting Zest purely to get a foreigner into ro8 At least the other potential players (ByuN, Dark, Solar, maru, gumiho) should beat anyone from WCS circuit. Unless Solar get's ZvZ'd again or something | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On July 15 2017 10:16 Rolltide wrote: So just ignore that half the players were selected and not part of the voting process? Ignore the fact that the players available for voting are selected? You write as if any scrub can get in this if enough dumb people vote for them. No they can''t. Scrubs are not on the ballot! And Zest is one of the most accomplished players over the last 3 years. WTF is wrong with him playing in a tournament? It's not like he's taking a spot at blizzcon away from somebody. Dumb! Yah no offence but Zest is pretty much scrub level, as far as ex-KeSPA players go. He couldn't get into GSL. He traded maps against NoRegret and SouL (who??) in an offline cup. I don't care if he has 3 GSL trophies from the past, right now he doesn't deserve the shot at a $100K prize pool. herO, Classic, Dear, even sOs are outperforming him. | ||
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Elentos
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On July 15 2017 09:58 Charoisaur wrote: Yeah arguing over a name is stupid. I mean it also doesn't make sense that MajOr is playing for Team World considering he plays in the GSL. He plays in both but he's only a top player in one. | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On July 15 2017 10:23 Fango wrote: Yah no offence but Zest is pretty much scrub level, as far as ex-KeSPA players go. He couldn't get into GSL. He traded maps against NoRegret and SouL (who??) in an offline cup. I don't care if he has 3 GSL trophies from the past, right now he doesn't deserve the shot at a $100K prize pool. herO, Classic, Dear, even sOs are outperforming him. 2 thumbs up for you, my friend. Well-said. The fact that someone bothers bringing out Zest's accomplishments from the past only highlights how horrible he is right now. | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
Innovation was not even in the top 13 in WCS points in Korea last year. He won no major tournaments. He is crap, he is garbage, mard!!! What has he done this year? He's the top player in the world! Zest could bounce back and be great again next year. He can certainly be great again for one week. And what is this idiot idea that Korea has to win everything every time? Oh no the poor Koreans might lose a tournament because Zest got in instead of Hero and classic. Ohhhhhhhh noooooooo. I am a Zest fan, I want to see him play in this tournament. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On July 15 2017 18:24 Rolltide wrote: Zest's past accomplishments are why we are here right now! Why are you members of his fan club if you think he sucks so bad? Innovation was not even in the top 13 in WCS points in Korea last year. He won no major tournaments. He is crap, he is garbage, mard!!! What has he done this year? He's the top player in the world! Zest could bounce back and be great again next year. He can certainly be great again for one week. And what is this idiot idea that Korea has to win everything every time? Oh no the poor Koreans might lose a tournament because Zest got in instead of Hero and classic. Ohhhhhhhh noooooooo. I am a Zest fan, I want to see him play in this tournament. We still love Zest, but I'm not denying he's bloody terrible. And korea deserve to win when they have the better players. Blizzard marketed this cup as "the best of the wcs circuit against the korean elite". It should be the best 8 players in Korea. Zest hasn't earned the right to play in it. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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On July 15 2017 23:26 Olli wrote: This is an incredibly stupid argument. Vote for Zest if you want him to play, don't if you don't. Well that is the reality of it, i still think the voting itself is a terrible concept and thus i try to vote for the best players (aka most likely to qualify for it/do well in it). Zest simply isn't one of these players atm. Ofc i still think he can bounce back, but i don't have to be delusional and think that Zest is a top player atm, i just hope he will be one day again. So no artosis, zest isn't one of the best toss players atm  | ||
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Silvana
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bestiszest
France103 Posts
Zest won offline hell yeah ! | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
This is an incredibly stupid argument. Vote for Zest if you want him to play, don't if you don't. So what is it you are advocating the retard message board? How about people discussing WHY or WHY NOT they would want to vote for him or not vote for him? Why even have a message board at all? | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
I voted for him to play in this tournament because I'm a fan. One so called "fan" said that Liquid Bunny a retired player from Norway could dominate Zest. No he would not. | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On July 16 2017 04:14 Rolltide wrote: I love when so called Zest fan fans call him trash. That's real consistent. He's having a bad year. He's struggling. The man is not trash! I voted for him to play in this tournament because I'm a fan. One so called "fan" said that Liquid Bunny a retired player from Norway could dominate Zest. No he would not. Are you serious? We've been in this fanclub for years now and you think you get to tell who's the real fan and who's not? And this retarded "if you speak bad of him you're not a real fan!" argument'? | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
I did not generalize it by saying speaking bad of him makes you not a fan or that saying he is not playing well makes you not a fan. . I never said that voting for some other Protoss automatically means you are not a fan. Using words like trash means you are no fan of Zest. | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
I'm not his fan but I always appreciate his skills. I do hope he breaks the cycle of getting no results soon. If he continues to be stuck in this slump for next year, that may be the end of his career. He is not that young anymore. | ||
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