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I obviously don't think sOs is a better choice though -.-
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The_Red_Viper
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I obviously don't think sOs is a better choice though -.- | ||
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Lil_nooblet
United States459 Posts
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On July 13 2017 08:29 Lil_nooblet wrote: Wish it would have been a couple invites for each region and then qualifiers because at least that way if he would get in he would have at least earned it. Also only invites and fan voting for a 100k tournament is pretty dumb. I know right. Voting from fans? Since when SC2 becomes a popularity contest. | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
I voted for Zest and Showtime. Judging by the battlenet threads Zest will likely win that vote. I just want to see him play. Only issue I suppose is that he could be embarrassed like when he lost to an unknown Polish Zerg in nation wars. | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On July 13 2017 20:52 Rolltide wrote: Starcraft is a game and it's supposed to be fun. This is not a super serious tournament. The 100,000$ prize pool is serious business though. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Zest isn't one of them, i hope we can agree on that part. I look at this tournament as one of the only foreign vs korean tournaments there are right now, the prizepool is pretty big and these two factors together are enough for me to say that at least i take it rather seriously. | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
The most controversial aspect of this tournament is that Innovation and TY got invited but Gumiho needs to get the votes. Would be odd that the reigning GSL champ would not make it in and I doubt he will since Maru and Byun are more popular Terrans. Somebody said they don't want Zest representing Korea. Who cares? You mean Korea might lose the team aspect of this? Who gives a crap! What about the tournament Zest won in Toronto? Stats was not there. Prize money comes from advertising. People are not willing to watch unpopular players. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
In my opinion sOs, ByuN, and Zest do not deserve the entry as much as other players. | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On July 13 2017 23:27 Rolltide wrote: What about the tournament Zest won in Toronto? Stats was not there. They specifically picked the Koreans they picked because they wanted foreigners to have a shot. KeeN and Leenock aren't exactly epically popular players. | ||
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Lil_nooblet
United States459 Posts
On July 14 2017 05:28 Elentos wrote: They specifically picked the Koreans they picked because they wanted foreigners to have a shot. KeeN and Leenock aren't exactly epically popular players. Yeah and even then he looked shaky against them. For whatever reason even when he is practicing a lot he can't translate some of the online success to offline. Honestly I can't remember the last time he didn't look shaky offline. On another note though Zest played like 40+ games today on stream for 9 hours. Good to see that he's still trying at least. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On July 13 2017 23:27 Rolltide wrote: Half the players are already in by invite. Who cares how they select the other half? It's not like you can vote for just anyone. Only the big names are on the ballot. The most controversial aspect of this tournament is that Innovation and TY got invited but Gumiho needs to get the votes. Would be odd that the reigning GSL champ would not make it in and I doubt he will since Maru and Byun are more popular Terrans. Somebody said they don't want Zest representing Korea. Who cares? You mean Korea might lose the team aspect of this? Who gives a crap! What about the tournament Zest won in Toronto? Stats was not there. Prize money comes from advertising. People are not willing to watch unpopular players. Inno and TY got in because they are in the top 4 and Gumiho did not because he is not. There's nothing controversial about that because the invites were issued fairly and consistently. It's not like Blizzard invited random players with random ranks. There will always be that one player who is ranked 5th with a top 4 cutoff, or 9th with a top 8 cutoff as will be the case for Blizzcon. Gumiho just drew the short straw this time, simple as that. The commonly expressed argument that Gumiho as the most recent GSL champion should be in an event titled "GSL vs the World" is just pedantic semantics. I don't see anyone objecting to the ~190 countries without a spot on Team World. GSL vs the World is just a name. What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. | ||
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AshC
United States328 Posts
On July 14 2017 11:17 pvsnp wrote: Inno and TY got in because they are in the top 4 and Gumiho did not because he is not. There's nothing controversial about that because the invites were issued fairly and consistently. It's not like Blizzard invited random players with random ranks. There will always be that one player who is ranked 5th with a top 4 cutoff, or 9th with a top 8 cutoff as will be the case for Blizzcon. Gumiho just drew the short straw this time, simple as that. The commonly expressed argument that Gumiho as the most recent GSL champion should be in an event titled "GSL vs the World" is just pedantic semantics. I don't see anyone objecting to the ~190 countries without a spot on Team World. GSL vs the World is just a name. What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. People tend to make a big deal out of some hotshot player. I'm sure GuMiho is fine if he doesn't get selected. He just won a ton of money. I don't expect him to be popular-vote Terran (most likely ByuN because of his cute dog or whatever). He may make it as the invited player though given he just won GSL recently his name is still in the air so he may get quite a few second-place votes. Zest, on the other hand, as popular as he is, I hope people won't vote for him. It is kind of wrong saying it here but his form is just too shaky at the moment. I feel if he ends up going to the event, he may get rek big time by some foreigner. It only hurts his mentality even more. | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On July 13 2017 20:52 Rolltide wrote: Starcraft is a game and it's supposed to be fun. This is not a super serious tournament. I voted for Zest and Showtime. Judging by the battlenet threads Zest will likely win that vote. I just want to see him play. Only issue I suppose is that he could be embarrassed like when he lost to an unknown Polish Zerg in nation wars. so everyone has a problem with Zest being bad but no one says anything about Showtime or Snute? or Keen? you guys are weird lol Zest is still better than a lot of foreigners so why can't he play? He might get rekt by the top koreans but he will still beat foreigners with his current skill-level. People are just salty that he is not a god, that's it. Edit: I quoted Rolltide's cuz he said he voted for Showtime, I'm just using his vote to give an opinion, nothing against him, and to be honest my post has nothing to do with his. I voted for Showtime too (and Dear) just saying. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On July 14 2017 11:17 pvsnp wrote: The commonly expressed argument that Gumiho as the most recent GSL champion should be in an event titled "GSL vs the World" is just pedantic semantics. I don't see anyone objecting to the ~190 countries without a spot on Team World. That argument is really stupid. When you only have 8 spots you can't conceivably have every country in the world in there. That's objectively not possible. So you choose representatives. But when you only have 8 spots, you can conceivably have every GSL finalist of the year in there. That's objectively possible. Though it's true that this wouldn't come up if the event was called Korea vs The World instead of GSL vs The World, missing out on GuMiho is still the worst outcome either way because he's the best and most entertaining player in the Terran poll. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 14 2017 17:34 Elentos wrote: That argument is really stupid. When you only have 8 spots you can't conceivably have every country in the world in there. That's objectively not possible. So you choose representatives. But when you only have 8 spots, you can conceivably have every GSL finalist of the year in there. That's objectively possible. Though it's true that this wouldn't come up if the event was called Korea vs The World instead of GSL vs The World, missing out on GuMiho is still the worst outcome either way because he's the best and most entertaining player in the Terran poll. I don't think you can call anyone the most entertaining player. Everyone likes different things. Some people probably even like reaper stuff. Unless you're talking about Has. Has is the most entertaining player. | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On July 14 2017 18:38 Phredxor wrote: I don't think you can call anyone the most entertaining player. Everyone likes different things. Some people probably even like reaper stuff. Unless you're talking about Has. Has is the most entertaining player. Shitposting aside, I guess that's true. Though GuMiho has pretty big public acclaim for his entertaining games. All the way back to WoL. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Well that's nice i guess  | ||
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