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Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
July 08 2017 11:53 GMT
#3541
If Dear is clearly better than the top foreign Protoss why did he lose 2-0 to Showtime at the world championships? I don't care about Dear's form the last 2 weeks.

Dear could not take a map off the 2nd best foreign Protoss player. Then Dear was eliminated 2-0 in the decider match by Byun. The reason Dear had the misfortune of playing Byun in a decider match was because Byun lost to Showtime 2-0 also.

So Showtime beat dear head to head and then beat a guy Dear lost to but Dear is better because he has played well the last 2 weeks?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 08 2017 11:58 GMT
#3542
On July 08 2017 20:53 Rolltide wrote:
If Dear is clearly better than the top foreign Protoss why did he lose 2-0 to Showtime at the world championships? I don't care about Dear's form the last 2 weeks.

Dear could not take a map off the 2nd best foreign Protoss player. Then Dear was eliminated 2-0 in the decider match by Byun. The reason Dear had the misfortune of playing Byun in a decider match was because Byun lost to Showtime 2-0 also.

So Showtime beat dear head to head and then beat a guy Dear lost to but Dear is better because he has played well the last 2 weeks?

Are you serious? With any of this?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
July 08 2017 12:05 GMT
#3543
What tournament did Dear play so great? In GSL season 2 he was eliminated in the rd of 16. He was 2-3 overall in matches and 4-7 in maps? Sick?

His group has not played yet in season 3, they play on the 20th.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
July 08 2017 12:06 GMT
#3544
Are you serious? With any of this?


Pertaining to what? Sorry if I referenced the biggest tournament in the world.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 08 2017 12:27 GMT
#3545
On July 08 2017 21:05 Rolltide wrote:
What tournament did Dear play so great? In GSL season 2 he was eliminated in the rd of 16. He was 2-3 overall in matches and 4-7 in maps? Sick?

His group has not played yet in season 3, they play on the 20th.


Zest went 0-4 in Season 2, certainly worse than Dear making RO16. And didn't even qualify for Season 3.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16090 Posts
July 08 2017 13:00 GMT
#3546
On July 08 2017 21:06 Rolltide wrote:
Show nested quote +
Are you serious? With any of this?


Pertaining to what? Sorry if I referenced the biggest tournament in the world.

so because Dear lost a bo3 to Showtime 8 months ago it means Showtime is better than Dear right now?
Would you also say jjakji is currently a better player than INnoVation because he beat him in a bo3 in the SSL season 2 qualifiers last year?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-08 15:59:36
July 08 2017 15:55 GMT
#3547
On July 08 2017 20:53 Rolltide wrote:
If Dear is clearly better than the top foreign Protoss why did he lose 2-0 to Showtime at the world championships? I don't care about Dear's form the last 2 weeks.

Dear could not take a map off the 2nd best foreign Protoss player. Then Dear was eliminated 2-0 in the decider match by Byun. The reason Dear had the misfortune of playing Byun in a decider match was because Byun lost to Showtime 2-0 also.

So Showtime beat dear head to head and then beat a guy Dear lost to but Dear is better because he has played well the last 2 weeks?


Are you actually serious? Your using a bo3 from 8 months ago on a different patch, to represent the current skill level?

Remember when Pet beat Dark around that same time? I guess that means he's better right now obviously.....

Dear is currently on a hot streak, taking out ByuN, Maru, Classic, and ByuL. How many koreans has Neeb beaten recently? Penguin and jjakji are litterally the only ones, not really impressive feats.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
July 09 2017 16:26 GMT
#3548
so because Dear lost a bo3 to Showtime 8 months ago it means Showtime is better than Dear right now?
Would you also say jjakji is currently a better player than INnoVation because he beat him in a bo3 in the SSL season 2 qualifiers last year?


Do you have a more recent match between Showtime and Dear to judge them by? If they had played a match in HOTS it might not be applicable but the match in November was in a tournament for the world championship!!!! They only have one of those every year.

How in the hell else would you evaluate them? So the Patriots won the super bowl but because they have not played in the last week they are no better than any other team?

Again if you have more recent matches mention them.

Saying a guy is on fire is lame. You could have said Zest was on fire after that Toronto win but what happened since?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-09 17:15:12
July 09 2017 17:14 GMT
#3549
On July 10 2017 01:26 Rolltide wrote:
Show nested quote +
so because Dear lost a bo3 to Showtime 8 months ago it means Showtime is better than Dear right now?
Would you also say jjakji is currently a better player than INnoVation because he beat him in a bo3 in the SSL season 2 qualifiers last year?


Do you have a more recent match between Showtime and Dear to judge them by? If they had played a match in HOTS it might not be applicable but the match in November was in a tournament for the world championship!!!! They only have one of those every year.

How in the hell else would you evaluate them? So the Patriots won the super bowl but because they have not played in the last week they are no better than any other team?

Again if you have more recent matches mention them.

Saying a guy is on fire is lame. You could have said Zest was on fire after that Toronto win but what happened since?


That is such a stupid comparison. Zest beat noregret, soul, and keen. Not a big deal. Dear has crushed ByuN, Maru, Classic, and ByuL. That's impressive.

And a single bo3 from last year is irrelevent. Doesn't matter what tournament it was. Form has changed for both of them, metas have changed, patches have changed etc. Like I said before, would you say Pet is better than Dark because of the bo3 they played last year (that Pet won 2-0)?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 09 2017 17:33 GMT
#3550
Hello guys
What has happened to Zest since I stopped following SC2 (LotV launch) ? Is he doing well ?
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zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
July 09 2017 17:41 GMT
#3551
he hit a really hard slump we hope he is on the the rise again
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Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
July 09 2017 18:18 GMT
#3552
On July 10 2017 02:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Hello guys
What has happened to Zest since I stopped following SC2 (LotV launch) ? Is he doing well ?


He won gsl season 1 of 2016 and was easily the best player for the first half of the year but then he started slumping in the 2nd half. He was better from November to February of this year but now since March he has been pretty awful. Hopefully he can turn it around. He's actually streaming right now if you wanna check it out: https://www.twitch.tv/sc2_zest
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 09 2017 19:23 GMT
#3553
On July 10 2017 02:33 OtherWorld wrote:
Hello guys
What has happened to Zest since I stopped following SC2 (LotV launch) ? Is he doing well ?

good to see you again ! He did pretty well at the beginning as others said but he hit an all time low recently, playing horribly everytime he would show offline. He seems to be getting half decent results as of late, so maybe there is still hope. He's always quite high on KR ladder when he streams.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 10 2017 15:33 GMT
#3554
Happy birthday Zest!
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 10 2017 15:43 GMT
#3555
Zest and ByuN been playing against eachother on stream. Watching the side by side streams is actually really interesting.

Zest has been beating him as well
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-12 14:43:34
July 12 2017 14:43 GMT
#3556
Zest just finished a basetrade tournament. Finished 2nd.

Won round one on a bye, beat Penguin 2-0 and Hero 2-1. Then was basically embarrassed by Solar 3-0.

PvP looks first rate but his PvZ was weak. Despite finishing 2nd he only made about $55.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 12 2017 14:49 GMT
#3557
herO lost a map to an overwatch player though
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
July 12 2017 15:05 GMT
#3558
He played the PvZ series really weird. Game 2 he did a proxy 4 gate and then game 3 he took the gold on Odyssey.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-12 20:49:30
July 12 2017 20:47 GMT
#3559
Yep in game 2 where he tried a Zealot rush he had all 4 of his proxy gates powered by one Artosis pylon. When that was taken out by a few Zerglings it was GG.

In game one he had a big air force with Carriers and Void rays but never attacked anything and allowed Solar to push his creep over 60% of the map and load up on spores. Once solar had lot's of Corrupters and some Broodlords he overpowered Zest.

Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 12 2017 22:58 GMT
#3560
He actually has a chance to get into GSL vs the world. He's one of the most popular players. sOs probably gets it though
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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