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No transgender / gender identity / gender equality talk in this fanclub please.
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
April 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#2721
I'm from Canada and play from EU all the time and I don't experience delay. Don't worry Scarlett, you just showed greater skills.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 19 2012 22:00 GMT
#2722
On April 20 2012 06:46 enecateReAP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 06:41 Starshaped wrote:
I can only imagine how difficult ZvZ would be with delay.

Anyway, did Scarlett 14gas/14pool both games? didn't catch the openings. What did Phoenix do?


There is no delay from EU to NA, I'm high masters on both for context.

There is always delay, also within europe.
The question is just how much.
Off-season = best season
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
April 19 2012 22:06 GMT
#2723
On April 20 2012 06:38 Scarlett` wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330618&currentpage=4#74

Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 06:37 Scarlett` wrote:
I had unfair advantage because of he was playing from EU... I should have been but I got assigned to play without them making sure I had EU client (and it would have taken 18 hours to download). Was looking into relocalizer and then they said Phoenix will play on NA server. (I hope it was by his choice/agreement)

Should have used a different Eclypsia player instead I think



You're so manner. :> It's unfortunate that your first victory on Eclypsia may feel a bit hollow because of that, but you were able to show great games against Terious and Oz on a completely even playing field at Vegas, and game 2 vs Phoenix was almost pure decision making and macro rather than micro, so I don't think cross server lag delegitimizes your victory to any real extent. Just keep fighting and show everyone your true skills in every match!
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
gape.ninja
Profile Joined April 2011
Japan249 Posts
April 19 2012 22:32 GMT
#2724
Fell asleep and missed the games noo TT
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
April 19 2012 22:34 GMT
#2725
Kind of weird that people are complaining that Phoenix had to play with lag, when Scarlett would've had to if the account stuff was figured out ahead of time. It didn't really even seem like much in the games was decided by things that lag would affect, but I guess being thrown off can mess with your head, I don't know.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
April 19 2012 22:39 GMT
#2726
On April 20 2012 07:34 corpuscle wrote:
Kind of weird that people are complaining that Phoenix had to play with lag, when Scarlett would've had to if the account stuff was figured out ahead of time. It didn't really even seem like much in the games was decided by things that lag would affect, but I guess being thrown off can mess with your head, I don't know.


Well the match was scheduled for EU between two EU teams and planned to be played on the EU server; Eclypsia sent Scarlett out with the assumption that she would have an EU account.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
aRRoSC2
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 23:02:26
April 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#2727
On April 20 2012 06:46 enecateReAP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 06:41 Starshaped wrote:
I can only imagine how difficult ZvZ would be with delay.

Anyway, did Scarlett 14gas/14pool both games? didn't catch the openings. What did Phoenix do?


There is no delay from EU to NA, I'm high masters on both for context.


I disagree, sometimes I can play on NA and not feel lag, but other times it has quite a high latency (usually when I get a ZvZ haha). I guess it depends on where you're from and your ISP though (although I don't have problems otherwise). That said I'm not trying to say Scarlett didn't deserve the wins, but it's hard to tell how much latency PhoeNix had.

I sadly didn't catch the games though, and I can't seem to find the VODs on that eclypsia own3d channel. I'm not very familiar with own3d though, so it could be I just don't know where to look.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
April 19 2012 23:08 GMT
#2728
It's possible he had some latency, but at least in game 2, that game was not won on intense micro. Scarlett just had better decision making. She used her speedlings to delay natural mining until her own was up to catch up from opening 14/14 against hatch first, then just rolled over him with more roaches.
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 01:49:03
April 19 2012 23:12 GMT
#2729
Hey zzoram, SHE might have had some latency problem but I hope you direct HER the right way. Scarlett fighting!

-edit-
my bad, misread.
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2386 Posts
April 19 2012 23:13 GMT
#2730
On April 20 2012 08:12 Forgottenfrog wrote:
Hey zzoram, SHE might have had some latency problem but I hope you direct HER the right way. Scarlett fighting!

he talking about phoenix (who played NA server from Germany ~~)
Progamer
TheStrangerOne
Profile Joined November 2011
United States12 Posts
April 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#2731
Sign me up
"Real Men Drill Deep"
Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
April 20 2012 01:30 GMT
#2732
On April 20 2012 05:38 SaintBadger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 05:19 Geos13 wrote:


I say let her do what she wants as she knows what is best for herself. Playing a 5 game show match isn't going to be detrimental to her ability to compete with other pros. If she does well at MLG and beats pros in clan wars(such as the current match against Phoenix) then she will be successful regardless. There seems to be a culture of support among female gamers and it is nice to see Scarlett help promote their scene now that she has broken through.



The match is certainly not going to affect her ability, but I'm speaking more along the lines of public perception. Aphrodite is probably the only other even remotely close example, but she was fairly quickly relegated to novelty girl gamer when she clearly wanted to be more. Scarlett seems to be a much better player, but it's an issue of legitimacy in the eyes of sponsors and tournament hosts. We want her to be one of the best and have people know it, rather than have people think of her as one of the best women. Like I said, any exposure is good exposure to an extent, but this shouldn't end up being a habit. If she annihalates Aurora as we all expect, hopefully there will be no more gimick matches.

I know it's tempting to just say eff what people think, but in reality, this sort of thing will end up determining how seriously she is taken. The female support system is definitely powerful, but I imagine they feel the same way I do when they see the sort of "who's the best girl gamer" gimick.

Again, no big deal at this point. Just something to keep in mind when promoting events in the future.


Who relegated Aphrodite to a novelty girl gamer? She receives relatively the same level of attention as any other Korean code B player(not much). If Aphrodite makes it through the code A qualifiers or makes deeps runs in the Korean weeklys I'm sure she will get the attention she will have earned. (Aphrodite seems cool but it is hard to distinguish yourself in Korea). Having good publicity might help catch some extra invitations to closed tournaments/showmatches but most tournaments still have open brackets and legitimate contenders(like Scarlett) can make their name there.

Anyways as you said no big deal, I'm sure she will do fine whatever approach she chooses.
Yst
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada70 Posts
April 20 2012 04:00 GMT
#2733
No VOD available for Scarlett's Eclypsia Coliseum game, is there?
TheLastTemplar
Profile Joined February 2012
Iceland593 Posts
April 20 2012 04:02 GMT
#2734
missed the game =/
ladadidadi
Eclypsia
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom117 Posts
April 20 2012 06:20 GMT
#2735
On April 20 2012 13:00 Yst wrote:
No VOD available for Scarlett's Eclypsia Coliseum game, is there?


VOD soon.
PlagueWasp
Profile Joined April 2012
United States216 Posts
April 20 2012 07:58 GMT
#2736
Happy to see that Scarlett ended up winning 2-0.
Rainbow Cuddles
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 08:04:20
April 20 2012 08:03 GMT
#2737
On April 20 2012 16:58 PlagueWasp wrote:
Happy to see that Scarlett ended up winning 2-0.


I don't think we expected anything but that. Scarlett out micro'd & meta'd her very well imo.
enecateReAP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom378 Posts
April 20 2012 10:39 GMT
#2738
On April 20 2012 06:38 Scarlett` wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330618&currentpage=4#74

Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 06:37 Scarlett` wrote:
I had unfair advantage because of he was playing from EU... I should have been but I got assigned to play without them making sure I had EU client (and it would have taken 18 hours to download). Was looking into relocalizer and then they said Phoenix will play on NA server. (I hope it was by his choice/agreement)

Should have used a different Eclypsia player instead I think



Don't be modest Scarlett, there is no lag from EU to NA, trust me ^.^ The ping is 187 which isn't noticable at all in RTS games.
"Stargate units imba" - oGsMC
clayn
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany444 Posts
April 20 2012 10:41 GMT
#2739
On April 20 2012 19:39 enecateReAP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 06:38 Scarlett` wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330618&currentpage=4#74

On April 20 2012 06:37 Scarlett` wrote:
I had unfair advantage because of he was playing from EU... I should have been but I got assigned to play without them making sure I had EU client (and it would have taken 18 hours to download). Was looking into relocalizer and then they said Phoenix will play on NA server. (I hope it was by his choice/agreement)

Should have used a different Eclypsia player instead I think



Don't be modest Scarlett, there is no lag from EU to NA, trust me ^.^ The ping is 187 which isn't noticable at all in RTS games.

Still depends on how good your connection is .
tReaper
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia90 Posts
April 20 2012 13:12 GMT
#2740
On April 20 2012 15:20 Eclypsia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 13:00 Yst wrote:
No VOD available for Scarlett's Eclypsia Coliseum game, is there?


VOD soon.



This makes me happy Thanks Eclypsia. ♥
Treat others the way you would like to be treated yourself. ^_^
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