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Yo Cosmic what do you think? I'm feeling pretty good about this group
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catplanetcatplanet
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+ Show Spoiler + August 31 (final UD group) StarTale_Life Azuba.viOlet FnaticRC.Oz SlayerS'Ryung Quantic'StC Yo Cosmic what do you think? I'm feeling pretty good about this group | ||
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Sumahi
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CosmicSpiral
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Now let's take a look at the matches: Life vs Ryung (Entombed Valley) Life vs TheStC (Daybreak) Life vs Oz (Atlantis Spaceship) Life vs Violet (Entombed Valley) Life has two main advantages in this group: he has not been downloaded yet since he has not been considered a major threat, and he has so many builds he can use to mindgame his opponents. The largest disadvantage is a lack of experience in Up-and-Downs, which are extremely stressful and can fuck with your head. I know he is good at mindgames, not too sure about his mental fortitude. Ryung's lategame is pretty odd: cloaked ghost harass with nukes alongside a slow transition into bio-raven. Although it will probably become the standard in the future, no one quite know how to deal with it now. It's very hard to deal with from a multitasking viewpoint. Life's best plan is to delay all expansions past the 3rd as long as possible through any means other than sacrificing his army. Burrowed lings, overlord creep, posturing outside of the base, whatever. Luckily his usual 4 base hive build is made to pressure as soon as ultralisk/BLs are out. But Entombed is a large map and drops are a given in the late game. Let's not forget the recent rise in midgame bio attacks on this map when the positions are close. The advantage will depend on the spawning positions: Life if it's close, Ryung if it's far. TheStC is somewhat shaky in TvZ but he has a superb lifetime record against Life. The psychological advantage might be too much, and the map doesn't give Life much leeway either. Yet TheStC is slumping hard in TvZ at the moment. It's even. Taking into account Life's hate of ZvP and Oz's resurgence in the matchup, Oz ought to be favored to win this game. However neither of them have a long history on this map; combined, they only have played 11 games. Notably Oz has lost his last three games on Atlantis Spaceship against all three races. Also take into account that Life has a +60% winrate in his most disliked matchup. Atlantis seems to be the ideal map for Oz to use his quick third build, and if this happens the game will hinge on Life's response to it. Stephano roach-max can crush the third but given that Life likes fast lair and late roach warren, he won't be able to punish if he doesn't scout it immediately. Alternatively Life could just do another speedling/nydus all-in since that build beats Oz's build clean. Slightly favor Oz. Life will almost always go 2 base muta on Entombed Valley, which is pretty intelligent considering the dimensions of the map. It is very hard to defend the third with pure queen/spore and the attack pathways are really easy to cover with overlords. Either Violet will be forced to turtle with infestors (which is not the counter to this style and might die to 3 base +1 missile/roach speed timing, which looks exactly the same as 2 base mutalisk), go mutalisk himself, all-in with roach/bane off 2 bases (which never works against Life), or throw a Hail Mary nydus worm like Losira did in the TSL qualifier. These options will also be limited by the spawning positions. 2 base roach/bane all-in sucks ass in 9-5 positions (and is extremely predictable in close air positions) while infestor turtle allows an easy fourth in 9-5 positions. Either way his options will be extremely limited and Life is favored. Overall one must always doubt the newcomer in an Up-and-Down match. But there have been exceptions in the past, and Life could be one in the future. | ||
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catplanetcatplanet
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Stupid ipad without autocorrect on | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On August 23 2012 03:59 catplanetcatplanet wrote: Awesome analysis, but i dont see much of a PvZ resurgence for Oz. His recent record is a bo1 win over Sniper, a bo1 loss to CoCa, a win over YuGiOh on an unfamiliar map, and 2-0ing an unknown JKS. But i havent seen the games so maybe i missed something. Stupid ipad without autocorrect on He's won every single BoX versus zerg since April with the exception of a 0-2 loss to DRG at MLG Spring Championship. | ||
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catplanetcatplanet
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On August 23 2012 04:22 CosmicSpiral wrote: He's won every single BoX versus zerg since April with the exception of a 0-2 loss to DRG at MLG Spring Championship. I was just about to say oh wait mlg | ||
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CosmicSpiral
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On August 23 2012 04:24 catplanetcatplanet wrote: I was just about to say oh wait mlg Not to mention Oz was always considered mediocre at PvZ before April. | ||
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Btw sign me up pls, been a fan forever. | ||
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