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On July 18 2012 10:40 mierin wrote: I really want to see Stephano go to Korea, take it seriously, and be a contender for the GSL championship. If I were in his shoes (with all that talent and relatively low practice time compared to other pros) I know I'd do the easy thing and squeak by with the least amount of effort possible, but here's hoping he chooses a different path.
How awesome would it be if JD got team 8 to sign stephano? JD + stephano constant practice...that's what I'm talking about.
Exactly. I don't want to see Stephano pull a Han Solo and take his all his earnings he made from playing and go use to to help fund medical school.
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On July 18 2012 10:50 FeUerFlieGe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 10:40 mierin wrote: I really want to see Stephano go to Korea, take it seriously, and be a contender for the GSL championship. If I were in his shoes (with all that talent and relatively low practice time compared to other pros) I know I'd do the easy thing and squeak by with the least amount of effort possible, but here's hoping he chooses a different path.
How awesome would it be if JD got team 8 to sign stephano? JD + stephano constant practice...that's what I'm talking about. Exactly. I don't want to see Stephano pull a Han Solo and take his all his earnings he made from playing and go use to to help fund medical school.
Well that will happend for sure. Stephano is not gonna be a professional pro gamer until he is 30. He will be in the scene a few years and thats how it will be. As a fan just enjoy the moment he is here becuase it wont be long until he will retire and get an education
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353742
check this interview out and you will get a deeper understanding about Stephano
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On July 18 2012 10:35 Benjamin99 wrote:![[image loading]](https://p.twimg.com/AyC67_gCAAAqrsw.jpg:large) Stephano and lauren
So cute . . . and what nice lighting.
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well, listening to his WCS.fr interview i am now convinced he's definitely going to EG his comment on the gaming houses he tried really sold it
unless the third team is mouz, where i believe he has friends, but i'm not sure about their gaming house
this gives me mixed feelings, it might be great for him ... if he can overcome EG curse :D
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Stephano, the best foreigner, according to the majority! :D
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On July 18 2012 08:19 Azarkon wrote: EG has different standards for their players and casters.
But no, that joke won't fly in the US. Germany is worse, however, and that's where Mouz is. I don't think Mouz is going to hire Stephano after what he said to Hasu. Yes, it was in jest, but Anti-Semitism is a huge taboo in Germany and they won't want to a player who's joked about it in the past.
Having grown up in Germany I can tell you that you can joke about stuff like if you're friends with the person. It's no big deal. If Mouz had the opportunity to recruit Stephano I doubt a joke between friends would affect the decision.
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oTUXD.jpg)
I failed to find this in the thread. So I'll just leave it here. Sorry if it has been posted somewhere in here already.
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AWESOME picture! Overlords are filthy so I understand why he went on it instead of inside it. and DOUDOU come on there's no EG curse, especially right now their players are doing really well (besides players like LzGamer of course) and they even began to perform in team leagues!
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Did anyone here listen to ITG yesterday ?
Even if they say they don't want to undermine Stephano winning, it surely look like it, saying that the NASL map pool and the current balance of the game are the main factor of his victory. I don't remember "commentator" (idra / incontrol) saying this sort of thing when MVP and other Terran were winning every tournament with ghost and gold base.
I agree that balance and map pool, like bracket, and random luck help you to win tournament, it's the same in every discipline, IE some tennis player are better on that surface, some on other, and if you happen to be on one side of the bracket with less top 3 player, you got better chance of going deep in the bracket, and even with a correct seeding the 100th player of the international ranking can beat (rarely) one of the top 3 player.
DJWheat even say that stephano's result was on a roller-coaster lately. I don't understand why people expect any player to win every tournament they enter, it's just not realistic, even for the best of them. Loosing to Sase and Mana in the final phase of a tournament is clearly not what we expect from stephano, but it happens, and saying that it's only stephano fault(playing bad) undermine the other player performance too.
If we can say one thing about stephano, it's that, more than any other player, he go deep in every event he play. (when he don't forfeit). I really think he is doing exceptionally well, better than anybody else in the scene actually.
It looks like people are upset that he win again, and at the same time expecting him to win everything.
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On July 18 2012 18:46 zedrOne wrote: Did anyone here listen to ITG yesterday ?
Even if they say they don't want to undermine Stephano winning, it surely look like it, saying that the NASL map pool and the current balance of the game are the main factor of his victory. I don't remember "commentator" (idra / incontrol) saying this sort of thing when MVP and other Terran were winning every tournament with ghost and gold base.
I agree that balance and map pool, like bracket, and random luck help you to win tournament, it's the same in every discipline, IE some tennis player are better on that surface, some on other, and if you happen to be on one side of the bracket with less top 3 player, you got better chance of going deep in the bracket, and even with a correct seeding the 100th player of the international ranking can beat (rarely) one of the top 3 player.
DJWheat even say that stephano's result was on a roller-coaster lately. I don't understand why people expect any player to win every tournament they enter, it's just not realistic, even for the best of them. Loosing to Sase and Mana in the final phase of a tournament is clearly not what we expect from stephano, but it happens, and saying that it's only stephano fault(playing bad) undermine the other player performance too.
If we can say one thing about stephano, it's that, more than any other player, he go deep in every event he play. (when he don't forfeit). I really think he is doing exceptionally well, better than anybody else in the scene actually.
It looks like people are upset that he win again, and at the same time expecting him to win everything.
Well, its not a balance issue, its just that Stephano has the best PvZ or the second best with DRG
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Remember when IdrA jokingly proposed, that Zergs are the better players and after 2 years of other races being favoured and Zergs having to work much harder, now that the game is perfectly balanced they just sprint way ahead? He was laughing but we could see the honesty in his eyes.
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The most consistent player in SC2 in 2012 is DRG, this is reflected in DRG winning the most prize money in 2012, a whopping $104,000. The second most consistent player in 2012 is MC, who has won second most prize money in 2012, an amazing $85,000. MC has won more career prize money in SC2 than anyone else ($314,000), so he has been the most consistent player in SC2's short history. Both DRG and MC have been models of consistency in 2012 and due to this are regarded the major contenders in every tournament they enter and are also regarded as the very best players in the World.
Stephano is now the third highest SC2 prize money winner in 2012 on an incredible $83,000. His wins at NASL 3 and France Nationals, although his first LAN wins in a few months, are just a continuation of the excellent form and consistency that Stephano has shown in tournaments in 2012. Stephano placed joint 5th at IPL4 in April 2012 and questioned whether this was a success or not. In mid April he announced he would continue his SC2 career beyond the summer. Since then he has had impressive performances in TakeTV Reloaded, MLG Spring Arena 2 EU Qualifiers, MLG Spring Arena 2, Red Bull Battlegrounds, MLG Spring Championship, DreamHack Summer, WCS France Nationals and now NASL 3. He has looked a strong contender in every single LAN tournament he entered in that period. A remarkable show of consistency that has been capped by dominating performances on the way to back to back LAN triumphs in WCS France and NASL 3. Stephano's 'activities' now include winning LANs again!
When looking at career winnings, Stephano is placed at 7th highest at an incredible $160,000. This has been achieved despite being a Pro for less than a year! Stephano only graduated from school last July! So achieving so much so quickly puts into context how consistent Stephano has been as a Pro-gamer. He is amassing prize money at an incredible rate matched only by very few others. If you compare him to other Foreign Pro-gamers, Stephano has won almost $90,000 more than Huk, who is the next highest Foreign Pro in aggregated prize money. Stephano has now won more money in 2012 alone, than every other Foreign Pro-gamer has won in their entire careers!
If you consider also that Stephano does not follow the conventional wisdom of extremely hard preparation as a springboard to his success, then it makes it clear Stephano has a rare and instinctual talent at this game. He is very fortunate to be so blessed with such talent at a particular computer game at a particular time that he is able to translate this ability into money. Lots and lots of money! Stephano wins at SC2 games and thus wins lots of money. A simple but effective formula to begin forging a Legend.
As Polt said, Stephano is a genius. Jaedong loves Stephano, and so do many!
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On July 18 2012 16:34 nShade wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oTUXD.jpg) I failed to find this in the thread. So I'll just leave it here. Sorry if it has been posted somewhere in here already. wow awesome pic :D
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@revel8
yes, but some still think he is on a rollercoaster preformance wise, or going in a "slump". Maybe the fact that he is a genius is what make so many people hate him. nobody like to be remind that he is an underling, and when stephano play, almost everybody look like an underling.
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zedrOne do you have a link to the ITG ?
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Demuslim did imply that the queen change wasn't the thing that help Stephano that much vT. And as we all know Stephano always says that making a shitload of queens "doesnt work". He only does it in desperation when there're banshees on the field. As for the rest, with a braket full of vP, of course you can expect Stephano to win. I don't really agree wih Weat about the roller coster thing, as he actually ranked pretty high on most of the tournaments he's done.
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On July 18 2012 16:34 nShade wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oTUXD.jpg) I failed to find this in the thread. So I'll just leave it here. Sorry if it has been posted somewhere in here already.
WOW this picture is really awesome and could be easily used for an ad o_o !!!
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On July 18 2012 18:46 zedrOne wrote: Did anyone here listen to ITG yesterday ?
Even if they say they don't want to undermine Stephano winning, it surely look like it, saying that the NASL map pool and the current balance of the game are the main factor of his victory. I don't remember "commentator" (idra / incontrol) saying this sort of thing when MVP and other Terran were winning every tournament with ghost and gold base.
I agree that balance and map pool, like bracket, and random luck help you to win tournament, it's the same in every discipline, IE some tennis player are better on that surface, some on other, and if you happen to be on one side of the bracket with less top 3 player, you got better chance of going deep in the bracket, and even with a correct seeding the 100th player of the international ranking can beat (rarely) one of the top 3 player.
DJWheat even say that stephano's result was on a roller-coaster lately. I don't understand why people expect any player to win every tournament they enter, it's just not realistic, even for the best of them. Loosing to Sase and Mana in the final phase of a tournament is clearly not what we expect from stephano, but it happens, and saying that it's only stephano fault(playing bad) undermine the other player performance too.
If we can say one thing about stephano, it's that, more than any other player, he go deep in every event he play. (when he don't forfeit). I really think he is doing exceptionally well, better than anybody else in the scene actually.
It looks like people are upset that he win again, and at the same time expecting him to win everything.
Did he really say that Stephano's result was on a roller-coaster lately? Cause if this is true this is one of the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Except DRG or MC i don't think of a worst example of "roller-coaster results". He is the definition of consistency... Just look at his results in LAN... You could say that he could have done better if he (did not drink during event/did not underestimate his non-korean opponents/did not forfeit/put much effort in his ZvZ) but saying that he has roller-coaster results say more about DJWheat than Stephano..
Regarding the mappool and the state of the PvZ as the main factor of his victory it is less stupid but the word "main" is clearly out of place. Stephano had a little edge with this mappool and would have had a harder time versus ZvZ specialists but I don't know many players who win big tournaments by sheer dominance only.. If the mappool and the state of PvZ was the "main" factor of someone victory, Ret would not have lost versus Alicia and would not have been 0-4 by MC...
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On July 18 2012 19:35 Kuni wrote: Remember when IdrA jokingly proposed, that Zergs are the better players and after 2 years of other races being favoured and Zergs having to work much harder, now that the game is perfectly balanced they just sprint way ahead? He was laughing but we could see the honesty in his eyes.
Ironically Zerg is at an all time high meta game wise and Idra is performing worse than ever and yet he is still so condescending about other players e.g. Fitzy who he called "not a real player".
Idra is pretty good if somewhat dry caster though.
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ITG link. they start with nasl.
To be clear, i dont say that to charge on Wheat or Demuslim. I just find that for lot of people, when it comes to stephano, it's either "looking for excuse' (for loosing or winning), blind hate (french site mainly, jealousies ? ), or brainless love for some.
Like revel8 say in his post, the guy is a genius, like it or not, his result are amazing.
Efren Reyes in Billard (pool), Stu Ungar in poker, R. Federer in Tennis, this are all guy who were (still are for some) so much in advance to their time, people that win without the same amount of practice of the other, IMO Stephano is from the same seed, sadly we may notice that only when he retire. As he stated from the start that he will not stay forever in progamming, let's enjoy the show as long as it last !
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