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hyperdemented
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria372 Posts
July 16 2012 01:55 GMT
#8221
shit i missed it

are/will there be vods available? or do you need nasl subscription?
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
July 16 2012 01:57 GMT
#8222
On July 16 2012 10:53 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 10:51 xeo1 wrote:
WHAT was the song when stephano won and was sprayed with champagne?? it was like tututu tu tutu


It was a dance remix of Midnight City by M83


THXX THIS IS IT:D
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
July 16 2012 01:57 GMT
#8223
The only zerg who is better than Stephano now is DRG.
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 16 2012 01:57 GMT
#8224
On July 16 2012 10:55 hyperdemented wrote:
shit i missed it

are/will there be vods available? or do you need nasl subscription?


You need subscription or els check youtupe in some days.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
July 16 2012 02:00 GMT
#8225
On July 16 2012 10:33 Vanidar wrote:
I think that Stephano is the most amazing player around. SIGN ME UP! :D

(French in spoiler)
+ Show Spoiler +
Je pense que Stephano est le plus amazant SC2 joeuer excellent.


Your french is almost as bad as my english but it's nice to see someone trying
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
July 16 2012 02:00 GMT
#8226
On July 16 2012 10:57 Lewan72 wrote:
The only zerg who is better than Stephano now is DRG.


I'm not even convinced DRG is better man. I think especially if Stephano starts training hard he will certainly be better than DRG if he isn't already
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
July 16 2012 02:05 GMT
#8227
On July 16 2012 11:00 Seldentar wrote:
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On July 16 2012 10:57 Lewan72 wrote:
The only zerg who is better than Stephano now is DRG.


I'm not even convinced DRG is better man. I think especially if Stephano starts training hard he will certainly be better than DRG if he isn't already


Stephano might be more talented but there is no doubt DRG is bettr than Stephano now. DRG is just more complete in every match-ups. He is the best ZvT and his ZvP is as good as Stephano's one. DRG is the best player on the planet i think.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
vRadiatioNv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
July 16 2012 02:06 GMT
#8228
On July 16 2012 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
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On July 16 2012 10:39 NevaN wrote:
@azarkon- enough with you man, why not you play against him? This time looking at floating minerals when he is just saving it, go win NASL for yourself then you are worthy to be listened too. . .Who are you to question a champion's game when he does win the tournament. You seemed to be indicating to be the better player by over knowing a flaw of someone who just wins a tournament right at the moment. Im not saying he does a perfect game but can you name someone with a perfect game? Stephano does have flaws but MC,Hero,and alicia did more errors or bad decisions thats why they lost. Reflect on that and assess your opinions before deving on here.


No, he was not saving minerals. He ended up with ~170/200 supply after the 'remax.' You know he wanted 200/200 during that remax, but wasn't able to hit it because he was larvae starved, which happened because he didn't make an extra hatchery when his resource income started spiking up.

Fanboyism is not seeing that he made a mistake and supporting him whatever he does. There is a lot of room for improvement in his mechanics, but he wins because he has better engagements and decision making than other Zergs, including the bulk of Korean ones. With better mechanics, he is able to take that further and reach a level no other Zerg has reached before.

You realise that if he had that many hatcheries and larva he could only support 1 reinforcement? Once those resources are drained having that many hatcheries would prove to be inefficient. You cant support that many hatcheries. The reason he's floating resources is because he maxes and then builds the bank. The amount of hatcheries he has perfectly matches his income. In fact, usually he has TOO MANY larvae (hence, 120 zerglings built at once in a recent game). If his reinforcements die he doesn't want to end with 0 money in the bank and 900+ resources worth of macro hatches.
zorbitron
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14 Posts
July 16 2012 02:08 GMT
#8229
I just got home from the NASL Toronto finals... serious question... is Stephano beatable?
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
July 16 2012 02:11 GMT
#8230
just GG, my god
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Chytilova
Profile Joined December 2011
United States790 Posts
July 16 2012 02:11 GMT
#8231
On July 16 2012 10:46 nttea wrote:
If you think Stephano is good you should see future Stephano.


Future Stephano goes to medical school.
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
July 16 2012 02:15 GMT
#8232
Congrats Stephano!! Well played.
whereismymind
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom717 Posts
July 16 2012 02:15 GMT
#8233
He will probably postpone his uni for 1 more year, come on... who wouldn't ? $160.000 in 10 months? He would be crazy if he just left with great talent and chance to earn so much.
one day.. i'll lose my mind
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 02:19:19
July 16 2012 02:18 GMT
#8234
On July 16 2012 11:06 vRadiatioNv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On July 16 2012 10:39 NevaN wrote:
@azarkon- enough with you man, why not you play against him? This time looking at floating minerals when he is just saving it, go win NASL for yourself then you are worthy to be listened too. . .Who are you to question a champion's game when he does win the tournament. You seemed to be indicating to be the better player by over knowing a flaw of someone who just wins a tournament right at the moment. Im not saying he does a perfect game but can you name someone with a perfect game? Stephano does have flaws but MC,Hero,and alicia did more errors or bad decisions thats why they lost. Reflect on that and assess your opinions before deving on here.


No, he was not saving minerals. He ended up with ~170/200 supply after the 'remax.' You know he wanted 200/200 during that remax, but wasn't able to hit it because he was larvae starved, which happened because he didn't make an extra hatchery when his resource income started spiking up.

Fanboyism is not seeing that he made a mistake and supporting him whatever he does. There is a lot of room for improvement in his mechanics, but he wins because he has better engagements and decision making than other Zergs, including the bulk of Korean ones. With better mechanics, he is able to take that further and reach a level no other Zerg has reached before.

You realise that if he had that many hatcheries and larva he could only support 1 reinforcement? Once those resources are drained having that many hatcheries would prove to be inefficient. You cant support that many hatcheries. The reason he's floating resources is because he maxes and then builds the bank. The amount of hatcheries he has perfectly matches his income. In fact, usually he has TOO MANY larvae (hence, 120 zerglings built at once in a recent game). If his reinforcements die he doesn't want to end with 0 money in the bank and 900+ resources worth of macro hatches.


An extra hatchery is 350 minerals. He was floating 1500+...
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
July 16 2012 02:18 GMT
#8235
On July 16 2012 10:28 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Stephano the first sc2 bonjour, grats!


/thread
BatCat
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Austria630 Posts
July 16 2012 02:19 GMT
#8236
On July 16 2012 10:34 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 10:27 BatCat wrote:
On July 16 2012 10:24 Azarkon wrote:
On July 16 2012 10:19 NevaN wrote:
@azarkon- say something man 4-0ed alicia, crushes Mc, destroys Hero a who's who upon the top contenders of the starcraft 2 scene. He is still good in his games. We know u have clear eyes to see how was that, hope your not blinded blinded by your own critical opinions.


The high mark of this tournament for Stephano was when he defeated HerO and MC back to back yesterday. Against Alicia, it was dangerous because of Alicia's ability to make great two base attacks, but Alicia ended up succumbing to nerves, playing bad, and being a walkover. HerO and MC are bigger wins by far and shows that his switch to ling heavy over roach heavy is perfect for the present meta-game.

His mechanics are still questionable, however. The third game he was floating 1500 minerals without enough larvae to remax after he lost his army to the colossi push. A better Protoss would have punished him for that, and I don't know why he didn't make a macro hatch with those minerals.


Although I respect your opinion and even more so your courage for posting criticism in Stephanos fanclub, you will always find mistakes when you want to. That's because the players are human (although that's sometimes hard to grasp :p).
Stephano isn't worse than other players or undeserving, just because he too is human.


Of course. I never said that Stephano was undeserving or worse than other players. I said that I saw a decline in his play prior to this tournament, and that this makes me worried about whether he's going into a slump. It's a legitimate worry given what he showed in the last two months. But then what he ended up showing is that he didn't work on ZvZ because he was working on ZvP. I still do think his ZvZ needs a lot of work, and that he has a lot of room for improvement in his mechanics. Imagine having enough larvae to spend all his resources after losing his army. Nobody is going to beat him then.


Well, in the end it isn't a slump and he's doing fine :-) And while criticism is the most important ingredient to improvement, this only applies if it reaches Stephano. And I don't know whether a fan club is the best place for that.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
vRadiatioNv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
July 16 2012 02:20 GMT
#8237
On July 16 2012 11:18 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 11:06 vRadiatioNv wrote:
On July 16 2012 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On July 16 2012 10:39 NevaN wrote:
@azarkon- enough with you man, why not you play against him? This time looking at floating minerals when he is just saving it, go win NASL for yourself then you are worthy to be listened too. . .Who are you to question a champion's game when he does win the tournament. You seemed to be indicating to be the better player by over knowing a flaw of someone who just wins a tournament right at the moment. Im not saying he does a perfect game but can you name someone with a perfect game? Stephano does have flaws but MC,Hero,and alicia did more errors or bad decisions thats why they lost. Reflect on that and assess your opinions before deving on here.


No, he was not saving minerals. He ended up with ~170/200 supply after the 'remax.' You know he wanted 200/200 during that remax, but wasn't able to hit it because he was larvae starved, which happened because he didn't make an extra hatchery when his resource income started spiking up.

Fanboyism is not seeing that he made a mistake and supporting him whatever he does. There is a lot of room for improvement in his mechanics, but he wins because he has better engagements and decision making than other Zergs, including the bulk of Korean ones. With better mechanics, he is able to take that further and reach a level no other Zerg has reached before.

You realise that if he had that many hatcheries and larva he could only support 1 reinforcement? Once those resources are drained having that many hatcheries would prove to be inefficient. You cant support that many hatcheries. The reason he's floating resources is because he maxes and then builds the bank. The amount of hatcheries he has perfectly matches his income. In fact, usually he has TOO MANY larvae (hence, 120 zerglings built at once in a recent game). If his reinforcements die he doesn't want to end with 0 money in the bank and 900+ resources worth of macro hatches.


An extra hatchery is 350 minerals. He was floating 1500+...

Aaaand he doesn't have enough economy to support more hatches. What aren't you understanding?
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
July 16 2012 02:21 GMT
#8238
Congrats to Stephano! Hail to the NASL Champion!

So happy right now!


Winning $30,000 in style and then making NASL 3 dance!

Dat Slump!

Long may it continue.





revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
July 16 2012 02:25 GMT
#8239
On July 16 2012 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 10:39 NevaN wrote:
@azarkon- enough with you man, why not you play against him? This time looking at floating minerals when he is just saving it, go win NASL for yourself then you are worthy to be listened too. . .Who are you to question a champion's game when he does win the tournament. You seemed to be indicating to be the better player by over knowing a flaw of someone who just wins a tournament right at the moment. Im not saying he does a perfect game but can you name someone with a perfect game? Stephano does have flaws but MC,Hero,and alicia did more errors or bad decisions thats why they lost. Reflect on that and assess your opinions before deving on here.


No, he was not saving minerals. He ended up with ~170/200 supply after the 'remax.' You know he wanted 200/200 during that remax, but wasn't able to hit it because he was larvae starved, which happened because he didn't make an extra hatchery when his resource income started spiking up.

Fanboyism is not seeing that he made a mistake and supporting him whatever he does. There is a lot of room for improvement in his mechanics, but he wins because he has better engagements and decision making than other Zergs, including the bulk of Korean ones. With better mechanics, he is able to take that further and reach a level no other Zerg has reached before.


At some point, you should just relax and congratulate Stephano for winning.

Overly critical is overly critical. Winning is better than whining.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 02:28:12
July 16 2012 02:27 GMT
#8240
On July 16 2012 11:20 vRadiatioNv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 11:18 Azarkon wrote:
On July 16 2012 11:06 vRadiatioNv wrote:
On July 16 2012 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On July 16 2012 10:39 NevaN wrote:
@azarkon- enough with you man, why not you play against him? This time looking at floating minerals when he is just saving it, go win NASL for yourself then you are worthy to be listened too. . .Who are you to question a champion's game when he does win the tournament. You seemed to be indicating to be the better player by over knowing a flaw of someone who just wins a tournament right at the moment. Im not saying he does a perfect game but can you name someone with a perfect game? Stephano does have flaws but MC,Hero,and alicia did more errors or bad decisions thats why they lost. Reflect on that and assess your opinions before deving on here.


No, he was not saving minerals. He ended up with ~170/200 supply after the 'remax.' You know he wanted 200/200 during that remax, but wasn't able to hit it because he was larvae starved, which happened because he didn't make an extra hatchery when his resource income started spiking up.

Fanboyism is not seeing that he made a mistake and supporting him whatever he does. There is a lot of room for improvement in his mechanics, but he wins because he has better engagements and decision making than other Zergs, including the bulk of Korean ones. With better mechanics, he is able to take that further and reach a level no other Zerg has reached before.

You realise that if he had that many hatcheries and larva he could only support 1 reinforcement? Once those resources are drained having that many hatcheries would prove to be inefficient. You cant support that many hatcheries. The reason he's floating resources is because he maxes and then builds the bank. The amount of hatcheries he has perfectly matches his income. In fact, usually he has TOO MANY larvae (hence, 120 zerglings built at once in a recent game). If his reinforcements die he doesn't want to end with 0 money in the bank and 900+ resources worth of macro hatches.


An extra hatchery is 350 minerals. He was floating 1500+...

Aaaand he doesn't have enough economy to support more hatches. What aren't you understanding?


How does floating 1500+ minerals = not having enough economy to support the hatches?

Banking larvae is always a positive in the late game. It's the exact same logic for having extra gateways for a Protoss, and extra rax for a Terran. You never want to be in a situation where you have a lot of resources but not enough production to support them. Having extra production is a plus, not a negative, especially when you go lings, which are larvae heavy.

There are Zergs who never float resources until maxed, and who are able to hit higher unit counts at faster timings. I don't see why that's bad. Stephano himself has said that he has a lot to improve in his play - why think otherwise?
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