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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
I had to pick my jaw up...Incredible games. Great series and an epic finals if i ever saw one! GG | ||
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
On March 20 2012 03:14 Luepert wrote: I can honestly say polt vs stephano in both their meetups is by far the best starcraft I have ever seen played. Amen Brother, and the first time I truly laughed and enjoyed the "USA USA USA" meme. Lone Star Clash........ wins the award for greatest trolling in a live tournament. Was a great tournament, if Stephano can hold his own and win vs a GSL Champ, let's hope he decides to remain in gaming. | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
Ming Chul .... thats the next hurdle. Stephano surprised me, and himself I think, in how fast he got past the Polt problem. He has DRG (granted Bo1) and Polt.... a Z and T GSL Champion beaten on stage already. Now he just needs a head-to-head matchup with the Big Bad Protoss to have beaten a GSL champion of each type. I think that would be a SC2 foreigner first and perhaps even a SC2 first. How many people have beaten a GSL Champion of each race? Probably less than 5 even among the Koreans. It took Stephano 10-15 games to adjust to Polt's play.... he's played about 7 already with MC. | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/detailed-elo v1 Record: All: 446-209 (68.09%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L W W W W L W | View Games vT: 193-104 (64.98%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L W W L W W W W L W | View Games vZ: 106-49 (68.39%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W L L W W W | View Games vP: 147-56 (72.41%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L W W W W W W W W | View Games | ||
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:33 dsousa wrote: My next wish for Stephano is that he play a best of 3 or 5 vs MC. Ming Chul .... thats the next hurdle. Stephano surprised me, and himself I think, in how fast he got past the Polt problem. He has DRG (granted Bo1) and Polt.... a Z and T GSL Champion beaten on stage already. Now he just needs a head-to-head matchup with the Big Bad Protoss to have beaten a GSL champion of each type. I think that would be a SC2 foreigner first and perhaps even a SC2 first. How many people have beaten a GSL Champion of each race? Probably less than 5 even among the Koreans. It took Stephano 10-15 games to adjust to Polt's play.... he's played about 7 already with MC. This is actually as incorrect as it could possibly be. A lot of people have beaten a lot of GSL champions. He wouldn't even be the first foreigner. Of course its impressive, but this is pure overhyping. I wish good luck to Stephano for his next tournaments, he wil need it against the koreans! I want to see him play in GSL to see him competing at the vhighest level of play and see how good he really is...  | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:47 Tarotis wrote: This is actually as incorrect as it could possibly be. A lot of people have beaten a lot of GSL champions. He wouldn't even be the first foreigner. Of course its impressive, but this is pure overhyping. I wish good luck to Stephano for his next tournaments, he wil need it against the koreans! I want to see him play in GSL to see him competing at the vhighest level of play and see how good he really is... Who? On a live tournament stage? You have to dig into GSTL to find it no doubt on the KR side, and no foreigner has done it. Naniwa has not beaten MC, therefore he hasn't beaten a GSL champion of each race. | ||
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NewModel
Germany124 Posts
On March 30th, 2011, became the first person to beat NesTea in a televised ZvZ in StarCraft 2; beating the GSL 2 champion 2:1 in the GSL World Championship. Dimaga did it when nestea was THE zerg. | ||
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snam
Sweden78 Posts
On March 20 2012 05:08 dsousa wrote: Who? On a live tournament stage? You have to dig into GSTL to find it no doubt on the KR side, and no foreigner has done it. Naniwa has not beaten MC. Neither has Stephano. I think naniwa has beaten MC aswell as MVP and Nestea, im not entirely sure though | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1614&part=games&league=standard&vs=P#tblt-14384-3-1-DESC He lost to MC in a Bo3 at HSC3 EDIT: Nope... mis-read my bad. | ||
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On March 20 2012 05:08 dsousa wrote: Who? On a live tournament stage? You have to dig into GSTL to find it no doubt on the KR side, and no foreigner has done it. Naniwa has not beaten MC, therefore he hasn't beaten a GSL champion of each race. HuK has beaten GSL champions out of all races. MaNa already beat MC and DongRaeGu (and never played against most of the rest). Edit: HuK vs. MC HuK vs NesTea HuK vs. MMA | ||
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snam
Sweden78 Posts
On March 20 2012 05:17 dsousa wrote: Naniwa hasn't done it... never beaten MC, therefore never beaten a GSL Champion of each race. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1614&part=games&league=standard&vs=P#tblt-14384-3-1-DESC He lost to MC in a Bo3 at HSC3 I think many of you "fans" are guilty of under-hype :D Ill-informed under-hype - lmao :D according to your link he won that bo3 vs MC in HSC3.. or am i reading it wrong? | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On March 20 2012 05:17 dsousa wrote: Naniwa hasn't done it... never beaten MC, therefore never beaten a GSL Champion of each race. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1614&part=games&league=standard&vs=P#tblt-14384-3-1-DESC He lost to MC in a Bo3 at HSC3 I think many of you "fans" are guilty of under-hype :D Ill-informed under-hype - lmao :D naniwa beat MC at homestory cup #3 score was 2-1. also he did it after beating MC. ![[image loading]](http://h13.abload.de/img/ujak8ddkf.jpg) | ||
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On March 20 2012 05:19 snam wrote: according to your link he won that bo3 vs MC in HSC3.. or am i reading it wrong? Yes. Both NaNiwa and HuK defeated GSL champions off all races. MaNa nearly did and a lot of people are close. Only talking about foreigners of course, cba waiting my time talking about koreans  | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
He beat MMA 2-0, Nestea in a Bo1, and has beaten MC. I had forgotten the MMA match. EDIT: LOL@ME - total mis-read of my own link. ok and Naniwa has done it :D He beat MVP and Nestea at MLG's and MC as well. Clearly GSL Champions have been beaten left and right by foreigners! but who did it first? Huk was completed in November 2011 when he beat Nestea. I was wrong about the GSL Champion of each race achievement thing...but I still want Stephano vs MC! | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Naniwa beat MVP and Nestea in one of the Blizzcon Invitationals I think, but lost to MVP when they replayed. He's really got Nestea's number, though - he's beaten Nestea a number of times, the last time being the MLG PPV. Ret beat MVP in the last MLG, albeit a MVP with a wrist injury. HuK beat a number of GSL champions as well, though lately he's not been in good form, which is the reason his name has fallen by the way side. The issue with Naniwa is that he's had a really bad run in the GSL - going something like 1-12 in Code A and never managing to qualify without being seeded - that it's colored everything else he did. Numbers-wise he is the best foreigner when it comes to beating top GSL players, but because he did so bad in the GSL and because he doesn't attend a lot of tournaments he looks worse than he is. That said, the reason Stephano is the best foreigner right now is because of the number of tournaments he's taken and his sheer solidness vs. foreigners. Naniwa and Ret are both excellent players, but they haven't taken as many tournaments as Stephano has and they don't look as invincible, either. The way Stephano plays, the number of tournaments he wins, how well he adapts and makes decisions, is what makes him the best foreigner. Naniwa is not incapable of taking this spot, but the burden is on him to make it happen. | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On March 20 2012 05:25 Azarkon wrote: Naniwa and HuK have both beaten MC in PvP. Naniwa beat MVP and Nestea in one of the Blizzcon Invitationals I think, but lost to MVP when they replayed. He's really got Nestea's number, though - he's beaten Nestea a number of times, the last time being the MLG PPV. Ret beat MVP in the last MLG, albeit a MVP with a wrist injury. HuK beat a number of GSL champions as well, though lately he's not been in good form, which is the reason his name has fallen by the way side. The issue with Naniwa is that he's had a really bad run in the GSL - going something like 1-12 in Code A and never managing to qualify without being seeded - that it's colored everything else he did. Numbers-wise he is the best foreigner when it comes to beating top GSL players, but because he did so bad in the GSL and because he doesn't attend a lot of tournaments he looks worse than he is. That said, the reason Stephano is the best foreigner right now is because of the number of tournaments he's taken and his sheer solidness vs. foreigners. Naniwa and Ret are both excellent players, but they haven't taken as many tournaments as Stephano has and they don't look as invincible, either. The way Stephano plays, the number of tournaments he wins, how well he adapts and makes decisions, is what makes him the best foreigner. Naniwa is not incapable of taking this spot, but the burden is on him to make it happen. naniwa only played one time against Mvp and won 2-1. | ||
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Benjamin80
581 Posts
On March 20 2012 05:25 Azarkon wrote: Naniwa and HuK have both beaten MC in PvP. Naniwa beat MVP and Nestea in one of the Blizzcon Invitationals I think, but lost to MVP when they replayed. He's really got Nestea's number, though - he's beaten Nestea a number of times, the last time being the MLG PPV. Ret beat MVP in the last MLG, albeit a MVP with a wrist injury. HuK beat a number of GSL champions as well, though lately he's not been in good form, which is the reason his name has fallen by the way side. The issue with Naniwa is that he's had a really bad run in the GSL - going something like 1-12 in Code A and never managing to qualify without being seeded - that it's colored everything else he did. Numbers-wise he is the best foreigner when it comes to beating top GSL players, but because he did so bad in the GSL and because he doesn't attend a lot of tournaments he looks worse than he is. That said, the reason Stephano is the best foreigner right now is because of the number of tournaments he's taken and his sheer solidness vs. foreigners. Naniwa and Ret are both excellent players, but they haven't taken as many tournaments as Stephano has and they don't look as invincible, either. The way Stephano plays, the number of tournaments he wins, how well he adapts and makes decisions, is what makes him the best foreigner. You nailed it there. In a game as volatile as starcraft 2 Stephano is one of the few players who allways perform. His last 2 lan tournament he got 2nd and 1st thats is so impressive not to name the countless online tournament he also wins. The last 6 months Stephano has really started to dominate the foreign scene and the last 3 months has been pretty unreal. I dont think we will ever see a foreigner again who can do what Stephano has done since his amasing win at IPL 3. It´s really starting to look like stuff of legends | ||
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niuage
United States175 Posts
It would be such a shame if Stephano decided to stop playing. Wasted talent! | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On March 20 2012 05:32 dragonborn wrote: naniwa only played one time against Mvp and won 2-1. Hmm, I mis-remembered then. But yeah, TvP was MVP's worst MU and Naniwa understands it really well. | ||
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