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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
February 27 2013 18:35 GMT
#5161
Stop trying to confuse me Zealously...the IPTL match is today for me.
#TheOneTrueDong
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 27 2013 18:45 GMT
#5162
On February 28 2013 03:35 TommyP wrote:
Stop trying to confuse me Zealously...the IPTL match is today for me.


Americans -.-
AdministratorBreak the chains
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 27 2013 20:07 GMT
#5163
On February 28 2013 02:55 wammyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 10:41 opterown wrote:
On February 24 2013 02:19 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How is DRG top 10 GM in HotS when Zerg is so awful???!

because zerg really isn't that awful :p it's not doing well, but top 16 is fairly reasonable for one of the better zergs around

Not awful but pretty damn bad. Very impressive to be that high as a Zerg

Also after checking all the fan clubs I can confirm this is by far the best one. Congratz on making such a sick contribution to such a great player :D

no worse (probably better) than terran after queen patch
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 21:10:22
February 27 2013 20:14 GMT
#5164
On February 28 2013 05:07 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 02:55 wammyz wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:41 opterown wrote:
On February 24 2013 02:19 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How is DRG top 10 GM in HotS when Zerg is so awful???!

because zerg really isn't that awful :p it's not doing well, but top 16 is fairly reasonable for one of the better zergs around

Not awful but pretty damn bad. Very impressive to be that high as a Zerg

Also after checking all the fan clubs I can confirm this is by far the best one. Congratz on making such a sick contribution to such a great player :D

no worse (probably better) than terran after queen patch


the fuck are you talking about.
please stop posting like this.
These things are not even comparable.
you have one unit that got changed (two if you count overlord speed buff slightly), vs a whole expansion worth of changes.
what a stupid post, good god!
moo...for DRG
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
February 27 2013 20:43 GMT
#5165
On February 28 2013 05:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 05:07 opterown wrote:
On February 28 2013 02:55 wammyz wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:41 opterown wrote:
On February 24 2013 02:19 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How is DRG top 10 GM in HotS when Zerg is so awful???!

because zerg really isn't that awful :p it's not doing well, but top 16 is fairly reasonable for one of the better zergs around

Not awful but pretty damn bad. Very impressive to be that high as a Zerg

Also after checking all the fan clubs I can confirm this is by far the best one. Congratz on making such a sick contribution to such a great player :D

no worse (probably better) than terran after queen patch


the fuck are you taking about.
please stop posting like this.
These things are not even comparable.
you have one unit that got changed (two if you count overlord speed buff slightly), vs a whole expansion worth of changes.
what a stupid post, good god!


his point was that zergs are more common in the GM top 10 now than terrans were in the top 10 of WoL, not how many changes were made. right?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 27 2013 20:50 GMT
#5166
On February 28 2013 05:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 05:07 opterown wrote:
On February 28 2013 02:55 wammyz wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:41 opterown wrote:
On February 24 2013 02:19 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How is DRG top 10 GM in HotS when Zerg is so awful???!

because zerg really isn't that awful :p it's not doing well, but top 16 is fairly reasonable for one of the better zergs around

Not awful but pretty damn bad. Very impressive to be that high as a Zerg

Also after checking all the fan clubs I can confirm this is by far the best one. Congratz on making such a sick contribution to such a great player :D

no worse (probably better) than terran after queen patch


the fuck are you taking about.
please stop posting like this.
These things are not even comparable.
you have one unit that got changed (two if you count overlord speed buff slightly), vs a whole expansion worth of changes.
what a stupid post, good god!

that one change was a massive one, i'm not talking about the numbers of changes, but how weak each race was after the changes... chillax rofl

i really do believe zerg will adapt soon, and if they don't i will happily call for changes. but all broadcasted games s far are afairly even in terms of winrate...
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
wammyz
Profile Joined January 2013
90 Posts
February 27 2013 21:33 GMT
#5167
On February 28 2013 05:50 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 05:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On February 28 2013 05:07 opterown wrote:
On February 28 2013 02:55 wammyz wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:41 opterown wrote:
On February 24 2013 02:19 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How is DRG top 10 GM in HotS when Zerg is so awful???!

because zerg really isn't that awful :p it's not doing well, but top 16 is fairly reasonable for one of the better zergs around

Not awful but pretty damn bad. Very impressive to be that high as a Zerg

Also after checking all the fan clubs I can confirm this is by far the best one. Congratz on making such a sick contribution to such a great player :D

no worse (probably better) than terran after queen patch


the fuck are you taking about.
please stop posting like this.
These things are not even comparable.
you have one unit that got changed (two if you count overlord speed buff slightly), vs a whole expansion worth of changes.
what a stupid post, good god!

that one change was a massive one, i'm not talking about the numbers of changes, but how weak each race was after the changes... chillax rofl

i really do believe zerg will adapt soon, and if they don't i will happily call for changes. but all broadcasted games s far are afairly even in terms of winrate...

1. Queen change only had as big an impact as it did because Terrans were doing the same things over and over again (forced hellion plays) and were not adapting. When they did adapt the winrates went back to 50%. It was the metagame change into infestor heavy play that was killing Terran in the fall.

2. I believe he was being sarcastic or purposely over the top.

3. If you are going to use a fan club to tell the creator of the fanclub they are wrong then at least use proper grammar/spelling.
An Extremely Proud Bear Fanboy
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 27 2013 21:46 GMT
#5168
this fan club is so srs
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 21:59:08
February 27 2013 21:58 GMT
#5169
On February 28 2013 06:46 Dodgin wrote:
this fan club is so srs

I wish it would stop ;(

I just want to talk about DRG
#TheOneTrueDong
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#5170
i'll let you guys get back to it
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
February 27 2013 22:41 GMT
#5171
well that was obnoxious.
Let's get back to talking about DRG, then.

The IPTL match comes in about an hour.
I'm pretty hyped.

I hope DRG will get to play against life again.
moo...for DRG
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 03:21:00
March 01 2013 02:11 GMT
#5172
Is it going to be another month before we see DRG again???

If IPL6 is cancelled it may even be longer lol
#TheOneTrueDong
xNebulous
Profile Joined May 2012
United States142 Posts
March 01 2013 03:14 GMT
#5173


DRGGGGG
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
March 01 2013 03:28 GMT
#5174
On February 28 2013 06:33 wammyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 05:50 opterown wrote:
On February 28 2013 05:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On February 28 2013 05:07 opterown wrote:
On February 28 2013 02:55 wammyz wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:41 opterown wrote:
On February 24 2013 02:19 neoghaleon55 wrote:
How is DRG top 10 GM in HotS when Zerg is so awful???!

because zerg really isn't that awful :p it's not doing well, but top 16 is fairly reasonable for one of the better zergs around

Not awful but pretty damn bad. Very impressive to be that high as a Zerg

Also after checking all the fan clubs I can confirm this is by far the best one. Congratz on making such a sick contribution to such a great player :D

no worse (probably better) than terran after queen patch


the fuck are you taking about.
please stop posting like this.
These things are not even comparable.
you have one unit that got changed (two if you count overlord speed buff slightly), vs a whole expansion worth of changes.
what a stupid post, good god!

that one change was a massive one, i'm not talking about the numbers of changes, but how weak each race was after the changes... chillax rofl

i really do believe zerg will adapt soon, and if they don't i will happily call for changes. but all broadcasted games s far are afairly even in terms of winrate...

1. Queen change only had as big an impact as it did because Terrans were doing the same things over and over again (forced hellion plays) and were not adapting. When they did adapt the winrates went back to 50%. It was the metagame change into infestor heavy play that was killing Terran in the fall.

2. I believe he was being sarcastic or purposely over the top.

3. If you are going to use a fan club to tell the creator of the fanclub they are wrong then at least use proper grammar/spelling.


queen and overlord buff together changed the matchup very significantly because they came out after 2 years of WoL where everyone had refined builds and tvz was considered an even matchup by everyone. for pro gamers those small buffs changed everything, the best opener became unviable and zerg got "free ticket" to 3 base 80 drones and caused indirectly the explosion of gay gglord infestor style due to safer 4 and 6 queen openings and mass creep spread. zvp remained almost unchanged so the difference was very noticeable in tvz, and terran winrates are bad in tvz since then and we have bad zergs beating very good terrans all the time and every terran that wins a good tvz is considered a hero

in that sense yeah zerg is not at all worse than terran in wol, the difference is that hots builds are not refined at all so zergies have no idea about timings and correct reactions.

side note, I think the changes in the races are really uneven because zerg got almost only late game units and buffs and terran got 2 ridiculously good early-mid game units, that is more than stupid, even if late game zerg combos are very powerful their early game remained unchanged and terran/p just received a gazillion of new cheese and pressure options. stupid as hell
every race should have gotten some kind of early/mid/late game unit and some new spells/upgrades, instead of this P received retarded early and late game compositions, terran received only retarded early game compositions, and zerg received only retarded late game compositions.

/rant
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 01 2013 03:30 GMT
#5175
[image loading]
moo...for DRG
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 02 2013 15:32 GMT
#5176
sign me up! :D
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
S.o.L.
Profile Joined January 2013
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 06:44:25
March 03 2013 06:40 GMT
#5177
He is streaming! or trying to using gamecreds. I can't see anything thought tt
http://video.gamecreds.com/l4lmytgbwzc5/channel/MVPDRG
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
March 03 2013 06:55 GMT
#5178
If I'm reading it right, there's a total of 8 people watching 3 streams on the entire site. I don't think he's going to make any more money on Gamecreds than on Twitch.
S.o.L.
Profile Joined January 2013
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 06:58:13
March 03 2013 06:56 GMT
#5179
On March 03 2013 15:55 Severian wrote:
If I'm reading it right, there's a total of 8 people watching 3 streams on the entire site. I don't think he's going to make any more money on Gamecreds than on Twitch.

I don't know... 216 people watching Tails right now. Maybe Tails told DRG that it is better per viewer right now?
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
March 03 2013 06:58 GMT
#5180
Oh, it seems that the viewer numbers I was looking at aren't accurate. It shows 216 on the video itself but the page says he has had a peak of 4 viewers. Not sure if it says that for everyone.
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